Is 1080P future proof?

"Future proof" implies you won't need any new hardware in the near future to accommodate software/content.

In that respect Yes 1080p displays are very future proof. In the home theater crowd no one cares about displays with 1080p+ natives. Maybe in the crowd that spends $20K on a display... Upscaling from 1080p to anything higher is far from common. The hardware do it is not widely available and very very expensive.
1080p content is just becoming available and definitely not mainstream, yet. HD broadcasts OTA and cable are 720p or 1080i, atleast in my area.

So definitely Yes. There won't be any media that can take advantage of anything more than 1080p for awhile.

There are niche categories that can/will take advantage of ultra high res displays, but only for PCs. Namely once a HD/BR-DVD plugin thats compatible with Zoom player comes out you can use something like ffdshow to do postprocessing as well as upscale the 1080p media to whatever you want. The amount of people that will do that is very slim.
 
I'm holding out until the 2120p TVs. No use in buying all this junk before that comes out. Then there are the phasor HDTVs which will make the laser TVs obsolete after they are introduced next year.
 
Has any HD type content even been announced that supports over 1080p? Only thing I can think of that would even remotely take advantage of that high resolution would be PC games.
 
J-Mag said:
Has any HD type content even been announced that supports over 1080p? Only thing I can think of that would even remotely take advantage of that high resolution would be PC games.
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Even if it was announced how long would you wait? Greenwit's sarcasm is very appropriate. There will always be something better coming out. At some point in the future there will be something higher than 1080p. Even if it was a year from now I'd still buy a 1080p display now. Just wouldn't get a 2nd mortgage for it. Thats not the case anyways. If some 1440p content was announced today, it wouldn't hit the shelves for years. How long have we known HD/BR-DVD to be in the works? How many movies other than Batman Returns is worth watching and on the shelves?
 
jamesavery22 said:
Even if it was announced how long would you wait? Greenwit's sarcasm is very appropriate. There will always be something better coming out. At some point in the future there will be something higher than 1080p. Even if it was a year from now I'd still buy a 1080p display now. Just wouldn't get a 2nd mortgage for it. Thats not the case anyways. If some 1440p content was announced today, it wouldn't hit the shelves for years. How long have we known HD/BR-DVD to be in the works? How many movies other than Batman Returns is worth watching and on the shelves?
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Yeah don't get me wrong, I am not really even hyped up with current HD 1080p content and I never buy anything to "futureproof".
 
J-Mag said:
Yeah don't get me wrong, I am not really even hyped up with current HD 1080p content and I never buy anything to "futureproof".
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you :) Was just a general rant not aimed at anyone.
 
(sarcasm)

I have a 4X6' display at home that is waaaay beyond 1080P.

I call it my Window.

I agree that there will continually be some improvement, more colors, higher Def, and bigger displays.

I can't wait for the Wormhole display that just bends light to show you the Actual location you want to see. :) NO compression, no bandwidth.
 
For movies, it will probably be 10+ years before there is source material beyond 1080p which is already challenging master recordings, you get into the area of diminishing returns more high resolution view of film grain? There was a test where the measured resolution in movie theaters. Almost all were less than 1080p.

The current generation of digital movie cameras are 1080 resolution.

Actually it will be years before 1080 fully catches on. So if you are talking about movies, you will be long tired of your display before there are movies/video to play on it at greater than 1080p.

If you are talking general resolution, 1080p is already old school. You can buy 1600p today (30inch monitors).
 
I will believe that better resolutions will come only after 10-20 years. 1080p is very demanding on the bandwidth, storage and infrastructure. We've held on the old shit analog broadcasting for over 50 years so we can survive some time till the technology is around to support higher resolutions.
 
twenty years ago we were on commodores....

it will be only several years before resolutions increase. Think about what you're saying, twenty years in the electronics industry is a ridiculous amount of time.
 
Snowdog said:
For movies, it will probably be 10+ years before there is source material beyond 1080p which is already challenging master recordings, you get into the area of diminishing returns more high resolution view of film grain? There was a test where the measured resolution in movie theaters. Almost all were less than 1080p.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Or where you're getting your facts. But movies on HQ film can be scanned at resolutions up to 4000+ lines horizontal.

Furthermore, a projector whose resolution is <1080p will look worse than SD in a movie theater. Please show me this 'test' of yours.


With BR and HD-DVD out, 1080p will become a standard far quicker than you guys think it will. Considering that DirecTV already broadcasts in 1080i and still have room for 1080p. It's only a matter of time before the TV cameras start recording in 1080p.
 
rayman2k2 said:
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Or where you're getting your facts. But movies on HQ film can be scanned at resolutions up to 4000+ lines horizontal.

Furthermore, a projector whose resolution is <1080p will look worse than SD in a movie theater. Please show me this 'test' of yours.
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You can scan anything you want, but it doesn't actually mean there is detail.

Film distribution copies and theater were tested and they were all under 1080p. Actually most where under 720p. That is part of the reason digital theaters can look good at only 1080p. Original master are better, but not the distribution copies that are sent out.
http://www.etconsult.com/papers/Technical Issues in Cinema Resolution.pdf

Another reference:
The highest resolution seen 875lp/h, well under 1080p. The average was under 720p.
http://www.cst.fr/article.php3?id_article=160


BTW: All digital cinemas are only 2048x1080. Essentially 1080p. There are plans to intro 2160P to digital cinema (AKA 4K), but none are deployed. Digitial cinema 4K should be amazing to see if they actually find source material that comes even close to delivering on that resolution.

No one should worry about 1080p being a limit at home, they have likely never seen better in a theater. Real 1080P at home should be better than your local cinema.
 
There really is no such thing as "future proof" when it comes to technology. Even if you had a time machine and went forward 10 years and bought the latest, greatest tv to bring back to 2006.....it would only be "good" for about 10 years. ;)
 
Greenwit said:
I'm holding out until the 2120p TVs. No use in buying all this junk before that comes out. Then there are the phasor HDTVs which will make the laser TVs obsolete after they are introduced next year.
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That's Phaser HDTV's not Phasor :rolleyes:

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Phaser If you turn up the contrast or brightness too much, you'll get vaporized.
 
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