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Here's my early Conroe E6400 with half the cache disabled on a P5B Deluxe.What does TAT tells you?
Looks like I found the culprit.
Thanks for the update impar.
I tried CoreTemp 0.95 on my E6400 and it reports the same as what CoreTemp 0.94 reports so it looks like he fixed it for the new E4300 chips without screwing up the readings for the previous chips! That's great.
If you have a chance impar can you try my experiment to see how low your idle temps can go compared to ambient.
Lock your multi at 6X in the bios and set core voltage down to about 1.175 v to 1.200 volts.
It would be interesting to see what CoreTemp 0.95 has to say now.
Here we go again!Now I do not know what to believe??
Here we go again!
Why not try my experiment and run your CPU as slow as possible with low volts and see if your core temperature gets down to ambient temperature.
Post your exact details in terms of heatsink and fan you're using, ambient temperature, MHz and core voltage as reported by SpeedFan so we can see if your new number makes sense.
Do you know if your E6400 is one of the new ones? Check out the revision with CPUz. My E6400 is an early, revision B2, and the new ones should be revision L2.
10 or 12 hours to spare? To adjust the multi and drop the core voltage?
Last time I checked it was one reboot and a couple of minor bios adjustments. Simple. Your computer is still quite usable and for most light duty things the change is barely noticeable.
The reason I suggest doing this is because it seems to be an easy way to calibrate your temperature readings. By dropping things down to low MHz and low voltage I found that CoreTemp reported about 2C great than my ambient temperature.
If CoreTemp reports something totally different than ambient temperature then it is a sign that something is not right.
What FSB?If you have a chance impar can you try my experiment to see how low your idle temps can go compared to ambient.
Lock your multi at 6X in the bios and set core voltage down to about 1.175 v to 1.200 volts.
I used my E6400 default of 266 MHz but for an E4300 you could use its default of 200 MHz.Greetings!What FSB?
10 or 12 hours to spare? To adjust the multi and drop the core voltage?
Last time I checked it was one reboot and a couple of minor bios adjustments. Simple. Your computer is still quite usable and for most light duty things the change is barely noticeable.
10 or 12 hours to spare? To adjust the multi and drop the core voltage?
Last time I checked it was one reboot and a couple of minor bios adjustments. Simple. Your computer is still quite usable and for most light duty things the change is barely noticeable.
The reason I suggest doing this is because it seems to be an easy way to calibrate your temperature readings. By dropping things down to low MHz and low voltage I found that CoreTemp reported about 2C great than my ambient temperature.
If CoreTemp reports something totally different than ambient temperature then it is a sign that something is not right.
An E4300 is not a mobile processor. The E4300 may have the same 100C t-junction as mobile processors but they're not the same processor.ok !would the t-junction being 100c in coretemp 0.95 mean that my e4300 is a mobile processor?
This confusion is Intel's fault. At the design level they might have Conroe and Allendale processors but at the retail level they don't seem to want consumers to know what they've got.CoreTemp 0.95 shows my cpu to be a "conroe-2m" but CoreTemp 0.94 shows "Allendale.
Finally remembered to do it before turning system on.If you have a chance impar can you try my experiment to see how low your idle temps can go compared to ambient.
Lock your multi at 6X in the bios and set core voltage down to about 1.175 v to 1.200 volts.
This confusion is Intel's fault. At the design level they might have Conroe and Allendale processors but at the retail level they don't seem to want consumers to know what they've got.
They are switching the manufacturing of the E6300 / E6400 from the original 4MB cache with 2MB disabled to the new generation that only has 2MB to begin with or what enthusiasts have been calling the Allendale core. If too many consumers discover that one is better than the other than they can't sell the other without having to discount them. No one wants old technology if new is better and no one wants new technology if the original E6300 / E6400 processors perform better.
Information is coded into these chips but Intel doesn't like to share too much information with individual programmers writing a utility like CoreTemp. If you're part of a large corporation and your company is willing to sign a NDA then maybe they'll talk to you.
Head to the Intel website and try to get this basic information and you'll find it's not readily available.
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impar: I think your numbers make it pretty obvious that CoreTemp 0.95 is reporting your E4300 core temperature properly and SpeedFan v.4.32 is wrong.
With an ambient of 17C, it's impossible to get a core temperature of 12C with air cooling. What sort of thermal paste are you using? Applying a thin rectangular area of AS5 directly over the cores is working great for my idle temps. The thin line that ArcticSilver recommends on their website wasn't as effective for me.
CpuMan: If the wiki info is true, which I believe it is, then writing a utility that determines Allendale or Conroe is simple. The 3 known Allendale cores, E4300 and the new E6300 / E6400, are all reported as Revision L2 by CPU-z. The Revision B2 E6300 / E6400 are all built on the Conroe core. Mystery solved!
Why doesn't INTEL just enable the cache on the E6300 and E6400 in the first place since these aren't Allendale.
These 2meg cache E6000 series are supposed to be faded it out anyway. The 4meg cache is coming and no one is going to buy the 2meg cache version of these chips at the same price point. Not to mention overclock ability of the Conroe over Allendale. They wasted time and energy building E63-6400 allendale just so they can phase them out.
I used for the first time the Zalman ZM-STG1 paste. It came with the cooler.What sort of thermal paste are you using?