Is my e4300 running too hot?

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I have my e4300 running at 3ghz @ 1.3v with a Zalman CNPS9500 attached to it. I have the bracket installed correctly, but at idle it runs at 47 degrees. Is that too hot or am I normal?
 
That's fine, but the real question is what are your LOAD temps? And how are you getting the reading? Bundled Windows board utility, BIOS, Intel's TAT, CoreTemp, Speed Fan's temp or core monitor?
 
I'd say ideling at 47c is pretty high if you are using 9500 zalman...
 
I'm getting the readings from CoreTemp. My load temps running prime for about 5 minutes (haven't got to really test it) never broke 62 degrees. I might just redo the arctic silver and reinstall it.
 
OK. I reinstalled it (PITA) and this time I let it run longer and it truly topped out at 71 degrees under load in orthos. That is definitely too hot. What should I do?
 
That seems fairly hot for a C2D. Sure you installed heatsink correctly?
 
Im in the same temps as you and Im on a Tuniq. I tried to help out the cooling by adding another fan, but that didnt do much. Im going to try and lap the HSF because the tuniq was in pretty bad shape.
 
On a 4300 at 1.325 vcore 3.0ghz stock Intel HSF

My temps measured with Intel TAT (coretemp causes random crashes) are nearly identical to the Op's

Idle: between 46-48
Load (Orthos): 70-72
Load (Games): 58-62
 
With the new coretemp, I cant even run the program. Once I double click on it, my screen goes black and I can get a response from it.
 
merlin87 said:
With the new coretemp, I cant even run the program. Once I double click on it, my screen goes black and I can get a response from it.
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It's odd...for me it runs for a little bit, then the machine will randomly reboot. It did this multiple time. Uninstalled it...never happened again :confused:
 
ominous protocol said:
On a 4300 at 1.325 vcore 3.0ghz stock Intel HSF

My temps measured with Intel TAT (coretemp causes random crashes) are nearly identical to the Op's

Idle: between 46-48
Load (Orthos): 70-72
Load (Games): 58-62
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Load the cpu using TAT, not orthos. Tat gets the temps much higher!
 
That doesn't seem all that abnormal for an E4300... Their IHS's are applied with paste, not a solder.
 
SuperKeijo said:
Load the cpu using TAT, not orthos. Tat gets the temps much higher!
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I am aware of that...I do not really feel the need for all of that. Why would I want to jack my temps higher on the stock heatsink?

I just wanted to give the Op a point of reference.
 
ominous protocol said:
I am aware of that...I do not really feel the need for all of that. Why would I want to jack my temps higher on the stock heatsink?

I just wanted to give the Op a point of reference.
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Well maybe it's just me, but I when I want to seek load temps, I want the sucker to burn as hard as possible. That way at least you know the temps propably won't rise higher at any circumstance what so ever. Gives you an idea of the max possible temps. But anyway.. when running orthos be sure to run it in "small ffts" mode. :)
 
Arcygenical said:
That doesn't seem all that abnormal for an E4300... Their IHS's are applied with paste, not a solder.
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So they're running hotter then their conroe counterparts because they used TIM instead of solder?

And at 3150mhz 1.418v my temps are:
Idle:37C
Load:62C
 
Moe.RON said:
So they're running hotter then their conroe counterparts because they used TIM instead of solder?
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That's what I've heard. Some guy on xtremesystems uncapped his 4300 and got an 8-10C drop in temps. Tempting...
 
Volkum said:
That's what I've heard. Some guy on xtremesystems uncapped his 4300 and got an 8-10C drop in temps. Tempting...
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Word man, 10C drop is crazy O_O. Definitely worth it in my book, but then again it's the xtremesystem forums ;)
So I mean.... :p
 
Well thanks for the replies. I was going to try the Intel TAT program, but it wont even run. It gives me an error and then closes. The error is "Error enumerating On Demand Clock Modulation support. Terminating Tool". If anyone knows what this means can you please elaborate?
 
I think I have found the issue. The new CoreTemp v.95 is bugged. Version .94 reads everything correctly.



I'm happy now. Tell me if this is right or not.
 
Because all readings I can get are in the 30's INCLUDING an older Core Temp. The .95 version is the only one that reads in the 40's and if you look, the .94 version reads the core correctly (Allendale) where the newer one reads it as Conroe-2M. If I could get the Intel TAT program working I would know for sure.
 
XboxodX said:
Because all readings I can get are in the 30's INCLUDING an older Core Temp. The .95 version is the only one that reads in the 40's and if you look, the .94 version reads the core correctly (Allendale) where the newer one reads it as Conroe-2M. If I could get the Intel TAT program working I would know for sure.
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I hate to lay it out for you but all those 30c idle temps are just pure BS. The older coretemp has an offset of -15c (something to do with tjunction setting or what ever). And the new version has fixed that. So the higher temps are right and the lower ones aren't. Using coretemp 0.94 I can get my cpu idle temp using air cooling BELOW room temperatures. So it is the 0.94 that's bugged, not the new one.
 
SuperKeijo said:
I hate to lay it out for you but all those 30c idle temps are just pure BS. The older coretemp has an offset of -15c (something to do with tjunction setting or what ever). And the new version has fixed that. So the higher temps are right and the lower ones aren't. Using coretemp 0.94 I can get my cpu idle temp using air cooling BELOW room temperatures. So it is the 0.94 that's bugged, not the new one.
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Well, shit. I was all happy when I thought I figured it out. Ah well. Anyways, is 45 degrees idle/ 72+ degrees load normal or what?
 
If that is normal for an e4300, then why does a few e6300s i've seen that are running faster idle around 35 degrees?
 
3.2ghz e4300 here, thermalright ultra 90 with a 68cfm fan.

1.5vcore instead of your 1.3.

tops out at 69c under dual othros run via core temp .95

with the stock HSF with lower vcore and 3.0ghz, it goes to mid/high 70's.
 
Well that makes me feel better about my temps. With stock cooling @ 2.7 Ghz it got its hottest at 62* after 16 hours of orthos. When I bump the voltage a lil and go higher it will get into the 70's.

Waiting on the Ultima 90 to go higher, so 2.7 it is for now.
 
Fox_T said:
I don't think thats normal. I mean 72c is pretty high. Ive seen E4300 running much lower on higher oc.

OP what cooling are you using is it stock hsf?
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I'm using a Zalman 9500. I've reinstalled the cooler and Arctic Silver at least 3 times. I've tightened down everything I can as tight as it can go, including the bracket on the mobo. I just don't know what's wrong. But right now it's idling at 40 degrees (of course I just started the computer), so things might be getting better.
 
I think those temps look right. Using the newer coretemp I was getting 42 idle and 59 orthos load at stock 1.8ghz with stock heatsink.

Currently at 2.7ghz, it is 43 idle and 63 load. Although I first measured it at around 67 load but I think that was with the case open.

Would AS5 help lower the temps on the stock heatsinks for the cpu and northbridge?
 
XboxodX said:
If that is normal for an e4300, then why does a few e6300s i've seen that are running faster idle around 35 degrees?
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My E6400 with stock cooling idles at 33 degrees...2 degrees lower then the motherboard(P5N32-E SLI Plus). And my 8800GTS 320MB factory OC idles at 51 degrees.
Idle temps are at standard room temp with all 4 120mm case fans on lowest speeds.
Antec P180 rocks.
 
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