iPhone 8 Plus Reportedly Splits Open While Charging

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A Taiwanese iPhone 8 Plus owner has claimed that her device split open while being charged with the supplied cable and plug adapter, posting photos that show damage consistent with a swollen battery. Other iPhone 8 Plus owners have reported experiencing similar issues: one Japanese owner claims his phone arrived in a comparable state, with the screen visibly detached from the body.

So far, the finger of blame is being pointed at the battery. Unconfirmed reports state the iPhone 8 Plus uses the same battery manufacturer, Amperex Technology Limited (ATL), as the Samsung Galaxy Note 7. But it’s worth remembering a couple of things. Firstly, many of the details surrounding this incident are hazy and unconfirmed. Take them with a grain of salt. Most of all, it’s worth remembering that even if the reports are true, they aren’t necessarily indicative of a trend. It could easily be a manufacturing flaw with a couple of individual devices.
 
Let us see how common this actually is. One or two or even a handful of defective batteries is not cause for panic. If it gets to be dozens or hundreds of defective batteries then we will have an issue.
 
How many confirmed cases of exploding Note 7 batteries were there? Wasn't it only something like 60?
 
S-F said:
How many confirmed cases of exploding Note 7 batteries were there? Wasn't it only something like 60?
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Something like that. But, there is a difference in how fast you go about recalling busted phones that do not damage anything else, and ones that can burn your house down.
 
They should know that excess electrons squash the holes, squeezing out more electrons causing exponential growth.
See what happens when you charge it too long, tut.
Much longer and it will start to emit lightning, you have been warned!
 
Gorankar said:
Something like that. But, there is a difference in how fast you go about recalling busted phones that do not damage anything else, and ones that can burn your house down.
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A swollen battery is very close to catching on fire
 
tunatime said:
A swollen battery is very close to catching on fire
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I know, but until they actually do catch fire or the numbers of bad phones reaches the hundreds, if not thousands, Apple will not be under much pressure to do more than replace damaged phones and try to prevent the issue going forward. Knowing Apple, the fix will be something stupid like slowing down the charge rate or the like.
 
Apple : 'You`re charging it wrong'


Apple deserves a 'Note 7' fiasco, badly.
 
Gorankar said:
I know, but until they actually do catch fire or the numbers of bad phones reaches the hundreds, if not thousands, Apple will not be under much pressure to do more than replace damaged phones and try to prevent the issue going forward. Knowing Apple, the fix will be something stupid like slowing down the charge rate or the like.
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But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
 
Exavior said:
But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
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That's not what he said. He said either an equal number of explosive phones OR significantly more battery bulge phones. One is much more of a hazard than the other.
 
Yeah lmk when it's more widespread. Not really convinced it's a widespread issue with one video
 
Exavior said:
But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
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I am not downplaying it at all. If they are not burning anything down, or anyone up, they simply will not be under much pressure to do anything past replace phones until the numbers of bad phones gets up there.

Trust me, I am not Apple fan. Prefer the Note series myself. Especially if I can get a vanilla rom for it.
 
This is a defect. There's always a percentage of defects in any human manufactured electronic. Even brand new.
 
Lol one unconfirmed case and people are comparing it to the Note 7.

The Note 7 got unreasonably hot, even in units that didn't blow up. It was a train wreck in the making. I'll wait for more stories to arise before I start declaring it a dud.

Although it is funny it has batteries from the same company that supplied the Note 7. Wasn't the Notes demised cause by initial pressure applied during the manufacturing?
 
Gorankar said:
I am not downplaying it at all. If they are not burning anything down, or anyone up, they simply will not be under much pressure to do anything past replace phones until the numbers of bad phones gets up there.

Trust me, I am not Apple fan. Prefer the Note series myself. Especially if I can get a vanilla rom for it.
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ok, sorry for misunderstanding your post. Yes, they would need to actually get to the point of fire and damage to be considered the same level of unsafe.

Trimlock said:
Lol one unconfirmed case and people are comparing it to the Note 7.

The Note 7 got unreasonably hot, even in units that didn't blow up. It was a train wreck in the making. I'll wait for more stories to arise before I start declaring it a dud.

Although it is funny it has batteries from the same company that supplied the Note 7. Wasn't the Notes demised cause by initial pressure applied during the manufacturing?
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It is more the point that there we have what people considered a train wreck of a phone launch. Right at launch people started to have phones burst and catch fire. Here at launch people are starting to have phones burst. Exact same issue, no, but it is a very similar type of issue which is something to starting watching now that we know how bad it can get. And yes it was manufacturing related. In order to make the phone slimmer and smaller they removed the extra space around the battery so that they could fit in the electronics. Do we know if apple might have also reduced the spacing a little?
 
That doesn't surprise me. Bad batteries can do that, as well as charging a Lithium ion battery in hot conditions. This happened to my Xperia Z3 when I was charging it on the dash of my car. While I had the A/C on, the dash was still pretty hot, and it caused the battery failure. I bought a case that held it together until I could replace it.
 
Exavior said:
But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
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I was against Samsung's decision to remotely disable users phones who decided not to turn them in. I do not think that should have been legally allowed.

(He wasn't quoting me, I'm just adding my opinion)
 
This is an intended feature! This way you can actually see how much better it is than everyone else. Look hard enough and you can actually watch all your personal info and money go straight to Apple.
 
Exavior said:
But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
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as I recall samsungs issue was a bit different. I dont know what makes a battery bulge, but with samsung the thin layers separating each terminal of the battery were so minuscule that it would short out causing a fire. A swollen battery is a different issue all together, something apple can get away with just making spot repairs instead of a full blown recall.
 
nysmo said:
as I recall samsungs issue was a bit different. I dont know what makes a battery bulge, but with samsung the thin layers separating each terminal of the battery were so minuscule that it would short out causing a fire. A swollen battery is a different issue all together, something apple can get away with just making spot repairs instead of a full blown recall.
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it is a similar thing that causes a budge. Something inside the battery overheats or shorts out and starts to expand as it then produces a gas from the materials inside taking up more space. That was the starting point of the Note 7. The battery would expand, however they gave it no room to expand any either by normal use or with a slight malfunction and as a result it caused the issue to get worse and start a chain reaction that resulted in the fire. If the front of the iPhone wasn't popping off like they are you wouldn't most likely have a similar issue.
 
Exavior said:
But you are then trying to greatly downplay when it happens with one company vs another.

There were under 100 reported cases when Samsung was forced to recall them. But you are saying that Apple should be allowed to have hundreds or thousands of phones doing the exact same thing before they are forced to have a recall?
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Here's the thing. When the shit hit the fan for samsung, multiple third parties had dissected it and determined that if you believed the battery manufacturer specs for the normal swelling and shrinking of the cell, the design of the 7 was going to cause serious issues for a NORMAL battery in NORMAL operation.

The iphones depicted seems to be going into a fairly safe failure state due to a battery that is defective. The samsung was looking at potentially a 100% catastrophic failure rate over time due to design. The iphone seems to be mitigating the risk in how the chassis responds to a bum battery. The math comes out totally different with regards to how much of a threat the device poses as a whole. It shouldn't be ignored, but it is entirely possible that this is limited, or the result of shady third party practices/cheap customers. no lithim based battery has 0% failure rate. A good battery manufacturer tries to keep the rate very low, and keep the failure mode to simple swelling, rather than trying to torch the place.
 
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