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Is my system junk?

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ARAI

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i dont understand whats going on here, i have a great system in theroy, but its proformance is shitt. i spent a ton of money to bulid a new machine and getting crap results... let me list what i have in detail, any help would be awesome cause i feel like i wasted alot of money...

ASUS P4S800 - SIS CHIPSET - WITH NEWEST DRIVERS
1024 PC3200 DDR
P4 3.0 800FSB 1 MEG L2 PRESCOTT CORE
GAINWARD NVIDIA FX5900 ULTRA 256MEG DDR
WD 80 GIG 8 MEG CACHE
480 WATT POWER SUPPLY

3DMARK03 I SCORED ABOUT 6K WITH NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS I ALSO TRIED IT WITH THE DRIVERS ON THE GAINWARD DISK AND SCORED 3K

ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS?
 
What is wrong with your peformance you haven't really listed any problems.

6k sounds about right for 3DMark.
 
a 3dmarks score of 6k is about right for that system, i think the weakness of your system is the motherboard. an intel 865 or 875 board would perform better than that SiS chipset. your cpu is good, its a prescott so it will perform slightly slower than a 3.0 northwood. have you considered overclocking at all. that prescott should hit 3.5 easily.
 
6K is good? i thought i should be around 10k with this system, i mean when 3dmark runs the cpu test im getting liek 2fps all choppy and shitty, is the p4 3.0 not strong enuff?
 
That sounds like a pretty solid system to me. I don't know a whole lot about that video card, but from the little I do know it's not great but not bad. Other than that it sounds good to me.
 
3.5 stable? i just have a side blow hole case fan and stock heatsink and fan
 
ARAI said:
6K is good? i thought i should be around 10k with this system, i mean when 3dmark runs the cpu test im getting liek 2fps all choppy and shitty, is the p4 3.0 not strong enuff?
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youd get over 10k in 3dmark03 if you were running a x800 or a geforce 6 of somesort. run 3dmarks01 and youll probobly get around a 18000, your probobly thinking of that score.

ARAI said:
3.5 stable? i just have a side blow hole case fan and stock heatsink and fan
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some people have reported to get as high as 3.5 with stock cooling, i wouldnt go past 3.2 with it tho. you could upgrade to an sp-94, that would be alot safer for overclocking the prescott.
 
if u look at a aother post i made a few days ago someone posted pics of there system specs and 3dmark03 score he scored a 11k with a gforce 6800 and a barton with 333 fsb?
 
ARAI said:
i ran 3dmark2001 se i scored 15500
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hmm...that seems a little low. i was getting around a 14k with a geforce fx 5600ultra in the system in my sig.
 
Agreed get the 6800gt or x800pro. Both would shine in that system. I went with the 6800gt. The 5900 is your bottleneck. But the scores seem good, how do your games play? Isn't that what is most important?
 
ARAI said:
249 bucks for the 5900 ultra 256
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ouch...

well. comin to think about it, that price is about right but i would have rather got a 128mb 9800pro and modded it to an xt.
 
ARAI said:
249 bucks for the 5900 ultra 256
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I take back what I said. If you can still return it then by all means do so. It's not a terrible card, but you can get better for around the same amount. A 9800 Pro would wax that thing.
 
well i play 3 games mostly connection zero which a radeon 64 could handle lol battle field1942 all settings on high np but farcry can play all on veryhigh but the mouse is a lil sluggish works better with settings on just high, also how much of a difference could i get changing the mobo to the intel 875 boarD?
 
ARAI said:
should i just overclock the shit out of this card to the max?
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You can if you want, but the FX5900 is handicapped in intensive DX9 games, especially those that do not have a NV3x path. You would do a lot better returning it for a 6800GT, which can be 2-3 times faster at times, than overclocking it. No overclock is going to overcome the register problem the fx5900 has and its slow FP32 shader performance.

If you can't spend the extra cash on a 6800GT, even returning it for a $289 128mb 6800 will be a huge improvement.
 
ARAI said:
well i play 3 games mostly connection zero which a radeon 64 could handle lol battle field1942 all settings on high np but farcry can play all on veryhigh but the mouse is a lil sluggish works better with settings on just high, also how much of a difference could i get changing the mobo to the intel 875 boarD?
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If you want to play farcry, dump the 5900u and get the 6800gt, it is so much better in so many ways. You are at a waste with the rest of your system with that 5900u.
 
creedAMD said:
If you want to play farcry, dump the 5900u and get the 6800gt, it is so much better in so many ways. You are at a waste with the rest of your system with that 5900u.
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I'd have to second that. If money is an issue then grab a 9800 Pro. While the 6800GT would be ideal in your situation, the 9800 Pro is a still a good deal better than the 5900 you have now.
 
Dijonase said:
I'd have to second that. If money is an issue then grab a 9800 Pro. While the 6800GT would be ideal in your situation, the 9800 Pro is a still a good deal better than the 5900 you have now.
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9800Pro is a lot better and a lot cheaper. I think they can be had for $170, that'll leave you some money to save towards a 6800gt(if you can't afford it now) or DOOM3!!
 
creedAMD said:
9800Pro is a lot better and a lot cheaper. I think they can be had for $170, that'll leave you some money to save towards a 6800gt(if you can't afford it now) or DOOM3!!
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Heh funny thing is though the FX5900 Ultra stinks in intensive DX9 games, there is a good chance it will beat the 9800PRO in Doom3.
 
tranCendenZ said:
Heh funny thing is though the FX5900 Ultra stinks in intensive DX9 games, there is a good chance it will beat the 9800PRO in Doom3.
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True, true. A very good chance. I doubt it would be a $80 difference though.
 
creedAMD said:
True, true. A very good chance. I doubt it would be a $80 difference though.
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Yeh spending more than $200 for a FX5900/5950 Ultra or a 9800pro/xt is a ripoff. Once you get into the $250 range you should be looking at the 6800 standard 128mb, as it will hose the 5900/9800/last years cards.
 
ARAI said:
i dont understand whats going on here, i have a great system in theroy, but its proformance is shitt. i spent a ton of money to bulid a new machine and getting crap results... let me list what i have in detail, any help would be awesome cause i feel like i wasted alot of money...

ASUS P4S800 - SIS CHIPSET - WITH NEWEST DRIVERS
1024 PC3200 DDR
P4 3.0 800FSB 1 MEG L2 PRESCOTT CORE
GAINWARD NVIDIA FX5900 ULTRA 256MEG DDR
WD 80 GIG 8 MEG CACHE
480 WATT POWER SUPPLY

3DMARK03 I SCORED ABOUT 6K WITH NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS I ALSO TRIED IT WITH THE DRIVERS ON THE GAINWARD DISK AND SCORED 3K

ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS?
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A few things:
-You shouldn't have gone with a sis chipset, an intel I-865 or I-875 would have been much, much better
-You should have gotten a Northwood (P4c) rather than a Prescott (P4e), Prescotts are slower and hotter
-The 5900 isn't that great a card, a 9800 of some kind (possibly the 128mb 9800Pro) or one of the newer X800 or 6800 cards would have been a better buy
 
Cmdrmonkey said:
A few things:
-You shouldn't have gone with a SYS chipset, an intel I-865 or !-875 would have been much, much better
-You should have gotten a Northwood (P4c) rather than a Prescott (P4e), Prescotts are slower and hotter
-The 5900 isn't that great a card, a 9800 of some kind (possibly the 128mb 9800Pro) or one of the newer X800 or 6800 cards would have been a better buy
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Yeah, SiS wasn't a great choice. 3d03 = 6000 marks is right on target. Also, prescott was certainly not the right choice when the P4C northwood is so much cooler and scales just was well up to and past 3.6Ghz.
 
thats not a bad card or a bad price. Not too long ago those cards were $300+.

for the price though I would have added another $50 and gotten a 6800 vanilla for $300. ANyway, its probably too late so lets focus on your benchmarks.

My estimation is that you're scoring about where you should be. Though if you had a dual channel Intel mobo (865 or 875) your 3dMark2001 scores would be higher from the higher bandwidth memory and better AGP drivers.

For high end gaming though its mostly GPU dependent, like on 3dMark2003, you scored right about where you should be. Granted a new Intel mobo might give you 6500 and 17000 instead of 6000 and 15500. But I dont think its worth the bother to change.

Also, Prescotts are little slower clock for clock than a Northwood, so if you're comparing your benchmarks to someone with a Northwood, expect it to be a little bit lower.

While it would give you better benchmarks, I DOUBT you would notice the difference in gameplay. Ex: you might get an extra 3-5fps.
 
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