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I am about to make a computer purchase and I am deciding between intel and amd. It seems that amd roundly beats the i7-7700k in most productivity applications. it also seems that many applications cannot fully or correctly utilize the cores.

I will be using this for stock trading, and the system will be required to be extremely stable. No overclocks here.

I am currently choosing between

AMD Ryzen 1700x w/ ROG Crosshair 6
or
Intel i7-7700k w/ ASUS ROG STRIX Z270G

Since there arent any good matx mobos for ryzen, i will be using a Corsair Carbide 540 in the amd build, or a 240 in the intel build

the rest of the parts are as follows

6x Acer XF270HU
Samsung 960 Evo 250 gb M.2
Corsair RM1000x
Corsair 32GB 2 x 16GB DDR4-3000 C15 Dominator
Corsair Hydro H100i V2

and LIKELY

2x RX580 gpus
Possibly
2x used 980ti gpus..

the vc choice will have nothing to do with freesync, and simply because i need something that can run 6 monitors at 1440p 144hz in a non gaming environment.

The ryzen cpu seems like the better choice for the future, having many cores and whatnot. However, I have heard about bios issues with motherboards, software compatibility issues, and so on and so forth. Is anyone using ryzen as a daily driver with no issues whatsoever?

oh, my budget for this build is $5000. My goal is the fastest, most stable computer i can get for running 6x1440p monitors in this price range. Consider, half of the 5k is taken out by the monitors.
 
Ryzen seems relatively stable for desktop use. I have a 1800x in one machine (that I use daily) and also a 1600x in another that is not used too much.

On the 1800x I did have one BSOD playing a game, but I believe this was an AMD video driver issue or crappy programming on the game. I also had maybe a few game crashes, but this may have been due to early BIOS or drivers, as they happened in the first 2 weeks I had the machine and after updating a bunch of stuff it hasn't happened since.

On the 1600x rig there have been no problems, but I also haven't used it heavily.
 
Stock clocks, stable/release bios, it should be pretty solid. Just have to make sure you install drivers properly, and you may want to run a few loops of memtest86 to make sure your ddr4 modules are both stable and not "bad" (certain blocks in an otherwise good stick of ram can be bad, which can cause silent corruption or not so silent crashes).
 
With those exact dominator sticks, I could only squeeze 2400mhz out of them on Ryzen at this point. I returned them for some Ripjaws V 3200mhz and could get 2666mhz. Waiting for updated Agesa code from AMD.
 
If your goal is maximum stability... you're probably looking at an Intel at the moment.
 
SighTurtle said:
Ensure you check the QVL for the motherboard for max compatibility with memory.
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For the OP, follow this advice. Just make sure that your memory is listed on the memory QVL list for the motherboard that you choose. If it's up there then you are good to go as far as stability goes.
 
cokewithvanilla said:
I am about to make a computer purchase and I am deciding between intel and amd. It seems that amd roundly beats the i7-7700k in most productivity applications. it also seems that many applications cannot fully or correctly utilize the cores.

I will be using this for stock trading, and the system will be required to be extremely stable. No overclocks here.

I am currently choosing between

AMD Ryzen 1700x w/ ROG Crosshair 6
or
Intel i7-7700k w/ ASUS ROG STRIX Z270G

Since there arent any good matx mobos for ryzen, i will be using a Corsair Carbide 540 in the amd build, or a 240 in the intel build

the rest of the parts are as follows

6x Acer XF270HU
Samsung 960 Evo 250 gb M.2
Corsair RM1000x
Corsair 32GB 2 x 16GB DDR4-3000 C15 Dominator
Corsair Hydro H100i V2

and LIKELY

2x RX580 gpus
Possibly
2x used 980ti gpus..

the vc choice will have nothing to do with freesync, and simply because i need something that can run 6 monitors at 1440p 144hz in a non gaming environment.

The ryzen cpu seems like the better choice for the future, having many cores and whatnot. However, I have heard about bios issues with motherboards, software compatibility issues, and so on and so forth. Is anyone using ryzen as a daily driver with no issues whatsoever?

oh, my budget for this build is $5000. My goal is the fastest, most stable computer i can get for running 6x1440p monitors in this price range. Consider, half of the 5k is taken out by the monitors.
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Over kill on the MB. Your running stock right?
Why are you wanting to run multi-gaming cards? You said "stock-trading" right?
Your running stock, and now your choosing an AIO liquid cooler? Why?
Everything about your post seems bizarre to me. Maybe if you were more honest in what your actual desires from your system are we all could help more.
 
cokewithvanilla said:
I am about to make a computer purchase and I am deciding between intel and amd. It seems that amd roundly beats the i7-7700k in most productivity applications. it also seems that many applications cannot fully or correctly utilize the cores.

I will be using this for stock trading, and the system will be required to be extremely stable. No overclocks here.

I am currently choosing between

AMD Ryzen 1700x w/ ROG Crosshair 6
or
Intel i7-7700k w/ ASUS ROG STRIX Z270G

Since there arent any good matx mobos for ryzen, i will be using a Corsair Carbide 540 in the amd build, or a 240 in the intel build

the rest of the parts are as follows

6x Acer XF270HU
Samsung 960 Evo 250 gb M.2
Corsair RM1000x
Corsair 32GB 2 x 16GB DDR4-3000 C15 Dominator
Corsair Hydro H100i V2

and LIKELY

2x RX580 gpus
Possibly
2x used 980ti gpus..

the vc choice will have nothing to do with freesync, and simply because i need something that can run 6 monitors at 1440p 144hz in a non gaming environment.

The ryzen cpu seems like the better choice for the future, having many cores and whatnot. However, I have heard about bios issues with motherboards, software compatibility issues, and so on and so forth. Is anyone using ryzen as a daily driver with no issues whatsoever?

oh, my budget for this build is $5000. My goal is the fastest, most stable computer i can get for running 6x1440p monitors in this price range. Consider, half of the 5k is taken out by the monitors.
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If just for stock trading and at stock speeds - go for Intel. While the 1.0.0.6 AGEASA is allowing 4 sticks to run better on the CH6 it is still a work in progress and a beta bios. I also find your build bizarre for what it will be used for.
 
noko said:
If just for stock trading and at stock speeds - go for Intel. While the 1.0.0.6 AGEASA is allowing 4 sticks to run better on the CH6 it is still a work in progress and a beta bios. I also find your build bizarre for what it will be used for.
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He clearly states X2 sticks.
 
funkydmunky said:
He clearly states X2 sticks.
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Your right, still x2 16gb sticks are not always a sure thing yet with Ryzen systems. Not sure if there is a stock trader benchmark but IPC and CPU speed I would think would be key.
 
noko said:
Your right, still x2 16gb sticks are not always a sure thing yet with Ryzen systems. Not sure if there is a stock trader benchmark but IPC and CPU speed I would think would be key.
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Your likely correct. I do not imagine trading software to be extremely stressful on the system.
I have a suspicion a dual-core with a decent amount of RAM and a nice multi-display card is all that is needed.
Again the OP appears to be targeting something other then what has been stated.
 
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funkydmunky said:
Your likely correct. I do not imagine trading software to be extremely stressful on the system.
I have a suspicion a dual-core with a decent amount of RAM and a nice multi-display card is all that is needed.
Again the OP appears to be targeting something other then what has been stated.
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yep and a very very fast network connection which would probably be a bottleneck from the get go.
 
cokewithvanilla said:
I am about to make a computer purchase and I am deciding between intel and amd. It seems that amd roundly beats the i7-7700k in most productivity applications. it also seems that many applications cannot fully or correctly utilize the cores.

I will be using this for stock trading, and the system will be required to be extremely stable. No overclocks here.

I am currently choosing between

AMD Ryzen 1700x w/ ROG Crosshair 6
or
Intel i7-7700k w/ ASUS ROG STRIX Z270G

Since there arent any good matx mobos for ryzen, i will be using a Corsair Carbide 540 in the amd build, or a 240 in the intel build

the rest of the parts are as follows

6x Acer XF270HU
Samsung 960 Evo 250 gb M.2
Corsair RM1000x
Corsair 32GB 2 x 16GB DDR4-3000 C15 Dominator
Corsair Hydro H100i V2

and LIKELY

2x RX580 gpus
Possibly
2x used 980ti gpus..

the vc choice will have nothing to do with freesync, and simply because i need something that can run 6 monitors at 1440p 144hz in a non gaming environment.

The ryzen cpu seems like the better choice for the future, having many cores and whatnot. However, I have heard about bios issues with motherboards, software compatibility issues, and so on and so forth. Is anyone using ryzen as a daily driver with no issues whatsoever?

oh, my budget for this build is $5000. My goal is the fastest, most stable computer i can get for running 6x1440p monitors in this price range. Consider, half of the 5k is taken out by the monitors.
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In this thread there is a comprehensive list of DDR4 overclock on the crosshair VI hero in a google doc: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?91831-Crosshair-VI-DRAM-overclocking-data

What you can expect from the overclock now is that 3200 will work some double rank dimm do not work(or are very hard to get working). You would have to mix and match to see where this is going might have to get other brand 2 16gb for it to work on current systems , some even suggest that 4 8GB single rank have less trouble , the problem is that it needs a good deal of research.

AM4 needs a new AGESA , if you have a ram issue I would go for the safe option here. Something other people already got working rather then hoping that it will be fixed.

BTW I have seen a video of a overclocker named Chew he had 4 8gb single rank working 2 flare 2 none flare (both g.skill kits)
 
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The only problem with Ryzen is RAM compatibility. As long as you get RAM that's proven to work at higher speeds, it's rock solid. I haven't experienced any BSODs, freezes etc. since after I dialed in the appropriate RAM settings for my board+RAM combo.
If you go with some generic, cheap RAM, then of course you might have issues. However it would probably still work fine at 2133 - 2667 MHz. It's only at higher speeds than that (which aren't officially supported by AMD anyway) that you might have issues unless you choose your RAM carefully.
 
Relatively stable? Huh? It is rock F'ing solid for me. P state overclocked to 3.9 and doesn't flinch. Just runs and runs and runs.

It is maturated much now and has siginificant bios updates in place. Get good cooling, don't get a junk mobo, and you will be good to go. It is a very fact processor for the money and hell it is a very fast processor vs. Intel pound for pound.

And pay close attn to what Jimmi said above me. Just whatever board you want to buy just look at the QVL for the board and ram and you will be fine.
 
tangoseal said:
Relatively stable? Huh? It is rock F'ing solid for me. P state overclocked to 3.9 and doesn't flinch. Just runs and runs and runs.

It is maturated much now and has siginificant bios updates in place. Get good cooling, don't get a junk mobo, and you will be good to go. It is a very fact processor for the money and hell it is a very fast processor vs. Intel pound for pound.

And pay close attn to what Jimmi said above me. Just whatever board you want to buy just look at the QVL for the board and ram and you will be fine.
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OP is talking about crosshair VI hero which is pretty good with ram.
 
Ryzen has been solid as a rock for me since I bought it. I think the Ryzen teething was mostly in the first week or two after it hit market.

Just make sure you don't get shit RAM and buy a board from somebody who is committed to BIOS updates, like MSI, and you'll be fine.
 
I have 1700x on Gigabyte K7.
BIOS: F4A
CPU clock ratio: 38
Extreme memory Profile: enabled, 3200MHz
( 1.35v, G.Skill FlareX)
CPU Vcore: 1.30v
Vcore SOC: 1.1v ( default)
CPU Vcore Loadline Calibration: Turbo.
Everything else: Auto/default.
Machine is currently running @ 3.8GHz, and it passed 2 hour Prime95 test @ 56.5 degree C.
 
Is it stable? Man seeing how some tortured tested over 24 hours at 4ghz (a few nut heads :) ) . I say it can be very stable. Not everyone though are having the same luck. Even Intel users have issues. I would say Intel in general is more stable. As an over clocker I push it to be unstable then back down to where it is stable. Sometimes it depends on the software and devices being stable as well.

Currently with new AGESA 1.0.0.6 beta bios for ASUS CrossHair VI Hero 9945 stress testing. Strap 3466 works and seems stable but I am now at DDR4 3500 BCLK of 109.4 seeing if old settings are stable. DDR 3600 with BCLK of 108 and strap of DDR 4 3333 would boot but would fail Aida64. Beta bios 9943 I didn't have much success or worst performance then before, 9945 appears to be better.
 
I've had zero stability issues with my 1700x and ASUS motherboard. I was expecting a few issues especially with a rev1 BIOS but everything has exceeded my expectations.
 
The thing is, Ryzen can be a pain in the ass to get stable due to the motherboards being a cluster fuck regarding memory compatibility. Once you get it dialed in, Ryzen based systems are as stable as anything I've seen from Intel and any other motherboard manufacturer.
 
The OP's system seems like the wildest overkill for his needs that I've ever seen. If you built it, it would be a great gaming computer.
 
This is one use case where literally the fastest IPC is probably the most important. Are you doing automatic trading or manual trading. If auto trading then the Intel four core with greater IPC and faster clock speed is actually the faster option and the Ryzens extra cores aren't likely to be of benefit. If it's manual trading it won't make a lick of difference. The computer is so indescribably faster than your human ability to make a decision the platform won't matter.

My brother works at a trading company where automatic trading is the key to the game. They buy the best, highest stock clocked Intel processors and then take them to the bleeding edge, and then back off slightly. They rent server space right next to the exchange to help cut network latency. In this game if your computer can process faster than the next guys it's the difference between making big money and losing money. More cores is far secondary to lightning speed.
 
Rock solid stable here.

Ryzen 1700X @ 3.95GHz (Using PState OC) 1.425v Idle 1.38v under load
Corsair Dominator CMD16GX4M2B3600C18 19-19-19-39 1T @ 3600MHz 1.35v
Asus Crosshair VI Hero BIOS 9943
GeForce GTX 1080Ti SLI
 
Ok there is one wee bit I have to report. Probably not even zens fault. Mass effext andromeda after several hours of gameplay will randomly lock up but I can alt tab and right click close app so i dont think it is the cpu. I think it is a buggy ass game more than likely. But it is worth mentioning since something is causing the game to stick.
 
Dan_D said:
The thing is, Ryzen can be a pain in the ass to get stable due to the motherboards being a cluster fuck regarding memory compatibility. Once you get it dialed in, Ryzen based systems are as stable as anything I've seen from Intel and any other motherboard manufacturer.
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Yes I had so many issues with ram even off the qvl but a few bios updates to the CHVI and its just fancy fine now. Runs full 3200 speed using corsair LpX DDr4
 
That problem may also be your configuration. It could be a software or particular hardware configuration in your specific case. I doubt everyone with a Ryzen CPU and Mass Effect Andromeda is experiencing the same things as you are.
 
tangoseal said:
Ok there is one wee bit I have to report. Probably not even zens fault. Mass effext andromeda after several hours of gameplay will randomly lock up but I can alt tab and right click close app so i dont think it is the cpu. I think it is a buggy ass game more than likely. But it is worth mentioning since something is causing the game to stick.
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Are you using MSI Afterburner by chance? If so, exit afterburner before playing ANY Origin titles and see how that works.
 
I'd agree with a lot of the above--desktop latency is probably more important than cores. More than just IPC plays into that, but even with everything else Intel probably has more than just the edge there. Otoh, my A10-6800k felt snappier than any other processor I had used before, including an i5 (forget which, but it wasn't a low end one). It wasn't fast, but it sure was responsive.
 
Nobu said:
I'd agree with a lot of the above--desktop latency is probably more important than cores. More than just IPC plays into that, but even with everything else Intel probably has more than just the edge there. Otoh, my A10-6800k felt snappier than any other processor I had used before, including an i5 (forget which, but it wasn't a low end one). It wasn't fast, but it sure was responsive.
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Look at the architecture of zen. It is far more effecient than Intel currently. Tje way all the various USB pcie etc... all direct connect to the CPU directly bypassing need of other chips etc... its very snappy and feels significantly faster than my other Intel boxes of late model. Even if a few less instructions are handled per clock. The zen has a significant leg up via smt than intels HT in my user opinion.
 
tangoseal said:
Look at the architecture of zen. It is far more effecient than Intel currently. Tje way all the various USB pcie etc... all direct connect to the CPU directly bypassing need of other chips etc... its very snappy and feels significantly faster than my other Intel boxes of late model. Even if a few less instructions are handled per clock. The zen has a significant leg up via smt than intels HT in my user opinion.
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Maybe it's something to do with the way this MB's bios is interfacing with Win10--almost every action takes a couple seconds to complete if it involves windows (core programs, settings, etc.). Linux feels very fast, as do most non-microsoft programs on Windows. Edit: Oh, windows is doing one of it's huge background update things, so I guess that could be part of it too...
Edit2: Yeah, feels much snappier now that the update is done. Bulldozer and Haswell got nothin on this.
 
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Here is a decent video as to why Zen feels snappier than Intel in many ways... I agree with this user in many of his points....

 
tangoseal said:
Here is a decent video as to why Zen feels snappier than Intel in many ways... I agree with this user in many of his points....

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I watched the video, but I'm not convinced the dude had any idea what he was talking about, lol.
 
I went with Ryzen and the Crosshair 6... to my surprise, i got it home and it doesnt have wifi

Everything is stable, but only getting 2133 out of the ram. Right now, not going to mess with trying to clock it different. Stable is the key word here.
 
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