Is my overclock killing my CPU??

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Hello,

So for the past few days when i turn on my computer in the morning, there is this clicking sound, the clicking sound has a frequency of avout two times a second, it continues for about 2 minutes, then it get's lower and lower.. then it disapears.. it usually takes one night for it to come back.. i'm sure it's not the harddrive.. it sounds liek it's coming from the CPU area.

I have a 2500+ at 3200+

anyone ever heard of this??? any suggestions?

thanks
 
impoccible for the cpu to do such... no moving parts... but what could be causing it is the voltage regulator for the cpu...
 
unplug all disk drives and the like then turn ur machine on. If its gone then its a mechanical drive.

If its still there then it could be fan bearing dying or something.
 
What mobo are you running?

My brother's NF7-S makes humming/clicking noises when ever his cpu or ram is at 100% load.... beats me how it does it, but it does it :D
 
When my old HD went tits up it wade a loud wacking sound over and over (this was while playing CS) until the map changed then it locked up and never worked again.
 
Cpu's wouldn't make noises....unless it was frying or sparking or something...then it'd make some noises. :eek:
 
id bet cash money its the northbridge fan or the CPU fan to find out boot up and when you hear the clicking noise stop the fan with your finger :rolleyes: dosnt hurt much lol and if the sound goes away well duh.. if that isnt it and your shure its not the HD maybe your PC has a ghost lol
 
OKay.. here's what i did... i unpluged all drives.. including HDD... i still heard it... then i unplugged all fans including CPU fan.. still heard it.. my North bridge doesn't have a fan.. the motherboard is a ASUS A7N8X-E

like i said before.. i'm 100% sure the sound is coming from the CPU's general area.. it probably isn't the CPU.. maybe the NOrth bridge as someone said earlier???.. like i said before.. it seems that once after the computer warms up.. it goes away... so what do you guys think???

cause for concern..

I also tried using an air can to remove dust.. i still hear it.. though i didn't throughly remove the dust.. cause i'm in a bit of a hurry... anyway.. thanks for the replies..
 
well the only thing left would be your powersupply .. what model are you using ?
 
I'd say, no.

I overclocked my 2500+ (default 1.83Ghz) to 2.75Ghz and it's still running strong

believe me, if you think you've pushed your cpu hard, look around....i'd say it takes skill or stupidity to kill a cpu.
 
Is the clicking sound a really soft one, but sounds kinda high frequency?

If so, then I get that too whenever I'm trying to go for a really high overclock. What I hear is that the voltage regulators on the mobo (those things with coils on them) make the sound when they're under heavy load.
 
you guys are probably right.. i dont think it's the overclock.. as i even tried dopping the clock.. and it still id the same sound... hummmm damn my power supply???

my power supply is a Vantec ION 400W..

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-474&depa=0

I got it about four months ago...

Like i said before.. it only does this on cold starts (sounds like i'm talking about a car).. my room in the morning is usually very cold.. so when i turn it on.. that's when i hear it.. and when things warm up a bit in the case it stops... that sound isn't a high pictched sound.. i cna't really desbrice it two well.. maybe something liek the sound of plastic playing cards being shuffled slow.. and not as loud too..

before i can test anything out.. i'm gonna have to wait another night.. cause the sound has been long gone.. probably won't return till tomorrow... should i bust out the multi-meter and check my voltages? according to the on board voltage sensor things look ok.. they've been the same since the day i got the supply.. and the voltages don't even spike.. this supply provide good consisten voltage..
 
The reason i asked if it was an overclock is cause this is my first time ovreclocking.. and i really don't know what is the consequence of leaving a CPU OCed for a long time.. this CPU has been overclocked for about 3 -4 months now... and i got it about 4 - 5 months ago..
 
I'm almost positive it's the inductors (coils near cpu) on your motherboard.
Get a piece of tubing, hold one end up to your ear, and move the other end around the motherboard. That way you can pinpoint the sound.

People coat their inductors with all kinds of stuff. Superglue, airplane dope, nailpolish, RTV sealant, hot glue. Coat them with something that won't allow the wires on the coil to vibrate, since that is what's making the sound.

Try hotglue first to see if it makes a difference. Seeing how it has a higher chance of coming off later.
 
ryuji said:
impoccible for the cpu to do such... no moving parts... but what could be causing it is the voltage regulator for the cpu...
Overclocked CPUs and other components in fact do wear out. My uncle has been running an overclocked machine for a while now for day-to-day tasks, and it's losing the overclock. That's just the CPU, video cards take it much worse. Typically you'll get the black screen after a couple weeks..
 
Did you ever try stopping the fan on your vid card? My old video card was making a VERY similar sound and I assumed it was the HDD without even opening the case. Then I changed it out and noticed I still had the sound, so I actually put my head in the case to see what it was and through it was something weird with the mobo. Then I finally figured I'd try manually stopping fans during boot and it turned out to be the vid card. Guess a bearing in the bastard went out.

And this was ONLY happening the first time during the day that I booted the PC, it would go away after about 1 minute. Very strange.

Anyways, I guess you could have some leaking capacitors on the Mobo, but that would be more of a whining sound if I remember right.
 
I have an NF7-S 2.0 running a 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) and every time I start up my comp I hear a clicking noise from the general motherboard area for about 10-15 seconds but its been doing that for over a month now with no ill effects as far as I can tell.
 
that's for the replies.. well i'm gonna have to wait till tomorrow morning to check.. but i'll try stopping the Vid card fan.. and then i'll try using a tube to fine the sound.. i'm also gonna double check to see if the sound is coming from the PSU..

If it's coming from the inductors.. then there's nothing to worry about huh?

thanks
 
I have actually seen ( heard ) something like this before, but it was on an original slot 1 Athlon. The system wouldn't even post, so I unplug everything from the board(including the fans) and still hear a clicking sound, so I remove the Athlon from the slot, turn the power on, and its gone. Upon cracking open the CPU there was a nice little black spot where it had been arcing. I don't even think anything like this is possible with a socket CPU though, especially if it still works :)
 
Ill check my northbridge fan this evening too. Let u know if thats the culprit. Tho I have a general aversion to touching my fans. I learned a lesson the painfull way once. :eek:
 
K10wN said:
Overclocked CPUs and other components in fact do wear out. My uncle has been running an overclocked machine for a while now for day-to-day tasks, and it's losing the overclock. That's just the CPU, video cards take it much worse. Typically you'll get the black screen after a couple weeks..

few weeks? yeah right. overclocking does shorten the life of your componets, but it goes from like 10 years to 7, at which point you wouldnt be using it anyway, or it would be back at stock in a backup machine. if video cards bit the dust with an overclock after a few weeks, no one would do it, ever. i had a radeon 9600 pro running at 500/700 for a year till i get my GT, and the GT has been running for about a month at 400/1.1. parts do NOT hit the dust that quickly from running them out of spec. when i got my CPU, i overclocked it, and its been running for a year and some odd months at 2.4 orig, took it down to 2.3 bc i didnt like the heat and the voltage i had to pump into it.
 
K10wN said:
I had a 5900nu die on me after three months of 560/930


well its no wonder, the stock clock on the nu is 400/850. thats one hell of an overclock, 160 on the core and 80 on hte mem. tell me, did you have better cooling on that sucka?

very high overclocks will do that, go look for the thread about the guy's pro->xtpe @590/603 or something rediculous like that. it died, thats WAY to high a clock for that video card.

i think if everyone's video card died within 3 months of overclocking it, not many people would be willing to do it anymore.
 
I strapped an A64 stock heatsink on it. Worked much better.

Anyway, I flashed it back (even though it won't render a thing, the flash was still successful hehe) and sent it to BFG to get a replacement, after of course putting the stock cooler back on, with the thermal pads and all. Anyway, the first time those idiots shipped it to two wrong address. Then they decided to just chill for about a month. Or two. Then they sent me a 5900Ultra, because of the delay they decided I deserve a card that costs $42 to manufacture, as opposed to $40. The card was dead, I don't know how replacing a broken video card with another broken video card solves anything. Anyway, now I'm having another one shipped to me. I don't even want the damn thing anymore, but, HAY! If I'm lucky only another week till I get my rig working again. If not another broken 5900U.
 
lithium726 said:
well its no wonder, the stock clock on the nu is 400/850. thats one hell of an overclock, 160 on the core and 80 on hte mem. tell me, did you have better cooling on that sucka?

very high overclocks will do that, go look for the thread about the guy's pro->xtpe @590/603 or something rediculous like that. it died, thats WAY to high a clock for that video card.

i think if everyone's video card died within 3 months of overclocking it, not many people would be willing to do it anymore.
wrong, 5900nu 5900 ultra and 5950 ultra are the same exact card, diff bios thats all...and the ammount of memory... my 5900 nu did 5950 ultra speeds without even modifying cooling.. i got the zalman heat-pipe just because 100C wasnt verry comforting
 
ryuji said:
wrong, 5900nu 5900 ultra and 5950 ultra are the same exact card, diff bios thats all...and the ammount of memory... my 5900 nu did 5950 ultra speeds without even modifying cooling.. i got the zalman heat-pipe just because 100C wasnt verry comforting


yes, BUT.. why do you think his core got put in a nu? if it died at 560, im guessing it was a failed core, so it was put in a lower model. after running 560 for a while, it died becuase it was not up to the task.

also, you just proved my point.. just becuase his specific 5900nu died, doesnt mean everyone else's card will die
 
lithium726 said:
yes, BUT.. why do you think his core got put in a nu? if it died at 560, im guessing it was a failed core, so it was put in a lower model. after running 560 for a while, it died becuase it was not up to the task.

also, you just proved my point.. just becuase his specific 5900nu died, doesnt mean everyone else's card will die
nvidia actually didnt weed through the cores.... a 5950 is really a hacked 5900 ultra... they jsut overvolted... the memory was exactly typical and expected... some time take a look at how much overclocking overhead a 5950 has... no more then 30-60 mhtz most of time and the fact that memory runs hot screams overvolting...... volt mods fix these problems tho and you can get 600 mhtz core easly and 1.2 ghtz memory only reason 5950 bios doesnt increase memory overclockability too much is because the bios does not controll the memory voltage
 
what prob made the xtpe die is he was using a crippled core... and was turning on broken pipelines... it probably caused a chain reaction
 
ryuji said:
nvidia actually didnt weed through the cores.... a 5950 is really a hacked 5900 ultra... they jsut overvolted... the memory was exactly typical and expected... some time take a look at how much overclocking overhead a 5950 has... no more then 30-60 mhtz most of time and the fact that memory runs hot screams overvolting...... volt mods fix these problems tho and you can get 600 mhtz core easly and 1.2 ghtz memory only reason 5950 bios doesnt increase memory overclockability too much is because the bios does not controll the memory voltage

just becuase they didnt activly search for only cores that were defective to put in lower end cards, does not mean they did find some and did it. if they get a fabbed core that is good to go at 400mhz and not 500, they are gonna put it in a nu. not all cores are created equal.

when companies have more good cores for things such as the 5950 ultra than they need, of course they are gonna put it in a lower card just to sell the thing. this does not mean that all cores fabbed are good to go at 5950u speeds.

what prob made the xtpe die is he was using a crippled core... and was turning on broken pipelines... it probably caused a chain reaction

have you seen the overclocks for the xt-pe? normally no more than like 10mhz, ati is really at their limit with these things... and yet, he has a watercooled, vmodded, x800pro vivo, which we are SURE is a failed core bc if it wasnt, it would be in an xtpe, as ATi cant meet demands as is. he had the core running at a whopping 600mhz, way above the stock clock, way above the clock it failed at, with parts of the GPU being stressed taht might have a flaw in them. im sure it was combination of all these things, but that clock speed SURELY has somethng to do with it.
 
good points..so your thinking the poor dude had a defective cored 5900
 
i would def say that is what it sounds like, of course he could just have a really hot case, but i know nothing of his temps. there are alot of people using really overclocked 5900's, in fact, i read an article about how to vmodd the core and memory( this is with a 5900xt), get some sick cooling on htere, and overclock the bejesus out of it, and it will rival a 9800xt. if people are willing to do something like that, there must be an overwhelming majority success rate on those 5900 cards
 
i can do such...i know what to solder... its easier on a 5900 then a 5900xt im just scared right now
 
I don't think it was crippled, just couldn't live with the constant stress. The temps were about 40 idle up to 75 render. I had a custom bios, so I can't blame coolbits... And besides, the card was still "working" after the incident happened, just it wouldn't render anything. That probably means some leads inside the chip melted to a point that the electrons could "tunnel" through the silicone, making it short-circuit. Suxor.

Maybe a high potential spike killed it? Either way, I'm receiving a 5900U early next week, let's hope it's a working one this time.

My case has no fewer than 13 fans by the way. :D
 
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