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wowolaf

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The store I bought from has a 30-day return policy, whereas newegg doesn't, afaik, and since the 22'' I was looking at was in the store, and the 20'' I could only find on newegg, I decided I'd just buy the 22'' to see how I liked it. If I didn't, no big deal, I return it to the store and order the 20'', confident that it was actually the one I wanted.

Well, I set it next to a 20'' with a P-MVA panel, and I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing.

The 20'' is definitely a little nicer, especially when it comes to viewing angles, but just doesn't seem like there's that big of a difference to me. Is just that I haven't spent enough time on LCD monitors? Or that I'm used to crappy ones?

I even got a C-panel, and really, there was nothing that screamed "I SUCK" out of the box. Blues looked blue, reds looked red, no dead pixels, etc. etc.

Some of the posts on this forum make it seem like there's a tremendous difference between the TN and the P-MVA or S-IPS, and as a fairly casual user, I just wanted to make sure before my 30 days is up that there isn't something I'm missing, or if the difference becomes more apparent over time.
 
Personally, I think they look they fine. It's true that the colors get screwy if you look straight down at the monitor, but I don't know about you, that's usually not how I watch movies.

Then again, I also can't tell a tremendous difference between the TN panels and P-MVA panels, so I may not be the guy to listen to. I can post some pictures tomorrow if you'd like.
 
Try this: set both monitors up in clone mode and watch a TV show or DVD. Pay attention to people's faces. On TN panels, when light shines on people's faces, I can easily notice inaccurate pink and yellow hues.

Blues looked blue, reds looked red
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That's not the problem with dithering. It is color gradients, shading, and smooth blending of colors that is the problem. You need to view photos, watch movies or play games to notice the problems. Edit: I played NFS: Most Wanted on a TN panel recently. When the sunlight hits the road it creates a light bloom effect. The TN panel did not have nearly enough colors in its palette to properly display this effect, and it looked very poor next to my S-PVA.

TN panel color quality has improved in the last year or so. We now have TN's that advertise 16.7 million colors. They still look bad next to a true 8-bit panel, in my opinion. But I'm picky and I know it.
 
wowolaf said:
Then again, I also can't tell a tremendous difference between the TN panels and P-MVA panels, so I may not be the guy to listen to. I can post some pictures tomorrow if you'd like.
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Pics of DVD playback, yeah go for it....:)
 
Scyles said:
TN panel color quality has improved in the last year or so. We now have TN's that advertise 16.7 million colors. They still look bad next to a true 8-bit panel, in my opinion. But I'm picky and I know it.
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Does this mean that the 26-27inch LCD HDTV's that are 8bits would make a much better PC monitor than the very best 24in TN panel?
 
i think was scyles is refering to is that a some TN's panels of late, are actually 6+2. they dither to be able to produce more colours. they are not true 16.7million colour monitors. and from what he says he can see the difference. (i cannot comment i have haven't seen them). so you would assume from that a true 8bit panel, may be better than an 6+2 panel.
 
Thanks, fuziwuzi, that is indeed what I meant. Also...

Does this mean that the 26-27inch LCD HDTV's that are 8bits would make a much better PC monitor than the very best 24in TN panel?
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There are other considerations with LCD HDTV's, such as resolution. A 26" 720p LCD TV, for example, would not make a very good PC monitor.
 
wowolaf said:
The store I bought from has a 30-day return policy, whereas newegg doesn't, afaik, and since the 22'' I was looking at was in the store, and the 20'' I could only find on newegg, I decided I'd just buy the 22'' to see how I liked it. If I didn't, no big deal, I return it to the store and order the 20'', confident that it was actually the one I wanted.

Well, I set it next to a 20'' with a P-MVA panel, and I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing.

The 20'' is definitely a little nicer, especially when it comes to viewing angles, but just doesn't seem like there's that big of a difference to me. Is just that I haven't spent enough time on LCD monitors? Or that I'm used to crappy ones?

I even got a C-panel, and really, there was nothing that screamed "I SUCK" out of the box. Blues looked blue, reds looked red, no dead pixels, etc. etc.

Some of the posts on this forum make it seem like there's a tremendous difference between the TN and the P-MVA or S-IPS, and as a fairly casual user, I just wanted to make sure before my 30 days is up that there isn't something I'm missing, or if the difference becomes more apparent over time.
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You must take into account the fact that 90% of people on this forum are extremely picky. I can relate b/c i'm the same way about sound. But Stuff like black light bleed really does not bother me at all, and I watch a lot of movies with black bars.
 
Scyles said:
Thanks, fuziwuzi, that is indeed what I meant. Also...



There are other considerations with LCD HDTV's, such as resolution. A 26" 720p LCD TV, for example, would not make a very good PC monitor.
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Apart from the sharpness of the text, what would be it's weakness compared to a 24in TN panel?
 
Well, everything would be big and blocky and you'd have far less desktop area. Imagine a 19" CRT on 800x600 resolution.
 
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