Klipsch Promedia 2.1 problems

[Bluesun311]

I got a set of wireless 2.1 Promedias delivered on Friday. I ordered direct from Klipsch. Set has a power switch on the back. The instructions warned me it would pop if I flipped it on or off... wasn't too happy to see that; the manual also states this won't damage your speakers. I've opted to keep them powered on full time for now. But it bothers me they do not have a power mute relay.

Sound is not bad for the money at all, because really the wireless is not necessary and they are $140 (cheap) without it and $200 with (not as cheap at ALL and not worth it if the units are the same otherwise). The mids and tweets are... warming up I think? Excellent imaging at low volume. The sub needs some burn-in or just isn't that great even at low volume but it's not bad--just a little hollow so far. I just really haven't got to test them much.

I've been out of the audio "loop" for a while. I used to build mobile audio systems using good equipment like Focal and Dynaudio. I was into using line-drivers for high voltage clean signal; I was also a concert percussionist and I know good sound. I would recommend these speakers for low to mid volume but again, the "pop" on power on/off bothers me and makes me wonder about the longevity issue. I put a 3 year warranty through Squaretrade on them, but I may send them back because right now I have to run them 24/7 in order to avoid the DC thump or "pop" at power on/off. If you use the switch its a loud thump no matter the volume, if you cut the power with a battery backup or surge protector they "pop" high pitched good and loud. Super annoying. I suppose it's not a problem to run them 24/7? I'm going to ask Klipsch about it today and I'll report back.

Edit: Yeah these are going back. If you even touch the back of the sub they pop thump and there is no way to turn them off without it happening. People must just leave them on 24/7. I'm paying return shipping on these because Klipsch doesn't even pay return shipping on defective items. Not even if a DOA item needs repair under warranty, according to 2 separate Klipsch reps I spoke with. What a bullshit company Klipsch turned into. If you are going to bother with these, skip the wireless, it's a joke, and order from Amazon. Never ever order anything direct from Klipsch. One of their reps claimed that the set only consumes 1 watt of power even while playing music... another admitted that while it was a "disconcerting sound" and impossible to avoid when powering on or off the unit, it was harmless. I seriously doubt it's harmless. Probably part of the reason these don't last very long according to just about everyone who's bought them in the last 4-5 years.

 

[Venomous]

If you like Focal and Dynaudio, I suggest replacing your setup with nearfield desktop monitors. Hell even yamaha and jbl make some fine nearfield systems.

 

[Bluesun311]

If you like Focal and Dynaudio, I suggest replacing your setup with nearfield desktop monitors. Hell even yamaha and jbl make some fine nearfield systems.

Oh... great. Now I'm really in trouble. I should have just kept the damn Klipsch's.



But seriously, they just didn't sound as good as I want... I don't want volume I want imaging and staging accuracy, transparency and good tonal balance... you can't get this stuff cheap. And 140 dollars for a 2.1 system is too cheap to be true. Decent bass is cheap but the rest of the harmonic spectrum is much more difficult to reproduce correctly...

Sigh... I've ordered a set of Focal XS 2.1's and a set of Blue Sky eXo2's. It's a FACEOFF!

Klipsch Killers (for way more money )

I predict the Blue Sky set will win.

 

[Bluesun311]

Klipsch is pissed that I've been posting on their facebook

What I've come up with is that Klipsch was sold to Audiovox in 2011 and the quality took a tumble. The old products which have not had their designs changed or components switched out are probably as good as they ever were. Obviously the Promedias are not the same as design changes to the sets have been noticed. The power switch disappeared, came back.

Avoid this product unless you are willing to leave them on 24/7. The manual even states that they will pop/thump every time you turn them off or on and that it will not harm the speakers. What they don't tell you is how frikkin loud it is. So the way I had everything set up they were going off all the time as my computer wakes itself up and goes back to sleep throughout the day. No problems with my source... because the comp can turn itself on and off without making a pop sound as long as the speakers stay on in between. If I have my master control UPS turn the speakers off after a delay, by themselves, then every sleep/wake causes a pop/thump. This is not the case with the Altec Lansing set I have. They only pop or thump when you turn other things off with them at the same time, like a box fan.

Just to put it in perspective: One of Audiovox's biggest brands is Jensen. This would be like Kia buying Ferrari. Nothing good will come of this.
Edit: To be specific it's Voxx International corp.

 

[Bluesun311]

To be fair and thorough I went by bestbuy earlier today and picked up a set of the regular promedia 2.1s without the wireless to try to see if I can eliminate the popping noise with them. These came in a nice box instead of plain cardboard. Again, never order from Klipsch directly. They use an online fulfillment company called shopatron that makes it look like you will get charged no tax while it is pending on your cc, but then when they ship the item they go ahead and charge you tax. I made two orders from Klipsch through shopatron, one was the plain 2.1 set which I cancelled to order the wireless set instead. Took them 12 days to credit me back for my cancelled order even though it was never shipped. The charge sat pending for 12 days... Not normal.

The wireless set should be avoided. It uses a USB transmitter to send signal to the subwoofer via line of site. It's functional for a small desktop setup but the advantage of eliminating one wire from computer to sub is not worth 60 dollars. The wires from the sub to the satellites are of course still necessary. An aside: How is THX involved in any way with 2.1 (stereo with a low pass filter for the sub)? There is no decoding going on. Why is it printed with large badges on all the speakers. Money. Advertising on my speakers--no thanks.

So I'm about to set up the non-wireless version. I needed something to compare the Blue Sky eXo2.1 set
to because the Focal xs 2.1 just looks and smells too much like Apple overpriced stuff and I decided to pass on it. The blue sky set is probably just as much of a warranty gamble as the klipschs so I'll be putting an extended warranty on them if they work out. The klipschs seem a lot more normal looking than the blue sky set and I don't expect the eXo 2.1s to be a whole lot different as far as power distribution is concerned so I may just have to let go of my dream wherein the sound system turns on and off automatically and quietly along with the computer. This is easily doable with a proper preamp/amp/passive monitoring system but then we're not even anywhere near promedia territory anymore. If the blu sky's don't just absolutely destroy the Klipsch promedia set I'll be super disappointed but I will report it honestly.

 

[Venomous]

To be fair and thorough I went by bestbuy earlier today and picked up a set of the regular promedia 2.1s without the wireless to try to see if I can eliminate the popping noise with them. These came in a nice box instead of plain cardboard. Again, never order from Klipsch directly. They use an online fulfillment company called shopatron that makes it look like you will get charged no tax while it is pending on your cc, but then when they ship the item they go ahead and charge you tax. I made two orders from Klipsch through shopatron, one was the plain 2.1 set which I cancelled to order the wireless set instead. Took them 12 days to credit me back for my cancelled order even though it was never shipped. The charge sat pending for 12 days... Not normal.

The wireless set should be avoided. It uses a USB transmitter to send signal to the subwoofer via line of site. It's functional for a small desktop setup but the advantage of eliminating one wire from computer to sub is not worth 60 dollars. The wires from the sub to the satellites are of course still necessary. An aside: How is THX involved in any way with 2.1 (stereo with a low pass filter for the sub)? There is no decoding going on. Why is it printed with large badges on all the speakers. Money. Advertising on my speakers--no thanks.

So I'm about to set up the non-wireless version. I needed something to compare the Blue Sky eXo2.1 set
to because the Focal xs 2.1 just looks and smells too much like Apple overpriced stuff and I decided to pass on it. The blue sky set is probably just as much of a warranty gamble as the klipschs so I'll be putting an extended warranty on them if they work out. The klipschs seem a lot more normal looking than the blue sky set and I don't expect the eXo 2.1s to be a whole lot different as far as power distribution is concerned so I may just have to let go of my dream wherein the sound system turns on and off automatically and quietly along with the computer. This is easily doable with a proper preamp/amp/passive monitoring system but then we're not even anywhere near promedia territory anymore. If the blu sky's don't just absolutely destroy the Klipsch promedia set I'll be super disappointed but I will report it honestly.

For what you want, you should of gone with the Focals and you know I'm right. It's ok, baby steps right?

 

[Bluesun311]

OK......................

We have some progress (sort of) and some further investigation needs to be done. I would strongly advise against using the USB dongle and/or wireless set of ProMedias. That is where the giant thump is coming from--the USB transmitter. Why? Because my motherboard's USB ports are always powered... which is not a good thing if you cut the power to the ProMedia system but leave the source (the USB transmitter) on. follow me? The non-wireless Promedia's do not thump loudly when you cut the power to them, just a little blip.

Edit: I originally posted a buncha invalid opinions about how bad the regular promedias were here but it turned out my sound out was clipping without me realizing it. Google play has some serious default amplitude.

For what you want, you should of gone with the Focals and you know I'm right. It's ok, baby steps right?

I don't know man, they have nothing but a 1/8" input. The Blue Sky set is much more sophisticated on paper. Anyway, I'm not trying to spend my kids college fund and there has to be a limit somewhere. I'm an old fan of Focal but $600 for computer speakers is out of bounds when I'm just gonna be messing around listening to bad recordings of people that have been dead for a long time

 

[UMASS]

I can say that Focal product is usually "top-notch" Years ago I auditioned a pair of Focal towers (I forget the SKU#) They had a beautiful Light Cherry finish & Silver metal grills, aside from the wonderful aesthetics, they sounded so damn good! The problem was their price $1900.00 for the pair. I got a pair of NHT ST4's instead for $1000.00 My wife would have had my head on a pike if I came home with the Focal's.

Bluesun: You should really consider buying an AMP & working your way-up from there.

Here's a quick scenario for you here:

http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Silv...r-50-WPC.asp?gclid=CJ-Sn8SB770CFaVQOgodPjwA7Q

http://sewelldirect.com/Silverback-...e-Copper-259-Strand-Count-6-ft-Terminated.asp

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_735PMON8B/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-800-Black.html

You can find the Definitive ProMonitor 800's for around $220.00 for the pair. Wicked small front print & they sound wonderful once broken in (4.5" driver & 1" Aluminum Dome Tweeter)

Sewell T-AMP @ $65.95 (50 WPC 8 Ohms)
Sewell Speaker Wire @ $9.95 x2=$19.90
Definitive Tech PM 800's @ $220.00

Total Cost $305.85

Or if you really want a "boxed" computer system then checkout Definitive Technology "Incline" computer speakers. I went to Best Buy/Magnolia & auditioned them. They sounded unbelievable for the $399.00 price tag. Do yourself a favor & check them out @ BB/Magnolia Sound. You can add a sub later as these have a quick sub-out.

Worry about the sub later. I have never heard of "Blue Sky" myself, but if you look @ the DT Inclines (2-year warranty) they won't disappoint!

YouTube Review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkOCFkyuiE

Good Luck!

 

[B00nie]

Get Genelec active monitors. Even the old models that you can find second hand are awesome.

 

[Venomous]

I know you feel $600-2000 is expensive, however if you sit down and do the math, you will cover this purchase for the lifetime of your audio needs. It takes some balls to pull the trigger on speakers at this level but it's worth the look again.

While everyone else replaces speakers at a 5 yr level and the price point they sell this crap at on the PC side, a good speaker investment will never keep you locked in to an ecosystem.

Now you could skip the near fields and go right to reference focal,dynaudio,paradigm, etc right off the bat and be done. This allows you to bring on a low cost avr where you have complete control of the source, how it's connected and reaching the proper power levels while sounding damn near perfect. Avr's can be picked up for less than $150 while providing more options than you can shake a stick at.

I feel guys are really getting ripped off by Logitech and Klipsch with this junk they tout as PC Multimedia Speakers... $399-600 each set... People generally buy at least 3 sets over 20 yrs... You just paid for those high quality reference speakers much much earlier without any of the fears of the system crapping out.

 

[Bluesun311]

I'm with you but these ProMedia 2.1s were 140 dollars. They don't seem built to last though. They seem built specifically not to last.

The Focal Xs2.1 is a wireless system and they want a lot of money for the USB sound card. To me wireless and speakers shouldn't go in sane sentence.

Blue Sky isn't an old company. But they are American owned. The eXo2 2.1 ($499) system is about as big as I have room for so maybe separate amp would be too hard to incorporate. I'll give it some thought.

I definitely appreciate all the suggestions and I will be taking a look at all of them.

 

[heflys20]

Ever thought of some Swans?

I'm thinking of getting a set of M200Mk III's whenever I'm capable.

I've heard good things about the M50W set as well, but it's a 2.1 setup.

http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/swan-multimedia

Blue Sky isn't an old company. But they are American owned. The eXo2 2.1 ($499) system is about as big as I have room for so maybe separate amp would be too hard to incorporate. I'll give it some thought.

Funny. I was just looking at those the other day. Seem nice.

 

[atarione]

i really see no reason for anyone interested in audio quality to follow down the Multimedia speaker route personally.

depending on space / budget requirements any number of more productive paths can be chosen

powered Studio Monitors (listen first as many of these can be quite flat ..due to their intended purpose and not much fun to listen to.. but some are quite nice sounding

for me I have enjoyed the Mackie MR5 and Tannoy Reveal 501's greatly)

a pair of MR5 MKIII's should come in near about $300~

http://www.amazon.com/Mackie-Series-MR5mk3-Powered-Monitor/dp/B00EA1U1X6/ref=dp_ob_title_ce


other options new/ used / vintage : Stereo Receivers / Integrated amplifiers / Power Amps (plus preamp). and passive bookshelf speakers (or towers depending on room and requirements)

costs can be from nearly zero to the sky

most days I listen to a late 80s Kenwood KR-V106R (100wpc) and Monitor Audio Silver S1 speakers (paid $20 for the receiver and $11.25 for the speakers.. bought this gear used obviously).


for the more space constrained T-amps ($20 and up) plus passive speakers (ideally high efficiency probably) can be a great option also.

Right now due to insane heat wave in SoCal (my weather station thing says high so far today 109F ..blah) i am doing my best to keep heat emissions in my home office (small bedroom down) so I have powered down the stereo receiver in favor of my small SMSL SA-S3 T-amp with a Pair of Realistic Minimus 77 speakers quite pleased with the sound quality this is providing.


here is a photo of my desk I ain't paid $500 total for the audio equipment pictured (not including dac(s) and mic however).




so as you can see... I kinda have a thing for the vintage audio equipment however...

 

[UMASS]

I'm with you but these ProMedia 2.1s were 140 dollars. They don't seem built to last though. They seem built specifically not to last.

The Focal Xs2.1 is a wireless system and they want a lot of money for the USB sound card. To me wireless and speakers shouldn't go in sane sentence.

Blue Sky isn't an old company. But they are American owned. The eXo2 2.1 ($499) system is about as big as I have room for so maybe separate amp would be too hard to incorporate. I'll give it some thought.

I definitely appreciate all the suggestions and I will be taking a look at all of them.

Blue: I had a pair of the newer Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 @ paid below $100.00 for them on sale @ Best Buy a few years back. They sounded pretty good overall considering they are a boxed computer system. The sub wasn't tight @ all IMHO. They died a little over 2 years of usage (subwoofer) These are disposable speakers. I would take Venomous advice & "pony-up" now or be prepared to throw away the Pro Media's when they fail.

Again...The Definitive Technology Incline's are so damn sweet for $399.99 These are bi-amped. Meaning they have 20WPC per driver for a total of 80 Watts. If you're looking for a one solution set-up out of the box, these are really that good!

http://www.definitivetech.com/products/incline

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/definit...lack/1903004.p?id=1219066875626&skuId=1903004

Take some time & listen to them @ BB/Magnolia & do some research. Definitive Technology makes really solid product IMHO.

 

[Bluesun311]

@UMASS I'll check those speaks out at BestBuy on Monday. They seem nice, but it's hard for me to imagine getting rid of the floor sub because I have my desk in a corner spot and this room loves a sub in the corner. I mean the acoustics in here are just really good for it. It's not 1-note bass resonance either, it's surprisingly detailed while listening to something springy like the upright bass playing on Diana Krall "Live in Paris"

But I do agree with whoever said the ProMedia bass isn't tight. It's definitely not a horrible sub, but it's being done with a port and that's just gonna cause some flubbing all around the response. They didn't make it sealed for a bunch of reasons but I was definitely on the lookout for a sealed sub with an amp hanging off it. The back of the eXo system looks proper. Heatsinks aplenty. I have high hopes for the system, and the Klipsch's are going back to BestBuy but I wanted to see if they popped as loudly as the wireless ones. $140 is cheap, it's true, but I've seen people trying to support Klipsch with comments like "I've owned 11 pairs of ProMedias" and what they are really saying is "They don't last". Klipsch just isn't what it used to be. On the high end, yes the Magnepans and other expensive crazy shit they make is still excellent, but on the midrange they changed their philosophy pretty clearly towards economies of scale.

Edit: no heatsinks on the exo2 2.1... not sure which system I was thinking of but they are beginning to run together. Still I think they're worth a shot. Probably need to use some risers to get a sweetspot out of the satellites.

 

[Zepher]

I've been using a pair of Alesis M1 Active MK2 speakers for the past 13 or so years and they sound excellent. they were slightly used when I got them.

 

[Venomous]

Ever thought of some Swans?

I'm thinking of getting a set of M200Mk III's whenever I'm capable.

I've heard good things about the M50W set as well, but it's a 2.1 setup.

http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/swan-multimedia

I owned a pair of M50s that were absolute shit in the quality dept. I bought those after using some M10s on my laptop. Swans are great speakers quality wise say up to 2012. From that point something's been going on with their manf with a lot of failures, my M50s being one of them. So I just got a refund from the store I purchased and said screw it , I'm running reference level speakers from here on out.

That's why sourcing swans have been so hard because of the issues they can't seem to address.

 

[UMASS]

Blue: I can say without a doubt, the Definitive Technology Incline's are that good! I already invested $400.00+ for a pair a Boston Acoustics M25 bookshelf speakers. It's ready out of the box. Built-in DAC via USB, Volume on the right speaker, Bi-Polar (really makes a serious difference) Small footprint, they are semi-tall @ 11+ inches.

If I didn't buy the BA M25's, I would have purchased this system. As I mentioned, it has a sub-out when you're ready. Too be honest, I don't think the Incline's need a sub in a smaller room. In the last 60 days I went way overboard in terms of computer audio.

Specs:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_745D3020/NAD-D-3020.html?showAll=N&search=d3020&skipvs=T

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_065M25/Boston-Acoustics-M25.html?showAll=N&search=m25&skipvs=T

http://www.accessories4less.com/mak...o-7-10-175-watt-powered-subwoofer-rose/1.html

I didn't buy anything from Crutchfield as they sell everything @ list price. Not to mention I bought a few items (cables etc.) from Monoprice.com (best product for the money)

Please audition the DT Incline's & chime back!

 

[heflys20]

I owned a pair of M50s that were absolute shit in the quality dept. I bought those after using some M10s on my laptop. Swans are great speakers quality wise say up to 2012. From that point something's been going on with their manf with a lot of failures, my M50s being one of them. So I just got a refund from the store I purchased and said screw it , I'm running reference level speakers from here on out.

That's why sourcing swans have been so hard because of the issues they can't seem to address.

That sucks. I have been researching them extensively and mostly find rave reviews on their products without too much mention of failures; though they appear occasionally. Most of the reviews come from foreign countries (such as Australia) where the warranty is better, though. I was wondering why they were no longer as readily available.

The folks at The Audio Insider (now owned by Chane Music) seem very helpful though. If I do decide to take the plunge.

Will definitely keep an eye on this. This review is what really got me hyped:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/swans2/1.html


I also got my eyes on these:

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/speakers/products/airmotiv-5s

 

[B00nie]

 

[UMASS]

Boonie: Never heard of that brand. I looked them up. Made in Finland no less. Do they sound good?

http://www.genelec.com/products/g-four/

 

[UMASS]

If that's Genelec G series, then their prices are way over the top. G1 goes for $395.00 per speaker G4 is $1,595.00 per speaker. I'm sure there are some people on these boards with a last name like "Rockefeller" but that's out of my league for prices.

 

[B00nie]

Boonie: Never heard of that brand. I looked them up. Made in Finland no less. Do they sound good?

http://www.genelec.com/products/g-four/

They're widely regarded as the best professional near field / control monitors. They cost a lot, yes, but the quality makes up for it.

I don't like the smallest models though. You need to spend around 3000 bucks a pair minimum IMO but naturally even the smaller models sound great but lack bottom end extension.

 

[Bluesun311]

Well, honestly both of these expensive nearfield solutions are out of my pricerange regardless of Venemous's longevity point (valid though it is), but I have no doubt they are excellent.

I'm sort of taking a gamble on the Blue Sky eXo2 2.1, which I ordered from Sweetwater.com since they decided to offer me a nice promotion on them. If they aren't worth more than $250 dollars or so to my ears, I'll pack them back up. There is nowhere to demo this system in my region. So, all they have to do is sound like they are worth half what they cost to me, and that pretty much means I've already made up my mind if they don't show up damaged or malfunctioning I'm keeping them. Basically they need to sound as good as the Klipsch's, since Klipsch pissed me off

I think if you take a look at Blue Sky you'll agree that they at least look the part. I can't see what components are in these speakers and amplifiers (seems like 3 separate amps and a class d for the sub with low THD) and I wouldn't be able to tell you much if I could. Some capacitors... some resistors and transistors... I don't know... but iirc there's a separate crossover in each satellite and the sub is sealed with a vented cone. Looks like a solid design and I'm really looking forward to setting them up tomorrow (monday). I can't imagine not putting a separate sub in my corner if a $3000 pair of active monitors is missing extension on the bottom end... These Klipschs are too boomy, tbh, but they get low even though it's slightly dirty. They really aren't bad to listen to for me, to be humbly honest, but my beef is that they do not seem built to last (and people are turning out to say they don't) and Klipsch and their shitty distributor (shopatron) have a pretty flippant attitude. Again, Klipsch is now owned by Audiovox (Voxx International) which also owns a lot of other common brands that are older than the parent corporation, like RCA. The guys pulling the strings on what components go in Klipsch speakers are no longer particularly interested in "keeping the sound" so much as "keeping more money".

The people at Blue Sky are, like Klipsch once was, on the other end of that spectrum: looking for the sweetspot.

 

[heflys20]

I'd be surprised if the Exo2 sounds anything near to the Klipsch. They should completely blow them out of the water, if what I've read is accurate. IMHO, sounding just as good would be unacceptable for the price.

 

[UMASS]

They're widely regarded as the best professional near field / control monitors. They cost a lot, yes, but the quality makes up for it.

I don't like the smallest models though. You need to spend around 3000 bucks a pair minimum IMO but naturally even the smaller models sound great but lack bottom end extension.

In reality, how many people can afford to spend $3,000 on a pair of self-powered bookshelf speakers? Why even bother posting this nonsense on these boards? Most people (like me) are Middle-Americans. Would it be nice? I'm sure, but completely unrealistic!

 

[Bluesun311]

Oh good lord. Blue Sky is for real. Blown out of the water is about right. These are the sweetest and most detailed little speakers I've ever had in a home system by far. The bass is clean and tight. The midbass is right there. Everything is where it should be, staging seems wider than the space I have for them. Always amazes me what good engineering can do. If I hadn't known better it would have seemed like the Klipsch 2.1 system was about as good as a small system can get. The eXo2's sound like full-range speakers with large cones. They aren't overly boomy like the ProMedias, but the subbass is there and you can dial it in more if you want. What I was hoping for was mid extension and power handling, and good highs. Blue Sky delivered.

Well, actually UPS did. Apparently they decided to toss the box from the truck at every stop. It had been torn on one corner pretty bad and retaped, relabeled. A packing slip had been removed and a label placed over it. I actually called Sweetwater sound to make sure it wasn't some sort of mistake and I had gotten someone's return. The manager was super cool about it, said I didn't have to open it if I didn't want to, but to take a look and if I wasn't comfortable he'd pay for return shipping. So I tore open the carton, and the guys at Sweetwater had opened the box to put in a bunch of stuff like magazines and candy. Pretty easy to tell these speakers were not touched after being packed in the factory. Very very solid factory packing. Lots of styrofoam. Guy said they might have been about to ship that box to someone and then got a cancellation, which could explain the missing packing slip with the label over it. He was really professional about it. I would definitely recommend Sweetwater.com for purchases like this but they do NOT usually pay for return shipping on returns unless there is a problem like a defective or damaged item. So be sure you really want heavy items from them or be prepared to pay freight. Looks like they don't do restocking fees. Might buy a Martin guitar from them--some bastard stole mine out of my car couple weeks ago.

 

[John721]

Yeah, Sweetwater is very, very nice. Glad to hear the blue sky is doing well.

 

[Venomous]

My only issue with sweetwater is there mass employee turn over. Once you get a sweetwater account you get cold calls from them stalking you about future purchases.

So are you going to take pics of these speakers or what Bluesun?

 

[Bluesun311]

My only issue with sweetwater is there mass employee turn over. Once you get a sweetwater account you get cold calls from them stalking you about future purchases.

So are you going to take pics of these speakers or what Bluesun?

Sure thing. They are gorgeous. I was worried they would be too big but nope. They are really tiny but they SOUND big. The sub is ridiculously heavy for its size. It's a shock when you go to pick it up. I'm going to start a new thread for them, though. They don't deserve to get buried in a whiny thread about Klipsch.