iPhone 6S Plus Vs. Galaxy Note 5 Speed Test

What does it need "better" hardware for? It's arguably the fastest phone available for actual use, seems like that have that hardware designed to perform and not fill out a spec sheet.
 
ocellaris said:
What does it need "better" hardware for? It's arguably the fastest phone available for actual use, seems like Apple made hardware designed to perform instead of filling out a spec sheet.
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Fixed numerous typos, damn no edits for Front Page News.
 
Nice to see an actual test based on using the phone and not on artificial benchmark numbers.
 
ocellaris said:
What does it need "better" hardware for? It's arguably the fastest phone available for actual use, seems like that have that hardware designed to perform and not fill out a spec sheet.
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If it were a little thicker with a bigger battery, with less conservative clocks, it could present in practice what it does in benchmarks. Benches have iPhones rape-stomping everything, but not so much in actual use. They still have dopey animations and placeholders all over the place covering up slowness.
 
Cbone said:
If it were a little thicker with a bigger battery, with less conservative clocks, it could present in practice what it does in benchmarks. Benches have iPhones rape-stomping everything, but not so much in actual use. They still have dopey animations and placeholders all over the place covering up slowness.
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Yet here in a practical use test and not a benchmark where samsung and apple can enable super speed apple wins. In practice my iPhone 6 has been great and now I am so tempted to get the 6S because of the ram. I dont have too many apps having to reload but it seems the ram increase on the 6S might make this issue history. This video also shows exactly the reason why the Note 3 was my last phone from Samsung, they reduced bloat and increased ram yet still have problems with memory.
 
I can categorically say I've never used any cell phone in any way near as depicted in that supposed "real world" test.
 
Tyler-Durden said:
I can categorically say I've never used any cell phone in any way near as depicted in that supposed "real world" test.
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PCs aren't used like they are in benchmarks either, but people benchmark them anyway.
To me what it showed was there's an issue with the Note's memory management. For me, UI aside, what I like about Apple vs the Android devices I've used (not sure about MS devices) is that even if you reboot, your programs are still open in the background. That's especially nice if there's a ninja reboot (yup, iOS can crash too), because you lose nothing.

I'm surprised Samsung hasn't copied that functionality. My first iPhone was the 4s and it had it, so that's at least 4 years ago.
 
I've been playing around with a 6s at work (iOS developer). It's nice. I don't have the 6s Plus yet, so can't comment on it.

The extra ram is very noticeable compared to my iPhone 6 I use (personal device). I also like the new "3d touch" - I thought it was going to be a total gimmick, but once you started using it, the little short cuts make the experience a lot more stream-lined (especially for the camera app).

Battery life on the 6s seems to be on par with my 6.

I'm not going to upgrade from the 6 - nice, but not worth the extra money to me.

I've also used the latest Samung Edge phones. They seem pretty quick and responsive for the time I've used them. The benchmark in the video is questionable for its usefulness.

I'd be more interested in battery life!
 
mi7chy said:
This is like comparing Windows 3.1 (iOS) to Windows 10 (Android).

iOS doesn't background multitask like Android. iOS suspends apps in the background then kills it after three minutes (down from 7 minutes for iOS 6 and older).

http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
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As expected, you show up and talk shit about Apple again! :p

Just FYI, as someone who code for mobile, ever since iOS 7, it doesn't permanently suspended the app after certain amount of time. It has a periodic cycle as the developer set it to be waking up if needed. It can also be use to wake up from a push notification. It's far better system than abusing as service hanging in the background leeching on RAM / battery. This is also the reason why iOS always have better idle battery life than Android.

If the App is something related to location service, VoIP, or other background required app, iOS does allow you to run all the time until you force terminate it from task. It's the Info.plist that you can just add it in..... :D
 
nilepez said:
PCs aren't used like they are in benchmarks either, but people benchmark them anyway.
To me what it showed was there's an issue with the Note's memory management. For me, UI aside, what I like about Apple vs the Android devices I've used (not sure about MS devices) is that even if you reboot, your programs are still open in the background. That's especially nice if there's a ninja reboot (yup, iOS can crash too), because you lose nothing.

I'm surprised Samsung hasn't copied that functionality. My first iPhone was the 4s and it had it, so that's at least 4 years ago.
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Funny how that came up. I just did it on this galaxy s6. Restarted, clicked the recents button and all my crap was still there.
 
Can we just agree the test method is just retarded? Randomly opening applications isn't a test for a lot of good reasons. Also both phones are crap cause neither comes with a SD Card slot.
 
Ashbringer said:
Can we just agree the test method is just retarded? Randomly opening applications isn't a test for a lot of good reasons. Also both phones are crap cause neither comes with a SD Card slot.
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I dont open apps like the video all day but sometimes I do have to switch constantly between apps and its useful enough not to have every app reloading all the time. Though I think its just a Samsung thing because my Z2 doesnt exhibit that problem but it is slower than the Note 5 overall of course.
 
Ashbringer said:
Can we just agree the test method is just retarded? Randomly opening applications isn't a test for a lot of good reasons. Also both phones are crap cause neither comes with a SD Card slot.
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Most future phones will likely be crap, because devices with SD slots have been shrinking for years. I'd be happy to have them, but that's not the way it's going. I suspect part of it is that phones now come with enough storage that most don't need an SD card. Another issue is losing micro SD cards.
 
Problem with Android phones is rather than suspending in the background like IOS it still runs, Samsung task kill them pretty relentlessly on their devices. On my GS6 i may leave a game running in the background come back to see my battery nearly depleted after a few hours cause i didn't exit it/task killed it. After 4 apps/programs Samsung touchwiz starts closing programs down.
 
nilepez said:
Most future phones will likely be crap, because devices with SD slots have been shrinking for years. I'd be happy to have them, but that's not the way it's going. I suspect part of it is that phones now come with enough storage that most don't need an SD card. Another issue is losing micro SD cards.
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Except not really. They are still basing the baseline model off 16 GB, and absolutely RAPING you to upgrade to a higher level of storage. So storage has really gone nowhere in the last 6-8 years.
 
Evil_SPanKY said:
Except not really. They are still basing the baseline model off 16 GB, and absolutely RAPING you to upgrade to a higher level of storage. So storage has really gone nowhere in the last 6-8 years.
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The only android phone I've ever owned had a SD slot. Too bad most apps couldn't utilise it so it was pretty much useless. I prefer the iPhone way where you can use iTunes to stock up the stuff you need automatically to the available space.

I can carry my entire music library in the 16 gigs.
 
android sucks at memory management as well.

I have 1gb ram in my android phone, and it's always running out of memory for simple tasks like using chrome.
 
My speed and usability test is more basic. 1)Does it do what I need without any hitches or restrictions?
2) does it have a replaceable battery?

If the answer is yes to both of those, I'm perfectly happy. If not, I don't really give a damn about anything else.
 
I Love my Note 5. It is an upgrade from the Galaxy S4 for me. For my use, I never came anywhere close to filling up the 64gb SD card I installed in my S4 since most apps won't let you use the SD card to install the application. I pretty much used it to hold photos and music. Now though, I purchased the 64gb Note 5 and with all my apps I use, and music, I still have 41gb free space for photos or whatever...Removable battery isn't a problem for me since I never removed the battery in the S4, I always have a place to charge or an external battery close by at all times.
 
nilepez said:
Most future phones will likely be crap, because devices with SD slots have been shrinking for years. I'd be happy to have them, but that's not the way it's going. I suspect part of it is that phones now come with enough storage that most don't need an SD card. Another issue is losing micro SD cards.
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For me the Asus Zenfone 2 is the better phone cause it's cheap and has a SD Card slot. Most name brand phones are removing the SD Card slot, but there's always that growing Chinese knock off market.

In fact I had a friend who wanted me to find a Verizon compatible phone to use. The old phone was dropped in the toilet and they didn't want to spend a lot of money for a new phone. Had to be cheap so the first phone I looked at is the Motorola Moto G which isn't bad but no SD Card slot. Alternatively this Chinese Android phone is 5" and has SD Card slot. The screen is lower in resolution, has a mediatek CPU, and probably won't see Lollipop without a community to provide a custom rom.

If the Asus Zenfone 2 wasn't such a great deal I could always go for this Chinese 8-Core. I'm on T-Mobile.
 
B00nie said:
The only android phone I've ever owned had a SD slot. Too bad most apps couldn't utilise it so it was pretty much useless.
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That's the retarded thing about Android in that you can't utilize the SD Card as much as you want. Though you can move apps to it but it's not like I can specifically install the app first on the SD Card.
 
dr.kevin said:
android sucks at memory management as well.

I have 1gb ram in my android phone, and it's always running out of memory for simple tasks like using chrome.
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Is there an iOS device that can hold 50 tabs open with instant switching and no reloading, even after you do a bit of Youtube watching, email reading and picture snapping? How about 30 tabs? 15? 10? 5?
 
Ashbringer said:
That's the retarded thing about Android in that you can't utilize the SD Card as much as you want. Though you can move apps to it but it's not like I can specifically install the app first on the SD Card.
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This is primarily because SD cards are very slow compared to internal storage and people don't understand things like "you app is gone because you switched SD cards"
 
I don't find this to be a legitimate comparison because you are comparing Apples to Oranges.

A benchmark program is something that runs the same regardless of what OS you use it on. Hence, why it's an acceptable format for benchmarking.

When you minimize a program in Android or iOS, do you know what the Operating System coding is actually doing? Maybe it triggers a background task as well. How do you even know that this is a stock OS? Knowing Android vendors, they LOVE to toss on extra crap.

How do you know that the Angry Birds app is the same in iOS as it is for Android? They are entirely different coding languages. How do you know that the phones have the exact same applications with the exact same startup settings?

I see the point they are TRYING to make, it's just not a logical one by scientific standards. In that regard it is laughable. It is not something you can fairly compare.
 
ocellaris said:
This is primarily because SD cards are very slow compared to internal storage and people don't understand things like "you app is gone because you switched SD cards"
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People use SD cards mostly for media. Also, those that do use them, usually know how to handle them.
 
Still annoying to use SD cards unfortunately with that memory segmentation for apps.
 
Evil_SPanKY said:
Except not really. They are still basing the baseline model off 16 GB, and absolutely RAPING you to upgrade to a higher level of storage. So storage has really gone nowhere in the last 6-8 years.
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The original base iPhone was 4GB. 4x isn't nowhere. That aside, nobody is arguing that apples doesn't rip you off on storage upgrades, but it is what it is.

The point is that SD cards in phones are becoming less common every year, so if not having an SD card makes a phone crap, then most of the best phones are crap (and more will become crap in the coming years).
 
Ashbringer said:
For me the Asus Zenfone 2 is the better phone cause it's cheap and has a SD Card slot. Most name brand phones are removing the SD Card slot, but there's always that growing Chinese knock off market.

In fact I had a friend who wanted me to find a Verizon compatible phone to use. The old phone was dropped in the toilet and they didn't want to spend a lot of money for a new phone. Had to be cheap so the first phone I looked at is the Motorola Moto G which isn't bad but no SD Card slot. Alternatively this Chinese Android phone is 5" and has SD Card slot. The screen is lower in resolution, has a mediatek CPU, and probably won't see Lollipop without a community to provide a custom rom.

If the Asus Zenfone 2 wasn't such a great deal I could always go for this Chinese 8-Core. I'm on T-Mobile.
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that asus zenforce 2 phone looks really good for the money.. being on Verizon I cant use it though.
 
Sounds like Android's memory management hasn't caught up to the amount of RAM in newer devices.
 
Cyraxx said:
I don't find this to be a legitimate comparison because you are comparing Apples to Oranges.

A benchmark program is something that runs the same regardless of what OS you use it on. Hence, why it's an acceptable format for benchmarking.

When you minimize a program in Android or iOS, do you know what the Operating System coding is actually doing? Maybe it triggers a background task as well. How do you even know that this is a stock OS? Knowing Android vendors, they LOVE to toss on extra crap.

How do you know that the Angry Birds app is the same in iOS as it is for Android? They are entirely different coding languages. How do you know that the phones have the exact same applications with the exact same startup settings?

I see the point they are TRYING to make, it's just not a logical one by scientific standards. In that regard it is laughable. It is not something you can fairly compare.
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How is this apples to oranges? They are opening _literally_ the same applications in 2 separate environments and it is very clear which phone switches between them faster.

Now, I wanna see this same test performed after both phones have been used for >6 months.
 
Meeho said:
Is there an iOS device that can hold 50 tabs open with instant switching and no reloading, even after you do a bit of Youtube watching, email reading and picture snapping? How about 30 tabs? 15? 10? 5?
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you're a special case.

WTF are you doing with 50 tabs open anyway?

50 different hardforum threads waiting to be read?
 
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