Is this worth $2000?

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EarthBrain

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Someone is willing to sell this system to me for $2000. Is it worth it?
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Processor – Intel Core 2 Extreme quad core QX9650 Yorkfield 3.0GHz (retail $999.00)

RAM – CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (retail $200.00)

Main Board – EVGA NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI (retail $219.00)

Graphics Cards – 2x PALiT GeForce 8800GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 in SLI (retail $400.00)

Network Card - Killer NIC M1 Gaming Network Card – 10/100/1000Mbps (retail $230.00)

Hard drive (1) - Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD3201ABYS 320GB 7200 RPM (retail $80.00)

Hard drive (2) - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 (retail $180.00)

Hard drive (3) - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 (retail $180.00)

Optical Drive (1) - LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner (retail $150.00)

Optical Drive (2) - LG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe (retail $35.00)

Case - Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case with Side Panel Window (retail $140.00)

Keyboard - RAZER Lycosa USB Standard Gaming Keyboard (retail $85.00)

Mouse - RAZER USB Laser Lachesis Gaming Mouse (retail $80.00)

Monitor – 22” LCD gaming monitor (retail $200.00)
 
KillerNIC? Seriously?

Also, why bother with more than 1 Raptor? The only place it will really make much difference is loading games/booting OS. I would maybe recommend one for your OS/App partition and just get a 1TB drive for storage.

Also keep in mind you'll need to be using a 64bit OS to make use of all that memory.


Edit: I'm clearly stupid, didn't realize this was prebuilt. It's a solid price for the parts, yes.
 
Yeah, I never would need that network card because I think it is useless for me. I was surprise to see how much it actually cost retail.

Anyway, the guy would not part out so I have to buy it as a whole. I still don't know if it is worth it to buy or if I can use $2000 and buy my own stuffs that is much better.

That CPU is what got me into thinking that it is a fairly decent deal. The rest is just blahhhh.
 
EarthBrain said:
Yeah, I never would need that network card because I think it is useless for me. I was surprise to see how much it actually cost retail.

Anyway, the guy would not part out so I have to buy it as a whole. I still don't know if it is worth it to buy or if I can use $2000 and buy my own stuffs that is much better.

That CPU is what got me into thinking that it is a fairly decent deal. The rest is just blahhhh.
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You can always buy it and then part it out yourself if you think you can turn a profit.
 
CRXican said:
pretty good deal

I don't see the PSU listed though
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It is included as well as the HFS for the CPU.

Here is a picture of it:

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Doesn't seem all that great to me.. except for the CPU. There are cards faster than the 8800gt for less now. Also, having 2x2gb would be better than 4x1gb, as well as an Intel-based mobo. There are also way newer harddrives (WD6400AAKS and the 300gb Velociraptor) too. The Killer NIC would just be a waste since you don't need it, and the included peripherals (kb, mouse, monitor) might not suit your taste. Overall, I guess I'm just trying to say that you can build a better system with that $2K.
 
I'd buy it, sell one raptor and both GT's and Killer nic and buy a 1tb, hd4870 or gtx260.

edit: or like above, build one yourself for 2g's.
the cpu is nice, but you can buy something cheaper and overclock it.

To give you an idea, look below. Rough, ten minute build just to give you a general idea of what you can get for that price.
Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model iHAS220-08 - Retail
Item #: N82E16827106265 $29.99

1 LIAN LI PC-60BPLUSII Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811112100
-$20.00 Instant
$149.99
$129.99

2 Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EACS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136151
$259.98
($129.99 each)

1 SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824001268
-$30.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$299.99
$269.99

1 EVGA 01G-P3-1280-AR GeForce GTX 280 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130365
-$15.00 Instant
$40.00 Mail-in Rebate
$454.99
$439.99

1 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006
-$50.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$179.99
$129.99

1 Microsoft SideWinder K7A-00004S Black 9 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Gaming Mouse - OEM
Item #: N82E16826105093
-$8.00 Instant
$59.99
$51.99

1 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231166
-$5.00 Instant
$94.99
$89.99

1 EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813188024
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$219.99

1 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115041
$319.99

Subtotal: $1,941.89
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EarthBrain said:
So you guys don't think it is a good deal?
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Find out what power supply it has. Also, ask why he bought two Raptors. Was it in a RAID 0 setup? In addition, is there an OS included.

But right now, that setup doesn't look like too good of deal.
 
Thanks for the advice. Let me ask him.

It is weird because I was leaning toward building my own system with ATI graphics card...preferably the ATI 4870X2 but now this deal comes up and I am somewhat torn if I should take the plunge.
 
Personally, I like building my own computer so that I understand where and how my computer works from start till it has died or been given away (particularly useful for overclocking purposes and expunging parts that are defective or have a history of glitching).
 
you could sell the 2 8800GT's and use the 300 you saved to buy an X2
 
On second thought, that PC might not be a good deal at $1700 since one can get this build for not much more:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU - $320
DFI Lanparty DK X38-T2R Intel X38 Motherboard - $185
G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 1000 RAM - $68
2 x Sapphire 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E Video Card - $320 ($160 each, for Crossfire setup)
Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $80
Samsung SH-222F 22X DVD±R SATA DVD Burner - $25
Lite-On DH-4O1S-08 4x Blu-ray DVD Reader - $100
Corsair 750TX 750W PSU - $104
Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP ATX Case - $78
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle HSF - $35 & Retention Bracket - $7
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 OEM - $80
Samsung 2443BWX 24" DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $360
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Total: $1762 plus tax and shipping

Key differences between my build and the prebuilt rig:
- Bigger monitor
- Faster video card
- Slightly slower hard drive
- Better HSF
 
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RADEoN said:
you could sell the 2 8800GT's and use the 300 you saved to buy an X2
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Actually, I would have to sell a lot of the components.

For instance:

1. I have to sell the 22" LCD monitor because I have already pre-order the BenQ 22" HD 1080p monitor.

2. I have to sell the network card since I have no use for it. I cannot believe it cost $230 retail. How the heck am I going to sell it and who would buy it.....he he he...

3. I have to sell the graphics cards and get myself the ATI 4870X2. Unfortunately, it cannot do crossfire with this system. Not many people would buy those card either since the ATI's card has better value/performance.

4. I would rather have better RAMs but I guess I would keep them for now.

Decisions....decisions....

My other main concern is quietness. I want my system to be very quiet. I don't know what type of HSF he has for the CPU and how noisy it is. Also, I have no idea how noisy the 2 graphics card are since I will have to deal with them until I can get a better quieter graphic card. I hope the ATI 4870X2 is less noisy than the 2 nvidia cards.
 
EarthBrain said:
My other main concern is quietness. I want my system to be very quiet. I don't know what type of HSF he has for the CPU and how noisy it is. Also, I have no idea how noisy the 2 graphics card are since I will have to deal with them until I can get a better quieter graphic card. I hope the ATI 4870X2 is less noisy than the 2 nvidia cards.
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From the picture you provided, it looks like that PC has the Zalman CNPS-9700 HSF. Not a very quiet HSF.
 
Danny Bui said:
On second thought, that PC might not be a good deal at $1700 since one can get this build for not much more:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU - $320
DFI Lanparty DK X38-T2R Intel X38 Motherboard - $185
G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 1000 RAM - $68
2 x Sapphire 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E Video Card - $320 ($160 each, for Crossfire setup)
Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $80
Samsung SH-222F 22X DVD±R SATA DVD Burner - $25
Lite-On DH-4O1S-08 4x Blu-ray DVD Reader - $100
Corsair 750TX 750W PSU - $104
Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP ATX Case - $78
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle HSF - $35 & Retention Bracket - $7
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 OEM - $80
Samsung 2443BWX 24" DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $360
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Total: $1762 plus tax and shipping

Key differences between my build and the prebuilt rig:
- Bigger monitor
- Faster video card
- Slightly slower hard drive
- Better HSF
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I'll compare, this is what I see with your build vs the OP's build:

-Not an extreme processor and it's slower, that 9650 will go for at least 600 used
>780i vs x38, prefrence
>More memory, good, but memory is dirt cheap
>ATI video cards, good, but not earth shattering
-AAKS, good drive for the money, but not near the value of two raptors, two raptors can fetch AAKS value used easily so a swap for TWO AAKS at no cost is possible
-No killernic, whatever you say, the killernic is a great card, i'd buy his used right now
-No HD-DVD, not really an issue, but just sayin
>Can't comment on the PSU because I'm not aware of the OP's PSU
-Crappier case
-HSF is not better in IMO, plus, the OP's heatsink is twice the price, used value u can buy one of these if you wanted with no investment
+24" monitor, better
-No keyboard or any perepherals


Really, out of that list, you have one thing better, 7 things missing or crappier, and 4 things decent or swappable at no investment cost
 
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Danny Bui said:
On second thought, that PC might not be a good deal at $1700 since one can get this build for not much more:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU - $320
DFI Lanparty DK X38-T2R Intel X38 Motherboard - $185
G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 1000 RAM - $68
2 x Sapphire 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E Video Card - $320 ($160 each, for Crossfire setup)
Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $80
Samsung SH-222F 22X DVD±R SATA DVD Burner - $25
Lite-On DH-4O1S-08 4x Blu-ray DVD Reader - $100
Corsair 750TX 750W PSU - $104
Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP ATX Case - $78
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle HSF - $35 & Retention Bracket - $7
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 OEM - $80
Samsung 2443BWX 24" DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $360
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Total: $1762 plus tax and shipping

Key differences between my build and the prebuilt rig:
- Bigger monitor
- Faster video card
- Slightly slower hard drive
- Better HSF
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Usually tax (I am in California so tax is applied to newegg) and shipping would add quite a few dollars to that amount.
He is willing to sell the system to me for $1,700 cash. Of course these are used products and not brand new if I had bought them at newegg.
 
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EarthBrain said:
Usually tax (I am in California so tax is applied to newegg) and shipping would add quite a few dollars to that amount.
He is willing to sell the system to me for $1,700 cash. Of course these are used products and not brand new if I had bought them at newegg.
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Then again, you don't have to sell the monitor or ram (if you want 8 GB) or the NIC or the graphics cards AND you can stick with ATI cards with the x38 motherboard.

Without have to buy the monitor, Danny's setup is 20% cheaper in listed price. Which lowers shipping and tax considerably as well.

Also, as you mentioned, all these are going to be new. Also, you get a larger single hard drive, which I find more convenient than 3 separate drives.
 
Just talked to him some more and he stated that the power supply is an Antec 1000 watts.

The CPU cooler is the ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

He is including the Vista 32-bit OS.

He also stated that he upgraded all the fans to 2-ball bearing fans as oppose to the default fans for longer lasting life.
 
Ockie said:
I'll compare, this is what I see with your build vs the OP's build:

-Not an extreme processor and it's slower, that 9650 will go for at least 600 used
>780i vs x38, prefrence
>More memory, good, but memory is dirt cheap
>ATI video cards, good, but not earth shattering
-AAKS, good drive for the money, but not near the value of two raptors, two raptors can fetch AAKS value used easily so a swap for TWO AAKS at no cost is possible
-No killernic, whatever you say, the killernic is a great card, i'd buy his used right now
-No HD-DVD, not really an issue, but just sayin
>Can't comment on the PSU because I'm not aware of the OP's PSU
-Crappier case
-HSF is not better in IMO, plus, the OP's heatsink is twice the price, used value u can buy one of these if you wanted with no investment
+24" monitor, better
-No keyboard or any perepherals


Really, out of that list, you have one thing better, 7 things missing or crappier, and 4 things decent or swappable at no investment cost
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While I disagree that the CM690 is a crappier case than the Antec 900 (They're roughly the same quality IMO), the Killer NIC and 2 x 150GB VelociRaptor drives do add more value than the $1700 asking price for the prebuilt rig. So with that in mind, if the OP wants to buy that rig, got no complaints from me. Just saying that there's an alternative..
 
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