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It's 16x1 allright

:eek: :eek: :eek:

If this is legit.....well, all I can say is I'm glad I've remained an nVidia loyalist. I'm glad to support a team of engineers that can do this. :D
 
Originally posted by Jon Rista
If this is legit.....well, all I can say is I'm glad I've remained an nVidia loyalist.
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yes, congrats man - you just missed two years of better gameplay! glad to have the wise people around again. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, I'm just a loyalist to whoever has the best particular card whenever I'm gonna buy. It seems the way to go... :)
 
Originally posted by Finsta
Yeah, they are and I want to see them.
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should have saved them :( they were screenshots of UT2k4 with some very impressive Anti-Aliasing (4x) but using an algorithm that was pretty sweet.
 
Impressive. I hope this is true (there are some questions about the validity at this point) and I hope that ATi can match it. We don't need another year with a dominant card and an also ran. We need good old fashioned price wars.
 
Originally posted by Jon Rista
:eek: :eek: :eek:

If this is legit.....well, all I can say is I'm glad I've remained an nVidia loyalist. I'm glad to support a team of engineers that can do this. :D
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We still have to wait to see if they can "do this" as well as they've done "8x1" on their current cards.

If they do, I'm going to start laughing again; but I'll also be mad at nVidia. I don't want an ATI only game, nVidia has long been my favorite but they're just not keeping up anymore. :(
 
Originally posted by wizzackr
yes, congrats man - you just missed two years of better gameplay! glad to have the wise people around again. :rolleyes:
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Very true. There is nothing to be proud of for sticking to nVidia for 2 years when a signif. better product was out.

Like it was said earlier in this thread, I am proud to be a loyalist of integrity (cheats ehem) and good engineering. I am partial to no company.

All companies are out to get your money. As a small time business man (high school lol) selling computers, I know that my goals are to make as much money off the consumer in the long run as possible. ATI and nVidia, like many others, have found that bending over backwards for the consumer makes you more in the long run. Hence the last 2 years ATI profits have been up, and nVidia's have been down. Now lets see if nVidia can regain our trust this round like they did in TNT days.
 
That's the best way to be pakotlar. Don't follow a particular brand, but do follow quality.
 
Screenshots still appear to be up here, but they are large and you may need to wait for them to load. The third shot is from Painkiller.

We still have to wait to see if they can "do this" as well as they've done "8x1" on their current cards.
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I believe the multitexturing fillrate would be significantly above the single texturing fillrate if this card were truly an 8x2 in the same way that the NV30 is 4x2. But it's not, so if the fillrate numbers are true the architecture is almost certainly using one texture sampling unit per pixel pipe rather than two.

Just in case the thread gets pulled because someone tries to sue:
With 3dmark2001 give results of 7010 Mpixels/s for single texturing and 7234 Mpixels/s for multi texturing ( pretty impressive don't? ).The PS performance is boosted a lot, at least 2.5x faster and even got to 5x faster.The AA used in the pics is RGMSAA at 4x, the maximum AF ( on this drivers, 56.55 ) was 8x but I think that we will see 16x.
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Apparently the AA algorithgm there is not supersampling, but rotated grid multisampling. Looks very nice, at least in the limited examples here. Edges are extremely clean.

PS performance needs to be at least 2.5x of NV35, so hopefully that's not an exaggeration.
 
something seems different in those pictures but i can't put my finger on what it is exactly.
 
something seems different in those pictures but i can't put my finger on what it is exactly.
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I agree, it's why I thought they were supersampled originally, since that antialiases textures. Since it is apparently rotated grid multisampling it's possible there's a very light texture blur filter being applied.

You have to admit the edges look really clean though. ;)
 
Originally posted by leukotriene
<snip>.....Apparently the AA algorithgm there is not supersampling, but rotated grid multisampling. Looks very nice, at least in the limited examples here. Edges are extremely clean. ........<snip>
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WOOO HOOOO!! Finally some 3Dfx tech in the nVidia line!

If it is true , I may end my long boycott of nVidia!

Brent
 
I you read some more, some of the B3d guys thinks its some advanced form of quincux, there is some texture blurring compared to a ss of the same settings of a 9800pro another guy put up
 
Originally posted by Jon Rista
:eek: :eek: :eek:

If this is legit.....well, all I can say is I'm glad I've remained an nVidia loyalist. I'm glad to support a team of engineers that can do this. :D
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Why be loyal? The nVidias morale is hardly ground breaking in the PC industry. So why go with an inferior video card if you know it´s inferior?

And I still don´t see what would make the NV40 a faster or better video card than the R420. So I would hold my horses until the hard facts is here
 
^^I'm With him lol:p Man this is gonna be funny if R420 comes out and not only does it again wipe the floor with Anything nvidia has to offer but again offers Much better IQ.
And yet again all these people jump the gun an buy into nvidias Drastically inflated Paper specs:p
 
You say poor ATI but we haven't seen benchmarks on thiers yet, they could be waiting and BAM.

Knock nvidia outta the water.

You never know, don't pass judgement ti'll we see tests on the r420.

DaveM
 
Originally posted by @trapine
^^I'm With him lol:p Man this is gonna be funny if R420 comes out and not only does it again wipe the floor with Anything nvidia has to offer but again offers Much better IQ.
And yet again all these people jump the gun an buy into nvidias Drastically inflated Paper specs:p
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Yes wouldn´t it be sad.

A guy buys the 5800 ULTRA. A guy that must have the latest and fastest.

The 5800 ULTRA doesn´t deliver and a guy then hope nVidia learned their lesson with the 5900 ULTRA. Although better still second best.

And then he jumps the gun and get the NV40 just to see the R420 fly far far ahead.

Being screwed 3 times over can´t be fun :D

I mean it´s okay getting a R420 and it may not be as fast as the NV40 but then you had good reasons to believe it should deliver. Since ATI has been the top dog for several years now.

But what is the excuse for being mad about getting a NV40 if it don´t deliver R420 performance? Would that be surprising considering the old generations of FX cards? Which too had superior specs in many ways to the radeons

I may very well get a NV40 or the R420 but I have to see what they are good for first. Which means I will have to wait some months to see if nVidia is still on their "optimization" scheme and still sacrifices IQ for speed. Since those are high end video cards 2nd best just don´t cut it. If I pay premium I want premium
 
Originally posted by DaveM
You say poor ATI but we haven't seen benchmarks on thiers yet, they could be waiting and BAM.

Knock nvidia outta the water.

You never know, don't pass judgement ti'll we see tests on the r420.

DaveM
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Or better yet, don't pass judgement until we see tests on BOTH cards. The current numbers out for the nv40 are a bit suspect, to say the least. I'll wait for a head-to-head comparison from a reviewer I trust, not Random Forum Guy #38267 with his famous Inside Information.
 
Originally posted by LabRat
Or better yet, don't pass judgement until we see tests on BOTH cards. The current numbers out for the nv40 are a bit suspect, to say the least. I'll wait for a head-to-head comparison from a reviewer I trust, not Random Forum Guy #38267 with his famous Inside Information.
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If we wait for R420 tests we got NV40 tests since NV40 will probably arrive before the R420
 
Ya, just how the hell did that happen. I thought ATI was weeks ahead of Nvidia with their cards. But now it seems Nvidia will beat them out the gate. Did ATI go back to the drawing boards as it were?
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Ya, just how the hell did that happen. I thought ATI was weeks ahead of Nvidia with their cards. But now it seems Nvidia will beat them out the gate. Did ATI go back to the drawing boards as it were?
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No they are keeping quite and then deliver the bomb. I don´t know. They have been quite all the time so it´s nothing unusual.
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Ya, just how the hell did that happen. I thought ATI was weeks ahead of Nvidia with their cards. But now it seems Nvidia will beat them out the gate. Did ATI go back to the drawing boards as it were?
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no, ATI just hasen't let anything "leak" out :rolleyes: :p for all we know ATI could be done, and are trying to decide what art to put on the box.

Or mabye they just want to wait for nvidia to release there card, and then a day latter "wham" ATI releases there's and it ends up killing nvidias card.

Wouldn't that put a big frown on all those Nvidia fans faces ;)
 
^^^ Probably not. I'm one of those rare people who used to use nVidia that realized ATI was better. Most nVidia fans still think nVidia owns. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Ya, just how the hell did that happen. I thought ATI was weeks ahead of Nvidia with their cards. But now it seems Nvidia will beat them out the gate. Did ATI go back to the drawing boards as it were?
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Until I see cards on the shelf of my local Best Buy, I'll say neither card has been released. These "launches" mean jack shit if I can't buy it.
 
Originally posted by LabRat
Until I see cards on the shelf of my local Best Buy, I'll say neither card has been released. These "launches" mean jack shit if I can't buy it.
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Nvidia paper launches a month before ATI paper launches. It still boils down to the same exact thing.
 
Originally posted by Vagrant Zero
Nvidia paper launches a month before ATI paper launches. It still boils down to the same exact thing.
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actually Nvidia paper launches period. ATI just releases, I recall there was a huge discusion about this quite some time ago, much in the same way that Intel paper launches, and AMD just releases.

(note sure what fourm that was in, may have been sharkys, here or rage3d)
 
uhh, amd just releases, right, apparently no one can remember a little thing called the hammer chip right and I don't see the fx 53 on store shelves anywhere yet. plus the ee was the first paper launch that intel has had in a while. and ati launched the 256 mb version of the 9800 almost a month before it hit stores. all tech companies paper launch, it is a fact of life, deal with it.
 
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