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Is it worth it?

Is it worth the hassle?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • No

    Votes: 10 50.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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BrandonB

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Well, I've been hearing the D-Tek Fuzion block is better than the Apogee GT (that's what I have now). I was wandering if it would be worth the hassle of selling my Apogee and getting a D-Tek Fuzion? The Fuzions are butt ugly but if it'll help temps I can deal with it I suppose.

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If you don't mind, if you vote either way please post what you selected and why, also what would the performance difference be (in terms of temperatures)?
 
because your already on whats likly to be a kick ass waterloop, and just like a computer, a water loop has a certain part thats bottlenecking your performance. Odds are its not your blocks.
 
**I voted for the FuZion.** I bought both the Apogee GT and the D-Tek FuZion, I'll explain: The ApogeeGt is a good block, so don't get me wrong, however my temps were fluctuating ALL OVER THE PLACE! I mounted it several times, even did a hard mount with it, and with my ambient room temp of 20c My idle temps were next to 30c @ idle!! load went close to 57/58c! The best I was able to pull from this block after using the thicker O-Ring mod was idle temps in the 27/28c and loads of 54c! Please keep in mind my E6600's IHS is lapped smooth and FLAT. I knew my W/Cing setup could provide better temps. I decided the try the D-Tek FuZion, and with all the hype around XS forums, it seemed to be a no brainer:cool: . On the first mount with this block, and a fully bled W/Cing loop, with ambient room temp of 20c, my idle was @ 23/24c and load was @ 37/38c! Damn, now isnt this much better;) . I think the block is a piece of art work if you ask me. The ApogeeGT has those cheesy plastic 1/2 fittings, where as the D-Tek uses aluminum Hi-Flow 1/2 barb fittings. The D-Teks body I think looks much better, but most importantly there is virtually no restriction from this block, where as the ApogeeGT is more restrictive. Help you any?
 
I would say no, just because the apogee gt is already a good block, from what i've heard. i don't know a whole about water cooling just because I don't have a lot of experience with it. They say the D-tek FuZion is about 3-4 degrees C better than the apogee gt, but I woudn't know because I've never used an apogee gt or a D-tek FuZion, yet (since I have a D-tek Fuzion sitting on my desk next to me staring at me from its box waiting to be installed after I get the rest of my parts, an mcr220, a couple of fans and some coolant). If 3-4 degrees is a big deal to you then get a FuZion. If not, or 3-4 degrees difference isn't going to help an overclock or anything for you, then I wouldn't hassle with it. You already have a nice block. Thats just my opinion.
 
Dutt1113 said:
I would say no, just because the apogee gt is already a good block, from what i've heard. i don't know a whole about water cooling just because I don't have a lot of experience with it. They say the D-tek FuZion is about 3-4 degrees C better than the apogee gt, but I woudn't know because I've never used an apogee gt or a D-tek FuZion, yet (since I have a D-tek Fuzion sitting on my desk next to me staring at me from its box waiting to be installed after I get the rest of my parts, an mcr220, a couple of fans and some coolant). If 3-4 degrees is a big deal to you then get a FuZion. If not, or 3-4 degrees difference isn't going to help an overclock or anything for you, then I wouldn't hassle with it. You already have a nice block. Thats just my opinion.
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Dont take this the wrong way, but all of what you just posted is all based on "What you heard" who cares about what you heard, Im sure this person whats factual proof, and that is what I wrote. You even said in your post, and I quote you on this "i don't know a whole about water cooling just because I don't have a lot of experience with it." , well now with that said, why would you comment on this:confused: Here is another quote from your post, "If 3-4 degrees is a big deal to you then get a FuZion." I have got to tell you this, 3, 4c is a nice difference for most people, now if you where phase cooling, then 3/4c isn't anything to care about, however with water cooling, the object is to stay the closest to the ambient room temperature, or to achieve a low delta from idle to load, so therefore 3/4c is a noticeable difference! If he is currently loading @ 43c, doesn't 39c sound better? I just made these load temps up to use as an example.
 
newls1 said:
Dont take this the wrong way, but all of what you just posted is all based on "What you heard" who cares about what you heard, Im sure this person whats factual proof, and that is what I wrote. You even said in your post, and I quote you on this "i don't know a whole about water cooling just because I don't have a lot of experience with it." , well now with that said, why would you comment on this:confused: Here is another quote from your post, "If 3-4 degrees is a big deal to you then get a FuZion." I have got to tell you this, 3, 4c is a nice difference for most people, now if you where phase cooling, then 3/4c isn't anything to care about, however with water cooling, the object is to stay the closest to the ambient room temperature, or to achieve a low delta from idle to load, so therefore 3/4c is a noticeable difference! If he is currently loading @ 43c, doesn't 39c sound better? I just made these load temps up to use as an example.
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yeah I guess you're right. 3-4 degrees C would be quite a big difference.
 
Thank you for taking the time to reply...

My current idle temps are 35c and load temps are about 45c or so, from what I'm hearing it seems like the Fuzion would be a wise upgrade, I think I just might do that. I will get back with you if I do decide to =).

Thanks everyone!
 
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131297

My conclusions so far:

Given the fact that all tests by the same testers varied by up to 2-4 degrees just by remounting or doing another run and the fact that all blocks are typically within a few degrees of each other (and often much less) I would say it's impossible to declare any block definitively superior to another so far.

Given this, I think any testing without multiple and equal number of remounts for each block can be very misleading. For example, Nikhsub1's tests show that the Fuzion could win by 4 degrees or lose by 1 degree to the GT depending on which mount and run you used to compare. With the mount making as much as a 5 degree difference on blocks that typically only differ by a couple of degrees it makes drawing conclusions from limited runs/mounts dubious at best.

The only thing that everyone seems to agree on is that the Fuzion flows significantly better than any other CPU block giving it a distinct advantage in multi-block loop performance.
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I've just decided to stick with my Apogee GT and I just ordered some EK High Flow barbs for it, not that, that will make the temps any better but I don't like those ugly black barbs it comes with. :p
 
BrandonB said:
I've just decided to stick with my Apogee GT and I just ordered some EK High Flow barbs for it, not that, that will make the temps any better but I don't like those ugly black barbs it comes with. :p
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Ok, so your tearing down your loop to change just 2 hose barbs, why not replace the block with the fuzion to justify tearing down your loop, this way, you can say you did an upgrade!
 
newls1 said:
Ok, so your tearing down your loop to change just 2 hose barbs, why not replace the block with the fuzion to justify tearing down your loop, this way, you can say you did an upgrade!
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I'm not tearing it down just because of that, I'm putting in a waterblock for my GPU and I have to redo the tubing going to my radiator because I have to change out the barbs due to a leak. Also, the Fuzion is 73 dollars shipped, I don't have 73 dollars right now. :p
 
Crap, I voted "Yes" by accident. I meant to vote "No". Sorry about that. 8 to 7 right now.
 
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