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2gigs

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i was gonna get measurements for a ln2 tube, and i saw my one x800xl is a x800 pro that was flashed, and also, you have to zoom in to see



ps, i did chop out the serial numbers



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Maybe you should crop and resize the pics.
 
you do realise the chips are eaxctly the same........ the only diffrence is the laser cutting on the chip.
Oh and OFFICAL BBA(Built By ATi) ATi x800 Pros (not AIB/OEM ones) are also laser cut pipelines, which means that if your crusing along at 16 pipelines,
then its an uncut core which means it was just over stock chip.(ie they ran out of labeled xl chips so they used not yet cut pro chips as there the eaxct same thing, before cut of course)

Basicly you got choclete milk in a while milk container with chocate milk labels stuck on it, you still got chocate milk, it was just in a white milk container because the factory ran out of offical chocate milk containers.
 
R430 is used in the 800xl among other models, 800pro is using a cuted R420.

And you got a 430 core, so whats the problem :confused:
 
Basicly you got choclete milk in a while milk container with chocate milk labels stuck on it, you still got chocate milk, it was just in a white milk container because the factory ran out of offical chocate milk containers.
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i so want to use that in a sig
 
So what exactly could someone do if they had your serial number?
 
lozaning said:
sell them on ebay to someone in the market for them
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That doesn't really tell me anything.

Lemme ask again, let's assume someone bought the serial number on ebay, then what could they do with them?
 
also, it runs for crap, i mean, its very artifacty, always has been, i thought it was just ati being ati with it
 
2gigs said:
also, it runs for crap, i mean, its very artifacty, always has been, i thought it was just ati being ati with it
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Why havent you sent it back if it doesnt #@!$@#% work?
 
2gigs said:
becuase i thought it was runniog like a normal ati card,
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LOL... youve got to be kidding me. You thought that because it was ATI it is supose to artifact and be messed up? Is this thread really a bash on ATI? Is there some type of joke I missed... what? Im confused. :rolleyes:

Thats like saying you bought a brand new car and its leaking 2 quarts of oil a day... but its a GM product so thats normal.
 
hey dont jump on gm,


my friend said its normal for ati cards to be jumpy, and i think its gotten so bad, as ion it kept getting worse,

p.s. this card scoredm 9k in 3d06

p.s.

ive never had a ati card before
 
you're X800XL did NOT score 9k in 3DMark06.

and also, just becuase you obviously don't know jack about video cards, doesn't mean that ATI is the fault for artifacting.
 
2gigs said:
hey dont jump on gm,


my friend said its normal for ati cards to be jumpy, and i think its gotten so bad, as ion it kept getting worse,

p.s. this card scoredm 9k in 3d06

p.s.

ive never had a ati card before
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No way it got 9k in 06....

And tell your friend he has the wit of a oft Gerbil.
 
well one thing I needed the serial # for was to register at the eVGA site so they could send me the free COD2 dvd
 
I would be happy with an extra pipeline quad... I am not sure how ATI is jipping you. seems you are getting MORE.
 
2gigs said:
dude, i bought a xl, not a pro, i paid for one too
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OK!!! Listen up. Here's the issue.

You bought an XL. Guess what? You got one! That's what everyone's been trying to say so far...

The CPU will say "X800PRO" on it because the chip in the X800XL is the same as in the PRO. It is architectural differences (like pipes) that separate the cards.

Also, just because it's an ATI card doesn't mean it should be jumpy or artifact. Tell your friend he's wrong. No normal card, ATI or nVidia, should act like that. It might be time to RMA if that's the case. I've used 5 ATI cards since 1999 and not one of them has artifacted on me... EVER.
 
There's a big difference between R430 and R423...R423 is 130nm low-k and R430 is 110nm...R423 clocks MUCH higher than R430, that's why it was used to make X800 pros which run at 475 Mhz.

That is absolutely the correct chip for an X800XL...you haven't gotten ripped off at all...it is kinda curious that it's labeled x800pro though...perhaps ATi wanted to make x800pros from R430 but realized they can't? Which doesn't make much sense, they had plenty of time to figure that out...in which case it could have just been mislabeled...which is equally as strange...

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=50&card2=301
 
Chilly said:
Basicly you got choclete milk in a while milk container with chocate milk labels stuck on it, you still got chocate milk, it was just in a white milk container because the factory ran out of offical chocate milk containers.
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It has been a long time since I have loled so loud.
 
The cores used in the X800 pros clocked much higher than the XL cores, I wouldn't be complaining.
 
RMA the card please.. Then go buy a Nvidia TNT2.. It seems to be about your speed.. :D

In all seriuosness RMA the card.. Or try to reseat the card and re-install drivers first.. Maybe see if your psu is up to snuff.. Alot of oem systems ship with the absolute minimum psu they can get away with, and adding anything that draws a bit more power than the machine did when it was shipped can lead to problems.. And forget what your pal says, he/she/it is obviously uninformed..
 
yeah, i have 2 7800s in my main rig, and i did reseat it, and i its a pain. I may rma it to be honost.
 
I have an x800xl too... basically, what it is, is an x800 pro vivo card, that has had it's pipes unlocked, and OC'd a bit and used on the PCI-E bus

here's a good pic of my core...
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i hope this clears alot up....
 
PWMK2 said:
OK!!! Listen up. Here's the issue.

You bought an XL. Guess what? You got one! That's what everyone's been trying to say so far...

The CPU will say "X800PRO" on it because the chip in the X800XL is the same as in the PRO. It is architectural differences (like pipes) that separate the cards.

Also, just because it's an ATI card doesn't mean it should be jumpy or artifact. Tell your friend he's wrong. No normal card, ATI or nVidia, should act like that. It might be time to RMA if that's the case. I've used 5 ATI cards since 1999 and not one of them has artifacted on me... EVER.
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QFT


I have owned many ATI and Nvidia cards and NONE of them have been jumpy or Aritfacted. Minus the Leadtek 6800LE, which I later found out most of leadteks line of those had bad memory. A quick RMA fixed that very quick.
 
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