PlayfulPhoenix
Limp Gawd
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Then you've got ventilation holes on pretty much every side though, which is too much IMO. Aesthetically, I mean. If you want to put size over every other consideration, then sure. Punch it full of holes. It's not what I'd want to do, though.Unless you add some perforations to the front panel
Keep the angled face but decrease its depth, close the side openings if necessary, but add the circular vents as on the sides and top...
Necere's assessment is essentially the same as our own. We do not want to remove the front panel given aesthetic considerations, and we can't really make it shallower without significantly impacting airflow.
I personally wouldn't mind the extra 10mm for more features.
10mm seems significant because we're comparing with what we have before, but if you just show the specs to someone who's never heard of Nova, they' won't be like "that seems... a little bigger than it should be". What they might be like is "Oh cool, it can accommodate feature XX!"
While I was very much opposed to adding 10mm to the Ncase for limited extended hardware support, I do see the advantages in this case's case.
In reality, it's an extremely minor difference that you'd never notice. A 3% change in volume is basically nothing; the impression of physical size will be basically the same. The obsession with volume measurements at this point is a numbers game for people to brag about, and nothing more.
Ah, but unfortunately that numbers game is important to a lot of people, and could very well influence buying decisions. But I agree in principle that the difference would be almost indistinguishable beyond the stats on paper.
It's worth noting that we'd probably want to add closer to 15mm (1.5cm) to more broadly support front-mounted hardware with most configurations. But that assumes that we'd decide it's worth adding, period.
After re-reading PP's post above, I have a major concerns about what you say that additional 10m will enable in terms of front-mounted radiator support.
First off, the GPU card lengths announced are in fact only the PCB lengths, and you need to add around 2-3mm to find the card length from back of the PCI bracket to the tip of the card. So, a 10.5" card is actually around 269-270mm.
With the added 10mm, total clearance (end-to-end inside the frame) will be 324mm.
The measurements I specified have tildes to indicate that they aren't precise down to the exact mm. Aiboh has yet to take a caliper to Nova and the various components But in general we agree with your assessment that the card is 2-3mm longer than the stated length, as a result of the bracket.
With the 269mm for the 10.5" card, you're left with 55mm "total" clearance.
Technically, a 25mm-thick fan and a 29mm-thick rad can fit, as in using the "teleportation" spell
Not really - a partial list of the AIO's that would fit in that clearance would include Corsair's H40/H55/H60/H110i GT/H100i, Enermax's Liqtech 240, Deep Cool's Captain 240, Cooler Master's Seidon 240M/Nepton 240M/Glacer 240L, Silverstone's TD02-E... Granted, a few of these are just 1-2cm shy of 55cm, but some have more room, and that's why we'd want to add closer to 15mm if we were to add anything at all
But, how those will go in and out practically, is the big question.
You can install the card first, rad second, and then push in the fan(s) in that tight spot, but then screwing the fan(s) on the rad will basically not be possible. Suppose you fit all those in, if you need to take the graphics card out, or install another in, you would have to remove everything and install them back in.
What I'm trying to say is 10mm will not be sufficient for that option to be practical. More like 20-25mm would be needed.
I think you're overthinking this a bit - the tab cutout would make it easy to insert the card at a diagonal, straighten it out, and then push it into the PCI slot. Aiboh feels similarly, as he's had to do as such with a non-reference card that all but touches the front fan.
So, the order would be fan(s)-on-rad, rad-in-case, card(s)-in-case.
Is it ideal? No. But is it feasible? Sure.
If I were to install a ATX PSU in this case, there are already very nice options:
1) Install 240mm rad + fans on the bottom and use the front for either fan(s) and/or drive(s).
2) Install a thick 140mm or 120mm rad on the front-top, and use the front-bottom and bottom of the case for whatever.
3) In case one wants to do AIO cooling for the GPU too, one can install a 240mm rad on the bottom AND a 140/120mm rad on the front-top.
As a result, I don't think that the additional 10mm will be worth it.
#1 would preclude the bottom motherboard PCI slot at a minimum, and you would actually lose the ability to mount anything on front-bottom, since the radiator and fans would be in the way.
For #2/3, the front only has 120mm mounts, so you couldn't use 140mm radiators or fans. And a GPU AIO would have to be no taller than a standard PCI slot if you wanted to put a radiator and fans at the bottom - otherwise, there isn't enough clearance.
Anyway, awesome feedback from everyone! We really appreciate it And for those that haven't already, I encourage everyone to participate in the straw poll.