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tl;dr its not ever, its never over, its just changing
no reason why a tablet can't be used for general purpose computing.... see: x86 Windows 8 tablets, Android tablets
Why must this subject surface every week?
Oh and watching people hold up a tablet to take a picture is the most retarded thing ever... well ok maybe not ever but it ranks up there!
LOL, I would love to see someone try to do HD media production on something like that and then let it render.
Multifunction my ass.
Tablets really are just media consumption devices meant for Facebook and Angry Birds.
Granted that Win 8 does bring some other options to the table, but still, the primary limiting factor is the touch screen.
What's that you say? You can buy a keyboard and touchpad mouse for a tablet?
Well, if one needs those things to do what they want on a tablet, why not just buy a laptop?
You know, it's almost like we don't even need tablets at all!
lulz @ the techno-hipsters trying to justify tablets for anything serious.
The "literal form factor of PC"s (not sure what that is supposed to mean) is certainly not declining. It may be that temporarily because of the world economy people are cutting back on their PC hardware budgets--but I've seen no indication that *fewer people* are using PCs now than has ever been the case.
Comparing cell phone sales to PC sales, which is what the guy who wrote this article does, is about as smart as comparing PC sales to underwear sales. I'm sure that underwear sales this year will dwarf PC and cell-phone sales alike, but that doesn't mean underwear is going to take the place of PCs... Ever. Likewise, people can buy all of the cell phones they want, but that will have nothing to do with the number of PC's people will buy or build this year. (Another analogy: mobile homes will overtake and replace traditional homes simply because they are mobile: not going to happen.)
And when the author of this nutty story talks about the PC market (which includes Macs of course) using less "ram" than the smartphone/tablet market (whatever *that* is), we find later, buried in his text, that what he's talking about is FLASH ram. Well, duh. My box at home is a full-fledged "PC" but has 0 mb of flash ram on board. 99.9% of PCs don't use it directly. As far as normal DDR is concerned, the PC walks off with it. I've got 8 gigs in my box at home--name me the tablet or phone with 8 gigs on board. Storage? The PC walks off with that one, too. Graphics horsepower? No comparison, the PC is often several hundreds of times more powerful than the most expensive tablet or cell phone.
In short, the author has to fudge and misrepresent many statistics to make his case, unfortunately. It's always the same.
It's because laptops have never been cheaper--and the same is true for desktops, of course. The only thing, and I mean the only thing, that cell phones or tablets excel in is portability. A PC by it's very nature is not portable--it's like the 100" TV some folks have on their walls--it was never designed for portability, but for other things, entirely.
So what do you say to someone you have so advised who needs to replace his hard drive, screen, etc? Do you also inform them that they'll need to box it all up and send it back to the factory for between 2 & 6 *weeks*, (if it's under warranty, that is)?
If you don't *need* portability then buying portable is always more expensive and less practical than buying a desktop. I always advise people to buy desktops unless they have a definite need for portability--or to buy the desktop first for home use and the portable device later, if they have to make a decision between them.
Desktops are an order of magnitude easier and less-expensive to service and to upgrade--indeed, most portable devices are "throw away" in the sense that they cannot be upgraded internally at all.
Lots of people are supplied laptops for work because the portability is required. But if you don't need the portability, then the desktop PC is the only way to go. PCs are still by far the best buys--you often pay through the nose for portability, and I could care less about allowing Apple to keep its miserly profit margins...
Am I going to give up 27" of screen real estate and a large, comfortable, human-sized keyboard with *real feedback* and a 2000-dpi precision mouse for something as clunky as an iPad? No way!... And of course, it's such freedom to be relieved of constantly having to think about battery-life, recharging, and the whole shmear.
Problem is that if tablets ever do "bridge the gap" then they won't be "tablets," anymore, will they? Indeed, for a tablet or a cell phone to be such in the first place is *not* to bridge such gaps...
Considering that dollar for dollar and pound for pound the PC blows away devices like cell phones and tablets in terms of computational power, cost, serviceability, and ease of hardware upgrade potential, I wonder that we ever have these conversations. Personally, I love being able to travel at will without having to constantly monitor the location of my tablet or laptop lest someone steal it or I leave it behind! Ah, the freedom of it...
Portability has its place and its value, no question about that. The mistake is when these very limited devices are compared directly to desktop PCs. The only thing these devices have going for them is portability. On every other count they lose dramatically to the traditional desktop PC.
Problem is that if tablets ever do "bridge the gap" then they won't be "tablets," anymore, will they? Indeed, for a tablet or a cell phone to be such in the first place is *not* to bridge such gaps...
lulz @ the techno-luddites for not understanding what a PC is, or thinking that their usage patterns are the "correct" ones...
P.S. There are a multitude of computing devices... get used to it, you old farts.
P.S. There are a multitude of computing devices... get used to it, you old farts.
2. Prices and performance of laptops are reaching a point where you don't save that much from a desktop, but lose portability.
With your logic, technically a cell phone is a PC.
Ivy Bridge level CPUs in a tablet, um, links/proof or shens.
Also, no, one would not be able to edit HD video, especially when tablets only carry about 1GB of system memory, when anyone who seriously uses media production beyond Windows Movie Maker needs 16-32GB+ system memory.
The fuck are you on?
When it was time to upgrade, some of our developers have moved back to tower systems, due to the higher performance. And with the lower price of the tower, they can get better/larger LCD's.
Well, cellphones *are* general purpose computers these days.... I am specifically talking about x86 tablets and Android tablets here though.... so learn to read I guess.....
Haswell will offer greater than Ivy Bridge performance in tablets when its released... Intel is specifically targetting mobile form factors with it....
The idea that laptops would have the power to perform high end gaming duty, or run advanced production software was laughable just a few years ago.... the same generational improvements are in no way limited to the laptop form factor....
I guess someone has completely missed the last few decades of increasing processing power fitting into smaller and smaller spaces and thermal envelopes...
The fuck are you on?
...and it's still laughable now.The idea that laptops would have the power to perform high end gaming duty, or run advanced production software was laughable just a few years ago
While this has been happening, it is not to the extent that you are making it out to be.I guess someone has completely missed the last few decades of increasing processing power fitting into smaller and smaller spaces and thermal envelopes...
There have been since the 90's, and technically the 80's.
It's just that the stupidity of these articles is really starting to get to us, considering they are factless and baseless.
Believe me, anyone with any knowledge of technology knows that the desktop PC is not going to disappear any time soon.