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Is dell really that good?

SirKenin said:
I don't care about Anand. He's a sold out loser. I have seen all these monitors personally, comparing up to 15 of them side by side and I still hold to the fact that BenQ is crap and their specs are wildly overstated. I can't remember where that review is on the internet, but search for the 24" widescreen reviews and you'll probably find it.

Don't bother with Anand. All he is interested in is manufacturer freebies and the almighty dollar. He has proven on many occasions that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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I would love to see any documented proof of this. But just to note Anand didn't write the review that I'm referencing although it is on Anands site. But beyond that I would love to see any postings you have of a more unbiased opinion about overall grading of LCD monitors. If you read Anands primer (actually Kubickis http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=1855 ), I think it's pretty hard to argue that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He goes over the specifics about what to look for, what different visual defects there are, how they are produced, and of course general knowledge of LCD's.

If he honestly was trying to make a buck or get more handouts, he would have tried to suck dells e-penis significantly more by making wild statements about it being the best monitor ever. But he doesn't he simply points out what is good about it, and what is bad.

Please refrain from making blanket statments especially when you don't post them with proof, or even a bunch of users opinions with the same experience. Anandtech is a very far cry from many of the episodes of THG which truly is a sold out website.
 
HvyMtl said:
1. Dell does not make its own monitors.
2. The monitors are purchased from various suppliers.
3. Most likely those suppliers are the lowest bidder.
4. In some cases, Dell will swap suppliers in mid-stream.
5. Learn WHO supplied the monitor before purchase.
6. After reviewing the supplier's own products and find them satisfactory, remember # 3, they may have had to cut some corners to meet the contracted price to make profit.
7. If the Dell deal is better than the supplier's own similar product, it is a near guarantee than # 3 and # 6 are true.
8. These "rules" do not automatically make a Dell monitor a poor deal. Just be informed.
9. These "rules" also apply to basically any accessory to the system (printers, keyboards, mice,etc.), and to their notebooks as the barebones are generally supplied by 5 or so independent manufacturers (also true for most all notebooks out there such as Compaq, HP, etc.)
I do know that some of the standard crts are made by Phillips (or their supplier) and are decent monitors.
Again just be informed in you decision, as in some cases the Dell deal is the best option and in others it is not...
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A lot of the specifics of this have already been gone over though. Yes we know they don't make their own substrate HOWEVER they do make their own builds in their own manufacturing plant. It's not like they just placed rebadged some monitor off the shelf, Dell spend time with the 2005fpw for instance with the controller and making sure that it served all the functions that they wanted to.

That said, YES they are out to make a profit, YES they are trying to make sure their profit margin is big. But that's buisness, and that's what EVERY monitor company is trying to do. Very few monitor companys actually make their own substrate, let alone controllers or bezels, that's just the nature of the beast. Do I think they always try and get the cheapest substrate? I don't think so exactly. I think that Dell now realizes that they can control the market so long as they provide a good product. Look at the XPS series of laptops for instance. No one would buy them (they are very costly) if they couldn't do everything power users want to do in a full desktop replacement laptop.

I think the same is doubly true of their new monitors, in which they are being much more aggressive about raising the quality and decreasing profit margine to increase their share of users that are using their product. It's a tried and true formula, and I think it's the plan that Dell is following. So long as their product stays top notch, I'll buy from them, but as soon as they faulter I'm gonna go buy panels from somebody else.

Look, I'm not a Dell !!!!!!, in fact really this is one of the few Dell products that I'm willing to toot their horn for, and rightfully so. But just like any smart consumer, and I'll say it again, if their quality drops, then I'm going to go to someone else for my displays, but it's hard to argue with what they're putting out now.
 
UnknownSouljer said:
I would love to see any documented proof of this. But just to note Anand didn't write the review that I'm referencing although it is on Anands site. But beyond that I would love to see any postings you have of a more unbiased opinion about overall grading of LCD monitors. If you read Anands primer (actually Kubickis http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=1855 ), I think it's pretty hard to argue that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He goes over the specifics about what to look for, what different visual defects there are, how they are produced, and of course general knowledge of LCD's.

If he honestly was trying to make a buck or get more handouts, he would have tried to suck dells e-penis significantly more by making wild statements about it being the best monitor ever. But he doesn't he simply points out what is good about it, and what is bad.

Please refrain from making blanket statments especially when you don't post them with proof, or even a bunch of users opinions with the same experience. Anandtech is a very far cry from many of the episodes of THG which truly is a sold out website.
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All this does is shows me how big of a fan you are and how little you have done your research. Anand's history goes back for years. Him and THG both. Anand's most famous lines of BS were surrounding his unadulterated pimping of nVIDIA while bashing ATi and 3DFX without any actual facts to back them up. This dates a few years and darn it all if I'm going to sit here digging up all of Anand's BS. Either you believe it or you don't because frankly I could care less what you think.
 
SirKenin said:
All this does is shows me how big of a fan you are and how little you have done your research. Anand's history goes back for years. Him and THG both. Anand's most famous lines of BS were surrounding his unadulterated pimping of nVIDIA while bashing ATi and 3DFX without any actual facts to back them up. This dates a few years and darn it all if I'm going to sit here digging up all of Anand's BS. Either you believe it or you don't because frankly I could care less what you think.
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Alright that's fine. But then you also have to realize that I'm not going to care what you think, and I would hope that other readers would do the same to yours and all other unqualified statements.

But it gives rise to the question anyway, if you don't care what I think, why respond at all or care about contributing information at all?
 
UnknownSouljer said:
Alright that's fine. But then you also have to realize that I'm not going to care what you think, and I would hope that other readers would do the same to yours and all other unqualified statements.
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Readers that actually know what they are talking about will have already done their research so that I won't have to do it for them... And those that haven't, like you, well.... Oh well.
 
I dunno what's all this hoopla all about. If u like dell lcds, u buy them and enjoy, if u don't, don't bother trying. The only way to know is to try, rather than keeping this pointless argument b/n those who own Dells and those who didn't spend any time with one but still want to show an opinion about'em. Reviews don't mean jack, what matters is ur own experience.

On related note, BF2 hands-on was showcased on Dell 2001fps :D

check it out here - near the begginging of one of the gameplay videos u'll see a lan setup, all 2001fps :D

http://www.gamershell.com/news/21950.html
 
The way I see it, Dell has become a major seller of computer parts. Like someone already said, they're like a technology walmart.

Do they always have the best quality? Not always.
Does their quality satisfy the average Joe? Usually, the average joe can't tell the difference.
Do they know how to drive down prices? A resounding "YES".

Plain and simple - if you don't like their products or their quality control, pay a higher price from somewhere else. I compare it to shopping at walmart vs. nordstrom or macy's.

Personally, I think they're great and would never have bought LCD screens if it weren't for their price point. I've owned the 1701fp, 2000fp, 2001fp, and now 2405fp and only had one screen break (a 2000fp). However, it was still under warranty, and they even upgraded my model on the replacement (took 3 days). Yah, the customer service call took an hour, but when I finally got through, it was worth it. Not too many other manufactuer's are giving out 3 year warranties these days for their screens. Just something else to think about.
 
Amen Blue Knight. I too once hated the word "Dell", but after paying $599 CAD for a 2005FPW and witnessing the beauty (and not paying $1400 CAD for the comparative Apple LCD), and playing with all of the features, that big stamped "DELL" logo on the screen doesn't bother me as much. And to top it all off, I like the no-frills design!
 
Icheb said:
They fixed a lot of the problems they had with the 2005FPW when making the 2405FPW. If you really read that thread you would know everyone loves it ;) .
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Quoted for truth.

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Dells customer service and return policy can't be beat by anyone and thats one of the big selling points for me.

The 2005FPW and 2001FP are both absolute steals when you compare the prices of other LCD's of the same size and quality.
 
While i'm no talking about the 2005FPW and 2405FPW, i do have a first-hand experience with a very big batch of 1705FP screens for our project at work (around 100 screens) and out of the lot, only 1 is DOA and 3 has bad pixels... Rest is flawless.

That is the same for anything and defects slip off from time to time. As long as this is kept in a reasonable rate, i would tell that Dell is a good brand to get, with great prices.

Myself, i would get the 2005FPW if i get the money without worrying about quality. As others said, keep in mind that on LCD panels, only a few actually manufacture them and sell to a few companies for packaging and branding.
 
I got a perfect 2001FP last autum and loved it.

Got a 2405 FP for $899 with one stuck red pixel in the middle.

Got a replacement new 2405 FP for $0 after about an hour of talking to india. New one is perfect.

I am extremely happy with both of the monitors I have from Dell. I am very happy with their return policy, customer guarantee, and price/quality ratio.
 
well i got my 2405 replaced with a refurb, not that i mind. their service is top notch though...it came to my house in 2 days! and the pick up for my old one was a cinch, i called dhl and they were here in 2 hours for the free return
 
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