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Kyle's Thoughts...

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This was the first morning in about 2 years that I have awoken to find an NVIDIA based video card in my own system. But I must admit that the BFGTech 6800 Ultra OC has been a screamer in DOOM 3 as most of you already know as well as many other titles. I am glad to see competition in the 3D video card market for a change, as it has certainly been a while since we have seen such closely comparable products from ATI and NVIDIA.

While NVIDIA is pulling ahead in many of the DOOM 3 benchmarks you will be seeing, I want to take a moment and echo something that John Carmack said a couple weeks ago. Don't live and die by the benchmarks as they don't tell the whole story, and I think many of you could make a decision that could possibly not be totally right for you and your gaming habits by basing your buying decision on a narrow set of benchmarks. We have been striving to bring our readers more real-world gameplay evaluations in our content and we truly believe it is the way to go when forming an opinion.

That said, The Official DOOM 3 Hardware Guide does a solid job of outlining DOOM 3 performance in a real-world scenario and does not pigeon hole your gaming experience to a timed demo run that does not tell you about exactly what is important, and that is your experience when playing games.

Congratulations to ATI for igniting an industry for the last two years and making NVIDIA strive to do better. It is hard to think of world without a video card better than a GeForceFX 5800. ATI has a tremendously solid line of cards now and so does NVIDIA. When you look at the overall gaming experience both are bringing big guns to the table that will keep the hardcore gamers out there very happy. Just don’t let someone tell you what to buy because one had a bit better average framerate than the other. There is so much more to the picture now days as the 3dfx mentality of speed being king will likely do you more harm than good.
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Man, it's refreshing to see someone down the middle instead of all of the bashing that is going on in here, both products are great, you can't go wrong with either. Kudos to Kyle for a nice little write up!
 
While I'm appreciative of people doing their best to be unbiased and down the middle, the statement both cards are about the same is misleading [which is exactly why Kyle DIDN'T say that]. If they truly were about the same, I'd have gone to my good friend Two-Face and asked him to flip his coin about which card I should get.
 
creedAMD said:
Man, it's refreshing to see someone down the middle instead of all of the bashing that is going on in here, both products are great, you can't go wrong with either. Kudos to Kyle for a nice little write up!
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yeah, is nice to see an independent opinion

with all the bashing in here, i rarely visit the video card forums
a person trying to buy a card ends up being more confused

well that was my case
 
Definitely kudos to Kyle on this one. I think he definitely said what needed to be said. Maybe now people can stop bashing, flaming, arguing, etc. about these cards. I found it very difficult to make a solid decision on my video card because of this forum.
 
A FUCKING MEN

I've been saying it for a long time now. They're BOTH great cards. I prefer one, but they're BOTH good.
 
I love my Sapphire x800xt and have bought two 6800gts and built coworkers computers from them.

I have seen DoomIII run with both the Nvidia and Ati cards and they look nearly identical to me in image quality and fps.

Both are good cards. I dont care to get involved in all the debate for two reasons;

one, it isnt worth it
two, Im already awaiting the next generation of cards from both manufacturers.

DoomIII is great, but I look forward to games that double and triple the polys....and its safe to say either top of the line cards from ATI and Nvidia wont handle that well atm.

phas3d
 
I'm not as ready to suck Kyle's dick as the rest of you about him saying what he said. He said in summary don't buy a GeForce 6800 just because it screams in Doom 3. What a stupid fucking statemeng IMHO. If you want to buy a 6800 to kick ass in Doom 3 do it. If they are so close to each other than why do you have to say that you may regret your purchase.... Buy whichever card performs well in the games you freakin play. If that's Doom 3 then I say buy the damn 6800 because it pounds ATi. There are other games that if you play you should buy an ATi. Why the hell do you have to make a sniveling remark about ATi just because some ppl may buy NVidia based on Doom3. I own a 9800XT and am waiting for a 6800 GT to come in to replace my FX5900XT. The 9800XT fits in a SFF which meant that the ATi was the best card for that box, and I use that box to game 75% of the time. My other system will play Doom 3, CS, and FarCry which will house a 6800. Why is it necessary for the [H] to rehash the past jesus fuckin christ that whole article on the front page was the most homosexual fanboi sounding bullshit i've ever read on this site GG [H].
 
seehaw said:
Why is it necessary for the [H] to rehash the past jesus fuckin christ that whole article on the front page was the most homosexual fanboi sounding bullshit i've ever read on this site GG [H].
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wow...maybe you need to read it again, all he said in there was truth

he's trying to tell you don't buy a card because of one set of benchmarks, look at your other needs as well. obviously if you're only going to be gaming then buy the card that performs best for your games.
 
The performance between these cards are so similar that i'll rather focus on which will give me the better value, than 5fps difference. Maybe some people get a boner from having another 300 points in 3dmark than others, but i certainly don't. I really don't understand why some people put so much emotional attachments to videocards.
 
I think Kyle feels bad for making ATi look like shit...I admit that some people took the whole D3 benchmarks a little too seriously and I think it's cool that Kyle realizes how big of an impact his D3 benchmarks had and he feels responsible...
 
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