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ben chi(f4)

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Data processing (data being written to hard drives) Also, this will be going up into the air.
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
No budget
3) Where do you live?
NJ
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. Please be very specific.
The whole computer
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
None
6) Will you be overclocking?
No
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
None
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
As soon as it gets approved
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.
I'm thinking Raid0
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license?
Yes


So, the moral of the story is that I have to have a small boxed machine to take up as little space as possible but be able to process data with pretty decent throughput.

Now, here is my build.. I'm contemplating increasing the processor but I was a little worried about heat... but we'll see. I'm going to be having 2 of the 512 SSD drives in there as well, for some reason I wasn't able to update the quantity.

Again, as I'm not paying for this and someone else is footing the bill and they don't care about money, any upgrades to this build or recommendations would be appreciated.

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you don't need the PSU, 300 watt it has is fine.

I would go with Q9400 over E8400.
 
Ok, I changed the processor to q9400 and put in the 300w ps. Also, if I could have more than two hard drives in there that would be awesome too.

Are the 1tb SSDs out yet :eek:
 
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You probably want SATA600, which isn't quite out yet. Go for a dedicated RAID card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

ben chi(f4) said:
... Also, this will be going up into the air. ...
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huh? :confused:
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I'm going to get a little bit more crazy and I'm going to add a raid controller in here to add more SSD drives.
 
the Lian-li mini-ITX case is a bit cheaper, and larger, you could probably modify some more disks into it, might be worth a look

depending on what you're actually doing, I wouldn't go with a quad, go with something that can run basically passive, so that the vibration doesn't shred up the cooling fan and risk your system's life as a result

the atom or ion platform might actually be a solid consideration, again, it really depends on what you're doing, and I can't really say either way which is a better move unless you've got a bit more info for us (if you're under NDA or similar, guess we can't help a whole lot there)
 
ben chi(f4) said:
Although that video is pretty awesome, I have to worry about size to due to it having to fit on a plane.
It's going up in the air to record data.
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Oh, its going on a plane! thats what you meant! Sorry, I didn't notice that bit of info anywhere in the OP, lol. Vibration? get a nice seat cushion for it, lol.

Anyhow, the video link wasn't a suggestion for you to build something similar, but rather, what could be done with an external raid controller card. Basically, it was to show how much throughput you could get from running SSDs in RAID0 with a dedicated card rather than onboard. IIRC, the onboard solutions will cap out around 600MB/s, and that may or may not be enough for you. Thats typically 3x 120GB+ SSDs in RAID0.

/me wonders about a quadcore laptop (aka desktop replacement)... have you looked into these?
 
No, I haven't looked into the laptop route, but that would limit us to the amount of disk space being used during flight. I need to have close to 1tb of space. So, without adding a video card I thought of adding the raid controller to add more HD and have better read/write speed.
 
ben chi(f4) said:
No, I haven't looked into the laptop route, but that would limit us to the amount of disk space being used during flight. I need to have close to 1tb of space. So, without adding a video card I thought of adding the raid controller to add more HD and have better read/write speed.
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Some of the desktop replacement laptops can be fitted out with two 500GB HDD for 1TB of HDD space.
 
Danny Bui said:
Some of the desktop replacement laptops can be fitted out with two 500GB HDD for 1TB of HDD space.
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Danny,
I get that. The requirement though is to have the fastest possible data transfer rate, so I suggested SSD drives and put together this machine. I'm going to see if we can get one purchased and run benchmarks on it.

The bad part of all this is that I'm not going to be able to post any pictures of the build :eek:

If you see any holes in my build please let me know.
I'll keep you all posted though.
 
1TB of space w/ SSDs would mean 4x 256GB SSDs; 3 SSDs would already saturate the bandwidth of the onboard controllers. :(

You can find a quadcore laptop with 3 HDDs, and swap them out for SSDs. ;)


EDIT: googled quadcore 4 drive raid0 and this is what came up...

PC Microworks
Black-Hawk XR5 17 Inch Super Notebook
Configured price: $8153.00
Core™2 Extreme QX9650 Quad Core (3.0GHz/45nm/1333MHz/12MB)
12288MB Ultra Speed DDR3 1333MHz Extreme Performance Memory
250GB MLC Solid State Performance Drive 200MB/s Read | 160MB/s Write
250GB MLC Solid State Performance Drive 200MB/s Read | 160MB/s Write
250GB MLC Solid State Performance Drive 200MB/s Read | 160MB/s Write
RAID 0 -- Extreme Performance -- Requires 2 or 3 Drives
Dual Layer 2X Blu-Ray Disc Reader + Writer / DVD & CD Burner
nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M 1024MB OpenGL 2.1 Workstation Card

... and when the 512GB SSDs are out, replace those 250GB models. ;)
 
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enginurd,

Nice set up. Now, on my setup, couldn't I just add a RAID controller to not saturate the bandwidth by using the onboard controller? Wouldn't this be a better solution than using a laptop?
 
Yup, you definitely could, and yes, it would give you greater bandwidth than the laptop could provide. As far as being a better solution? I don't know. I don't know if you need more bandwidth than the 500MB/s thats provided by onboard RAID solutions. I don't know if a desktop would perform well in a plane without any anti-vibration measures. I don't know if a laptop would be better suited for this job or not. Since you have a pretty open budget, get both, and have both run the data, and see which one works best for your application.
 
enginurd said:
Yup, you definitely could, and yes, it would give you greater bandwidth than the laptop could provide. As far as being a better solution? I don't know. I don't know if you need more bandwidth than the 500MB/s thats provided by onboard RAID solutions. I don't know if a desktop would perform well in a plane without any anti-vibration measures. I don't know if a laptop would be better suited for this job or not. Since you have a pretty open budget, get both, and have both run the data, and see which one works best for your application.
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That's why I'm going to get SSD drives.
 
obobski said:
you mean in like 5 days?
just wait the five-six days sheesh

and I don't think he needs Core 2 Extreme :p
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heh, whenever. doesn't matter to me.

i chose whatever quadcore they had... not my system, was just an example of what he could get... notice not even a link provided. :p tried not to use too much time configuring/searching -- just needed an example of a quadcore laptop with more than 2 drives in RAID0. ;)
 
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