Ivy Bridge-E in Q3 2013

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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/...idge-E_extreme_CPUs_to_launch_in_Q3_2013.html
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/57511/na...will-have-core-i7-4960x-4930k-4820k-03292013/

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New microarchitecture will bring several new features, such as higher performance due to more efficient architecture, new x86 extensions, support for DDR3-1866 memory, and official support for PCI Express 3.0 interface. Remaining features will not change.
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Well, this news makes me happy. Just have to wait a little more longer. Unfortunately, Haswell-E (2011) won't be out for a very long time.
 
- Support for 8Gb DIMMs instead of 4Gb
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I guess they mean official support since 8GB dimms have been used on x79 systems from the time they first became available. I mean users have 64GB systems with 8 slots don't they?
 
I guess this means I go for a 3820 to go into the new EVGA X79 SLI that was given to me... can't sit on it and wait till November :-P
 
The new features, are they CPU features or chipset features? Some of them sound chipset oriented, does that mean new motherboards too?

Will Haswell-E be compatible with the 2011 socket/boards (current/upcoming)???
 
BTW, I would have liked to see this increase to official support for 16 GB dimms. Since I believe it is now possible to produce a 16GB unbufffered DDR3 DIMM with the existence of 8GBit ddr3 chips.
 
Syphon Filter said:
The new features, are they CPU features or chipset features? Some of them sound chipset oriented, does that mean new motherboards too?

Will Haswell-E be compatible with the 2011 socket/boards (current/upcoming)???
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Almost certainly not, would be my guess. Especially given that the VRM is moving onto the cpu's die.
 
hope they dont use the same TIM method they used with IB
 
That kinda sucks.

Having said that, is it even worth worrying about socket/chipset/motherboard compatibility???

In the past I took the approach to upgrade either the GPU or the "platform" (mobo/cpu/ram) every other year.

That way every 12months one major aspect of the system will be updated as required depending on which had become the most limiting factor in that time.

However this was some time ago so I don't know if the same approach could be taken today.
 
Syphon Filter said:
That kinda sucks.

Having said that, is it even worth worrying about socket/chipset/motherboard compatibility???

In the past I took the approach to upgrade either the GPU or the "platform" (mobo/cpu/ram) every other year.

That way every 12months one major aspect of the system will be updated as required depending on which had become the most limiting factor in that time.

However this was some time ago so I don't know if the same approach could be taken today.
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I like to build my computers to be good for at least 3 years given the way software nowadays handles new processor features (or lack thereof). I'm sure if I went with IB-E now, I don't see a need for Haswell-E (unless by some miracle Intel released it tomorrow then yeah I'll buy it).

The only compelling upgrade if someone was on SB or IVB 2500/2600 non-K and K, 3750/3770 non-K/K, 3820, or 3930K is just change your graphics card when new ones become available in the next few years. The processor will still run the games and software released between now and 3 to 5 years from now. I'm sure of it especially when we start getting PS4 and Xbox 720 console ports.

And, it's going to take quite a bit of time for software developers to even catch up and utilize new processor instruction features like Float 16 or TSX instructions in Haswell. Heck, game developers for PCs seem to be quicker to adapt to new graphics technologies than CPU technologies. As long as the processor is 2.5GHz or 3.0GHz from the last two years maximum (2010 to 2012), I'm sure we don't need to upgrade to a newer processor anytime soon.

I still want Ivy Bridge-E just for the sheer fact it's going to last me quite a long time. Software are still not fully multi-threaded and for what I do on my computer on a day-to-day basis, having a strong multi-core/multi-threaded processor is more important and has to last me for a long time for cost reasons alone.

We shouldn't have to worry about socket and platform compatibility given that no matter what the platform is-- 6-, 7-, or 8-series chipsets-- or the processor that's on them, the biggest limiting factor is the software. It will always be the software to me.

When Office Professional 2016 is released, that i7 2500 is still going to run it. When Mass Effect 5 or Call of Duty Black Ops 4 Halo Edition is released, that i7 3930K is still going to run it. Just upgrade the video card. Sure, there may be a 1% to 10% framerate discrepancy between each processor gen, but it's so variable and random that it entirely depends on the game being benchmarked and the video card being used.

There should be a compelling feature in a new processor that software developers can exploit and utilize in their software or games that would warrant an upgrade from an older or current processor to a new one. However, i don't see that coming anytime soon.
 
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