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Introducing HDMI 2.1 Specification

Talking about that Sony thing, I read a lot of bad reviews regarding it. Expensive and then problematic to get to work afterwards.

Strangely enough, I was checking prices on Amazon a few weeks ago for large TB HDD's and came across more than a few of the pre-loaded 4k content drives. Selection was worthless but a few reviews joked how some drives were now cheaper than to buy through normal channels.
 
Yeah, of course those 8k's are outrageously pricey right now but, I actually look forward to 8K and hope that Sony and Panasonic and others bring 8K to the consumer. In order for VR to work properly it needs at least 8K so, it is coming.
 
Question, if one obtains a motherboard with HDMI 2.0 support - is all one needs is an update for HDMI 2.1 or, is it going to be a hardware issue where one must have an HDMI 2.1 mobo, an HDMI 2.1 CPU and an HDMI 2.1 GPU in order to have true or full HDMI 2.1 support?
 
Needs new video hardware.
the .1 change is not a small change.
18Gbps becomes 48Gbps, it says in the op.
New Mobo and CPU or new gfx card.
 
Humm, ok, so we need a new mobo, CPU &/or GPU with HDMI 2.1 support. Going from 18Gbps to 48Gbps is a good jump in bandwidth, plus, all the other features like 8K at 120, Dolby Atmos and DTS VR surround audio and more .... when might we expect to see motherboards and CPU's and GPU's with HDMI 2.1 support ?
 
JoseJones said:
Humm, ok, so we need a new mobo, CPU &/or GPU with HDMI 2.1 support. Going from 18Gbps to 48Gbps is a good jump in bandwidth, plus, all the other features like 8K at 120, Dolby Atmos and DTS VR surround audio and more .... when might we expect to see motherboards and CPU's and GPU's with HDMI 2.1 support ?
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I'd wager 2 generations for GPUs and maybe 3 for Mobo/CPU.

It took them a while to adopt HDMI 2.0 on GPUs (for AMD it only happened last year), and TVs will probably be even slower if devices don't support HDMI 2.1
 
Humm, ya know Japan is on a quest to have 8K as a new standard. I hope that will push the US to go 8K too and support for HDMI 2.1 is a great way to get started.

Sony and Panasonic target 8K TVs for 2020 Olympics

"Japanese tech firms want to bring something particularly special to the Tokyo Olympics: 8K TV"

"TV-makers Panasonic and Sony will be partnering with broadcaster NHK and others to develop broadcast technology capable of handling 8K video."

"reportedly wants to start full-scale broadcasting of 8K TV in 2018."

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/26/12656286/8k-tv-broadcasts-2020-olympics-sony-panasonic


Dell UltraSharp 32 8K embarrasses 4K monitors
http://techreport.com/news/31637/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-embarrasses-4k-monitors

8K TV's available worldwide in 2018
https://hardforum.com/threads/8k-tvs-available-worldwide-in-2018.1928101/
 
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It's possible, but I doubt it.

The TV broadcasters are still whining over the money they spent into upgrading to 720p/1080i.

Many people can barely afford the 20-30Mbps minimum needed for 4k streaming and I have to admit that a lot of the compression I've seen on Amazon and Netflix is really hard to distinguish from Blu-ray 1080p. I have 2 different 4k disc players and can see the difference on disc pretty easily but some of the streaming, not so much.

I don't really know the numbers but I bet that 8k streaming would need ~60Mbps using similar compression.

In terms of movie making: I can tell you that from reading a number of 4k disc sites that most filmakers are still behind or barely keeping up. True shot 4k/5k and 4k DI's are still pretty rare but increasing. The 8k stuff is more specialized like Olympics and nature things. Even then, compression is still an issue. Display tech is simply evolving too quickly for many of the other things it depends on. 4k is already becoming a nightmare as multiple types of HDR are being developed. Two we know about now, and I've read of another 2-3 coming in the next 18-24 months.
 
It's true, trying to get businesses and companies involved in the last transition 25 years ago was a struggle but, now, things are a bit different and many are demanding it. The good news is that at least they are trying to go 4K in the US instead of just 1080p with the new ATSC 3.0 standard at 4K. I just hope that this new standard will make it easier to upgrade to 8K because that's where we really want to be.

Movies are coming out now in 4K like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

ATSC 3.0 Next Generation Broadcasting

 
DocSavage said:
My over 10 years old 720p 52" Panasonic plasma is still going strong with a beautiful image. For a while, I was thinking of upgrading to 1080p full HD, but as fast as things are improving, I'm glad I didn't bother.
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I am in this boat, i had 720p TV until i moved back to Canada then got 2 cheap dump LG 43" 1080 TVs that look fine. I have no plans of doing 4K since 8K was out so quick after and 10K already being talked about
 
JoseJones said:
It's true, trying to get businesses and companies involved in the last transition 25 years ago was a struggle but, now, things are a bit different and many are demanding it. The good news is that at least they are trying to go 4K in the US instead of just 1080p with the new ATSC 3.0 standard at 4K. I just hope that this new standard will make it easier to upgrade to 8K because that's where we really want to be.

Movies are coming out now in 4K like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

ATSC 3.0 Next Generation Broadcasting

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Sure like 4K netflix movies with 4k res and absolutely crappy level bitrate.....i would rather have a higher bitrate 720 stream than the 4k netflix and others are pawning off.
 
Nytegard said:
Well, I guess I won't be getting a new TV or computer monitor this year, while I wait for the OLEDs to have this specification.
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My OLED has 2.2, so I'm confused as shit.

Edit: I'm thinking hdcp 2.2. What's the difference?
 
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OEM said:
Yeah, I googled and corrected
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HDCP is a form of DRM/copy protection required for 4K streaming and some other stuff. Basically if you don't have it, your legal content generally won't play.
 
-Strelok- said:
HDCP is a form of DRM/copy protection required for 4K streaming and some other stuff. Basically if you don't have it, your legal content generally won't play.
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Yup, I remember now. I was confused as shit.

It makes me want to pirate, because in order for my iTunes HD stuff to play I have to turn my HTPC's resolution down from 4K to 1080 resolution or else iTunes freaks and plays it in SD.

Total bullshit. All this dumb shit just leads people to piracy.
 
JoseJones said:
It's true, trying to get businesses and companies involved in the last transition 25 years ago was a struggle but, now, things are a bit different and many are demanding it. The good news is that at least they are trying to go 4K in the US instead of just 1080p with the new ATSC 3.0 standard at 4K. I just hope that this new standard will make it easier to upgrade to 8K because that's where we really want to be.

Movies are coming out now in 4K like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

ATSC 3.0 Next Generation Broadcasting

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I hate to admit it, but between Marvel and Star Wars, my wallet is already hurting for when Disney starts releasing 4k discs. Hadn't been keeping up on ATSC 3.0, good to know. I sure 8k will be nice but I'm still getting everything in the house caught up to 4k-still waiting for a projector for under $2000 and just spent a small fortune on my desktops upgrades.
 
Where is the best place to get certified HDMI 2.1 cables for the best prices?

HDMI 2.1 cables "Supports HDR, 4k, and Ethernet Signals With 120fps Refresh & 48gbps Bandwidth"

url

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...aw2i2j5JgjXKBuxxJjA3Y4VA&ust=1511016055537946
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url

 
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Its not wise to buy 2.1 capable cables unless you have a way to test they give full bandwidth.
Even good mfrs produce some bum cables and your equipment affects how good a cable you need.
Chance of a late replacement/refund may be limited, it should be tested within the return window period in case none of what that mfr makes are good enough.
 
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