iPhone Too Expensive?

[InorganicMatter]

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That is an extremely unfair comparison. You are comparing a very expensive ultra-portable gaming machine to a bottom-end Macbook Pro. Let's take a fair comparison:

Dell Inspiron 1505 versus Macbook Pro

Both are identically configured with two exceptions: the Dell has a higher resolution screen, and the Macbook has 133MHz more processor (2.0GHz is the highest Dell offers). Prices? Read and weep:

MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.16GHz - $2,174
E1505 Dual Core - $1,336.00

Almost double the price. Not quite, but almost. Given, the "2x" number was an exaggeration to make this point, but a 62% price gap for the exact same specs is a RIDICULOUS markup.

 

[FLECOM]

anyway, i would not buy an iphone becuase it is only EDGE, which makes no sence since cinger/att/whatever they are this week has an HSDPA network

 

[InorganicMatter]

anyway, i would not buy an iphone becuase it is only EDGE, which makes no sence since cinger/att/whatever they are this week has an HSDPA network

Exactly. Next to price, EDGE is the other reason you won't see me dead with an iPhone. I simply refuse to spend $600 on last decade's technology. At the very least, this device should be using the CDMA network.

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

That is an extremely unfair comparison. You are comparing a very expensive ultra-portable gaming machine to a bottom-end Macbook Pro. Let's take a fair comparison:

Dell Inspiron 1505 versus Macbook Pro

Both are identically configured with two exceptions: the Dell has a higher resolution screen, and the Macbook has 133MHz more processor (2.0GHz is the highest Dell offers). Prices? Read and weep:

MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.16GHz - $2,174
E1505 Dual Core - $1,336.00

Almost double the price. Not quite, but almost. Given, the "2x" number was an exaggeration to make this point, but a 62% price gap for the exact same specs is a RIDICULOUS markup.

Exactly, He (nilepez) is comparing a MUCH higher end dell to the macbook pro, and it's STILL cheaper.

 

[nilepez]

That is an extremely unfair comparison. You are comparing a very expensive ultra-portable gaming machine to a bottom-end Macbook Pro. Let's take a fair comparison:

Dell Inspiron 1505 versus Macbook Pro

Both are identically configured with two exceptions: the Dell has a higher resolution screen, and the Macbook has 133MHz more processor (2.0GHz is the highest Dell offers). Prices? Read and weep:

MacBook Pro, 15-inch, 2.16GHz - $2,174
E1505 Dual Core - $1,336.00

Almost double the price. Not quite, but almost. Given, the "2x" number was an exaggeration to make this point, but a 62% price gap for the exact same specs is a RIDICULOUS markup.

Is it double? no it is not. Did I ever say that macs are cheaper? No I did not. I chose the smaller one, because it was the cheapest base price and I suspected the video card was closer to the x1600 than the other ones.

The fact that you've found a cheaper one is fine, but it doesn't alter the fact taht my original comment that it was an exaggeration to say that Macs cost 2x as much (especially on desktops, which is what I was specifically referring to) was correct.

It was Cyberdoll that decided to comment on an afterthought about a comparision I did a long time ago (roughly a year ago).

 

[InorganicMatter]

The fact that you've found a cheaper one is fine, but it doesn't alter the fact taht my original comment that it was an exaggeration to say that Macs cost 2x as much (especially on desktops, which is what I was specifically referring to) was correct.

We know it was exaggerated. Its a component of the English language called a "hyperbole," it is a deliberate exaggeration used to drive a point home. So for example, when the poster above said "Macs cost 2x a comparable PC," he didn't mean they literally cost two times a comparable PC, he meant that Macs are highly overpriced relative to PCs. Get it?

 

[nilepez]

We know it was exaggerated. Its a component of the English language called a "hyperbole," it is a deliberate exaggeration used to drive a point home. So for example, when the poster above said "Macs cost 2x a comparable PC," he didn't mean they literally cost two times a comparable PC, he meant that Macs are highly overpriced relative to PCs. Get it?

I understand hyperbole, but waldo was not using hyperbole. He was just overstating the price of a mac. Heck, he added $300.00 for shipping/taxes, which is almost twice as much as a state with 8% sales tax pays (shipping is free).

It doesn't really matter. It's not like anyone in this debate are likely to buy an iPhone or a Mac.

 

[tickle_me_emo]

We know it was exaggerated. Its a component of the English language called a "hyperbole," it is a deliberate exaggeration used to drive a point home. So for example, when the poster above said "Macs cost 2x a comparable PC," he didn't mean they literally cost two times a comparable PC, he meant that Macs are highly overpriced relative to PCs. Get it?

copout?

 

[Joves]

I understand hyperbole, but waldo was not using hyperbole. He was just overstating the price of a mac. Heck, he added $300.00 for shipping/taxes, which is almost twice as much as a state with 8% sales tax pays (shipping is free).

It doesn't really matter. It's not like anyone in this debate are likely to buy an iPhone or a Mac.

No he is just making an example. Personally All I want is a phone, a plain ass phone. They dont make them anymore. I see anything over $100 as rdiculous.

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

Is it double? no it is not. Did I ever say that macs are cheaper? No I did not. I chose the smaller one, because it was the cheapest base price and I suspected the video card was closer to the x1600 than the other ones.

The fact that you've found a cheaper one is fine, but it doesn't alter the fact taht my original comment that it was an exaggeration to say that Macs cost 2x as much (especially on desktops, which is what I was specifically referring to) was correct.

It was Cyberdoll that decided to comment on an afterthought about a comparision I did a long time ago (roughly a year ago).

Your statement was just made

I showed you a similair system (but with a lesser processor)
That cost ~ 39% of the price of the apple. You didn't like that

I showed you similair systems from hp & dell (and in some ways, SUPERIOR systems) that were 52, 53, and 57% of the price of the apple. You didn't like that.

So, you counter with a system that is FAR SUPERIOR to the apple machine, that STILL costs less than the apple.

You are obviously one of the brainwashed, apple toting sheep. Who will not accept that there are BETTER products that cost LESS money, simply because those products are from companies not named after a fruit.

 

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

One more statement from me, then I'm leaving this thread.

I OWN two macs!

1) a mini. Only because it is smaller than any htpc I could build personally. Yes, cappuccinoPC offers small machines, but I do not like the specs/designs they offer. In this usage that this computer is for, the macmini happens to be the champ.

2) A tower. For one application only. FCP. THe day FCP comes to the pc platform, my OVERPRICED mac tower will be for sale.

Do I use FCP? No. I have clients who do, and I need interoperability with them.

 

[nilepez]

Your statement was just made

I showed you a similair system (but with a lesser processor)
That cost ~ 39% of the price of the apple. You didn't like that

I showed you similair systems from hp & dell (and in some ways, SUPERIOR systems) that were 52, 53, and 57% of the price of the apple. You didn't like that.

So, you counter with a system that is FAR SUPERIOR to the apple machine, that STILL costs less than the apple.

You are obviously one of the brainwashed, apple toting sheep. Who will not accept that there are BETTER products that cost LESS money, simply because those products are from companies not named after a fruit.

You thought it was superior. I thought it was inferior. I don't consider a 12" screen with lower res graphics superior. The graphics cards, ram, HD and virtually evertyhing else was the same. I don't see that as superior. You do. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Bottom line was I wasn't talking about laptops. i was talking about desktops, and I said that. My comment on laptops was an afterthought about a comprarison I made a year earlier. And for the record, that was to take Walt Mossberg (wall street journal) to task over his statement that Macs were as cheap as a PC.