L90D+ Issues

[achillez]

Ok I just got my L90D+ and I'm having some difficulty with it:

1) I find that it's really bright and turning down brightness has little affect. I can turn it down to 0 brightness and contrast, and at this point it's only just getting reasonable.

2) The bottom part of the screen seems to be brighter than the top. I've compared a black/white image at the bottom vs. top and at the bottom it's quite brighter. At lower brightness settings this is particularly obvious. This is annoying in WOW where the icons and what not are at the bottom.

3) The lettering in games seems to be really bright, i.e., light colors really stand out.

Anyone else have a L90D+? What settings do you use? By the way, I have a DVI connector and a ATI 9700 PRO. I haven't installed the L90D+ drivers, I'm not sure if that'll make a difference. I'm also using winxp

 

[infiniti029]

1) i guess u have more sensitive eyes than most. i have mine set at 50 and it's fine. i could prob go higher if i wanted to.

2) yes, this is a known problem. no real fix here. i don't get that problem, but i have small slight light leakage at the top most part of the screen.

3) lettering in games are fine for me.

 

[Error Macro]

1) Use the ATI advanced display settings Color tab, and turn down the gamma and brightness for Windows. I use 35 brightness and 50 contrast. DVI connection on a Radeon 9500 Pro. At first, I thought it was a little too bright, but I got used to it. My guess is that you're coming from a CRT like I was, and had it improperly set too dark, because it looked good. Read my post in another thread here: http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027271472&postcount=39

2) Adjust the height of the monitor to where this is more acceptable to you. You want the center of the screen about even with your eyes when you're looking at it. The low vertical viewing angles are causing this, and it is a minor annoyance, but ultimately no too bad.

3) I credit that to the excellent color reproduction and contrast on this panel.

 

[burningrave101]

1) Use the ATI advanced display settings Color tab, and turn down the gamma and brightness for Windows. I use 35 brightness and 50 contrast. DVI connection on a Radeon 9500 Pro. At first, I thought it was a little too bright, but I got used to it. My guess is that you're coming from a CRT like I was, and had it improperly set too dark, because it looked good. Read my post in another thread here: http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027271472&postcount=39

If your used to a CRT then the brightness level takes a while to get used to. Adjust the brightness level in your video card drivers under color settings. Its the best way to really tone down the brightness.

2) Adjust the height of the monitor to where this is more acceptable to you. You want the center of the screen about even with your eyes when you're looking at it. The low vertical viewing angles are causing this, and it is a minor annoyance, but ultimately no too bad.

You are suppost to position the LCD so that your eyes are level with the very top of the panel instead of the center of the panel.

 

[AMD_Gamer]

are youn a previous LCD user or first time?

this is my first LCD and im in love with it even if it did look strange its 100 times better than my old CRT so its hard for me to tell

 

[Cygnus_X1]

I had the same problems with my Viewsonic VP912B (which I eventually returned).
It was way too bright with any type of light colored background. I wonder if my
hard contact lenses magnified the brightness?

I tried adjusting the contrast and brightness, and I even used my ATI
utilities to adjust the gamma levels. Nothing worked right.
Any level that made lighter backgrounds look good would make everything
else look dark and grainy. A dark game like Doom 3 looked amazing, but something
with lighter backgrounds like Sacred was hard to play. I couldn't even read any
of the lighter colored text in that game.

I also wasn't too happy with the .294mm dot pitch that you get with a 19" LCD
running at 1280x1024. You can see the weird screen door effect.
I recently got a 17" IBM L170 LCD at work and the picture is perfect at 1280x1024.
Lower brightness, tighter dot pitch, really nice.

Lessons to learn are that higher brightness levels don't mean much of anything.
19" LCD's are in a bad position as far as dot pitch and resolution goes.
Until they fix that, it seems that either a 17" or 20.1" LCD is a better choice.
Going cold turkey from a CRT to a bright LCD is tough for some eyes.
I'll admit though, that Viewsonic was so nice that it's been hard getting used
to my old CRT again.

 

[achillez]

Anyone else play WOW here? I'm finding some severe color problems. The blasted lands for instance looks orange, except for the dark parts, which appear far too dark. It's almost like the entire colormap with the LCD is too extreme.

How about call of duty? I'm finding some of the dark maps are unplayable.

 

[sixandout]

I play wow, and don't notice any of the effects that you are noticing. The graphics look sharper compared to my crt, but my old crt was a 6 year old samsung. I guess if you can't adjust the video settings through the lcd or the computer you shouldn't settle for unuseable gameplay. Take it back.

 

[sixandout]

Oh just another quick question for you guys, not sure if it even matters or not. Are you guys using dvi cable or analog? If you are using the analog are you using the drivers for the lcd? Have any of you calibrated you lcd? I ask because I do some light photoediting, and use different color profiles for photo work, and every day use. I have a color spyder, i think that's wht they call it. Adjusting the display with that makes my lcd look very different. When I print pictures out though the photos look the same as when they were on the lcd. Sometimes I wonder if manufacturers want the display super bright so when you walk buy in a store you look at the brightest one and assume that one is the best. I know some tvs are like that. They are set up like that super bright assuming that if you do a side by side comparison in a store, you choose the one that looks better. But you should be able to adjust the display to how you like it, or those video controls aren't anything more than decorations.

 

[achillez]

Oh just another quick question for you guys, not sure if it even matters or not. Are you guys using dvi cable or analog? If you are using the analog are you using the drivers for the lcd? Have any of you calibrated you lcd? I ask because I do some light photoediting, and use different color profiles for photo work, and every day use. I have a color spyder, i think that's wht they call it. Adjusting the display with that makes my lcd look very different. When I print pictures out though the photos look the same as when they were on the lcd. Sometimes I wonder if manufacturers want the display super bright so when you walk buy in a store you look at the brightest one and assume that one is the best. I know some tvs are like that. They are set up like that super bright assuming that if you do a side by side comparison in a store, you choose the one that looks better. But you should be able to adjust the display to how you like it, or those video controls aren't anything more than decorations.

What's a color sypder do? I might want to try it on my system and see if the colors are off.

I'm using a DVI input and I finally got around to installing the LCD driver / colormap. It improved things somewhat, but what I really found that helped was the color options in my advanced color settings of my video card. Still though, I find that red / dark colors are really amplified. Almost like they are unnatural. I may be spoiled because my CRT is top notch, but I found that in call of duty on this LCD the graphics just look "fake". Whereas on my CRT they looked very deep and real. On WOW I found the red parts of the game to look quite extreme as well. The characters that have red+dark look particularly silly.

 

[RookieCAF]

I'm having no problems on the Samsung 710N I just bought, Everything looks fantastic, and way better than on either CRT I'd been using. COD looks fantastic, JOTR, and Half Life 2 as well.Is it possible your color calibration is off?

 

[sixandout]

http://www.colorvision.com/profis/profis_shortcut.jsp!!!!!!!GEU110-Spyder2
it's an optical sensor, you stick it on your lcd, and run through it's setup wizard. it's more for photo/video editing. i wouldn't buy one just to calibrate an lcd if you only play games. oh i think you only install the drivers for the lcd if you are using the analog "vga" cable. if you are using the dvi, then under device manager/monitor it should say plug and play monitor. when i ran the spyder on my crt i didn't have to change much. when i ran the spyder on my lcd i had to change the colors a lot, which they say is typical for lcds. it also adjusts your brightness, and other controls. then it makes it's own monitor profile which i can turn on and off. after adjusting the lcd the display seems weird, but you get use to it, because that is the way it is suppose to look. and the main reason i use it is for photoediting. oh and it's damn easy to setup using the spyder too. they aren't the only ones that make something like this. you can get a basic unit form others for just under a hundred i think

 

[achillez]

I'm having no problems on the Samsung 710N I just bought, Everything looks fantastic, and way better than on either CRT I'd been using. COD looks fantastic, JOTR, and Half Life 2 as well.Is it possible your color calibration is off?

Yah I suppose my colors could be way off but how do you tune them so they are correct? Should you have to tune them? If I'm finding that red is far too red, blue seems a bit too bright, and black seems too dark, what do I change?

 

[sixandout]

colors vary from monitor to monitor, and from manufacturere to manufacturer. are colors usually off. think some places that revieds the spyder sya that colors for lcds are usually off, and benefit the most from calibration. i for one didn't like the way the colors looked after calibration. i thought it looked worse. but i got use to it, and find that the display is actually more useful. pictures of fleshtones made people look kinda sick. it takes some getting use to after calibration