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Keystone patch panel vs modular vs?

If I am doing a small install I will buy a patch block and bracket and however many jacks I need.
Otherwise I use a fixed configuration panel (12, 24, 48 ports) with 110 terminations.

Panduit jacks are considered modular, they fit only into their own brand of panels and faceplate. Leviton jacks, however, are keystone and fit into many other brands of panels and faceplates.
 
12, not rack mount (no space for a rack) and what is an 89B bracket (is it 89D?). As far as I can tell, it is to wall mount the patch panel vs rack mount?

But...what is the connection with modular vs keystone patch panels?
 
89B and 89D are 2 styles of 66 block/patch block brackets. They are used for wall mounting.

This is the one you'd want to use with a patch block:
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Nice, thanks Jeff, I was having a hard time figuring out how to secure a patch panel without a rack.

So a modular patch panel allows you to add/replace keystone jacks as required.
Sorry, I'm still confused. A jack = a keystone. Correct?

What is so bad about modular patch panels then?

Otherwise I use a fixed configuration panel (12, 24, 48 ports) with 110 terminations.
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Modular panels also use 110 termination. I'm obviously not getting it:)
 
For your purposes, jack = keystone. There is a standard size of sorts that all keystone jacks fit into.

A modular panel allows you to buy 3 jacks if you only need 3 ports, and if you add another 3 drops you buy 3 more jacks and snap them into the panel.
I have no issues using either, just depends on the install.
 
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What is so bad about modular patch panels then?
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Nothing really. It just depends on the size of the job and what the termination requirements are. If you need lots of terminations then standard patch panels are cheaper. If you need a few mixed terminations then a keystone panel can work.
 
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Thanks everyone. Hmm I do like modular as then I can replace parts I might break.
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6 months ago i would have told you a patch panel would never go bad unless you physically damaged it...

just came across one where the top 2 ports didn't work at all, still have no idea why...

plus usually the modular ones are a little bit better to work on after the fact, you can pop a keystone out and troubleshoot it without having to mess around with the rest of the panel... but i prefer hinged patch panels and proper cable routing, mitigates those problems quite a bit...
 
Would this be any good http://www.digitus.info/en/products...patch-panel-shielded-dn-91608sd/section/prof/
or this https://www.f-u-w.com/en/network-te...el-Cat-6A-8-Port-Desktop-black-RAL-9005.html#

Looks like a patch panel in an enclosure going under the general name of 'desktop patch panel'. However, a cat6 patch panel is NOT good voor cat6a?
I've found some strange thing though. The items come with a ground cable? What is it for (don't say grounding lol:p). You can clearly see this cable in te second link.
 
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the ground cable is for grounding....

lol for shielded/grounded cable you can terminate the shields/grounds to a ground bar on the patch panel


i think you're probably putting wayy too much thought in to this...



no room for this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10516&cs_id=1051602&p_id=8624&seq=1&format=2

and this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10514&cs_id=1051401&p_id=7253&seq=1&format=2
???

standard, good, and easy to use, you can buy 12 porters as well, but room for expansion is always a plus...
 
Nah the space is really tight. Would anyone happen to know whether cat6a keystones are the same as cat6 keystones? Or is there also a difference?

I don't have a ground bar me thinks. Do I just ground it to the electricity ground?
 
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Nah the space is really tight. Would anyone happen to know whether cat6a keystones are the same as cat6 keystones? Or is there also a difference?

I don't have a ground bar me thinks. Do I just ground it to the electricity ground?
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different spec, there is a difference, why cat6a?
 
Agree cables are different spec. No doubt about that as I can even find the spec. But I see many places sell Ca6 keystones to be used with Cat6a cables. Cat6a (mostly) has a different wire gauge to set it apart from Cat5e and Cat6. Although Panduit has Cat6a cable with 26 AWG for runs up to 70m.

What is the difference in keystones? The space between the 'things' were you insert the wire?

Main reason is future proofness. I hope to run 10 gigabit over the cables to my server some time and use on of them to transport 4k over Cat6a.
 
I like keystone panels as you can run your phone lines, cable TV and other stuff through them. It also makes it easier to add stuff over time. Not sure how easy it is to do that with regular patch panels if you don't have easy access to the back. (ex: a 4 post rack that is mostly filled)

Though if you already have all your runs planned then I'd probably go with a 48 port or w/e patch panel, then a small keystone one if you have misc stuff you want to patch too. That's probably what I'd do if I was to do it over again. I only have 2 phone jacks and 1 cable TV jack and the rest is all ethernet, so probably would have been better off with a regular ethernet panel and a small 12 port keystone one for the misc stuff.
 
What is a w/e panel? I only need 8 cables at most plus 4 for expansion. I am mostly worried about the need to ground it or not now. Anyone know why or when this is required?
 
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I used to work at a site with microwave and a rather pricey Motorola radio

the rack, patch panels, equipment was all grounded via its own cable down to the bus bar per Motorolas requirements

ive forgotten more than I knew about grounding at this point :p

but the coatings on everything really means you might as well ground them all separate
 
I've learned more than I ever knew lol. I'n not native English so w/e meant nothing to me haha.

Here, at work, each rack is also grounded by a separate cable going to a copper bar (5 cm wide) running the height of each cabinet. The rack door is grounded separately to that bar.
All rack ground cables run to a bigger copper bar from which a huge (bigger) ground cable that goes to ... (I'm guessing a ground pin in the earth)

But for me, since I am not using shielded, one less worry.
 
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