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Internal Rad Selection Thoughts and Equipment selection

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Since finding this forum I've spent numerous hours researching a new water cooling system for my TT Armor LCS VE2000BWS case (integrated WC). My main objective is quiet, but off course I'm overclocking as well.

So far I've determined I'm going with the following equipment, sort of :)
Dtek Fusion CPU Block (for sure already ordered)

Maze 4 VGA block (although I'm not 100% sure it will mount with my video card)

Swiftech MCP350 water pump or some EXPENSIVE variant. I like the "Alphacool Reservoir Top" Or should I just go with Petra's Laing/top combo, aslo would the 355 be a better choice, is it that much noiser than the 350 in real life conditions?

Tygon tubing 3/8", so everything fits inside the case.

Haven't determined a Fan controller yet, or if I should replace the cool looking 1300 rpm fans supplied by TT (which I don't know the specs on).

Now the rad is a different story! None of the copper rads out there fit the dimensions of my current rad (240x120x25(45mm w/fans installed))
How do you guys figure out if any given rad will fit inside the case without first buying the rad?
The Swiftech MCR 220QP ((284 x 128 x 34mm), seems to be the closet fit, but are there mouting holes on the side of the rad? How do you find/make a bracket so it can be mounted in a 6" wide cage within the case? The height isn't a issue as there is room above. Also I'm not adverse to taking the dremel to the case!

Any thoughts on the rad would be appreciated, and if you have any thoughts on the other equipement please comment.

I'm asking a lot and I really appreciate your consideration.
Thanks,
Lox
 
133 x 277 x 25 mm << Black Ice Pro II, 34$ from DangerDen

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Erasmus354 said:
133 x 277 x 25 mm << Black Ice Pro II, 34$ from DangerDen

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Thank You Very Much, now I have a definitive choice!
I wonder how this rad performs against swiftech as I want the BEST 2 Fan rad I can get? And I'm thinking I will need to make some mods regardless of which rad I get as I doubt the mounting will be the same

I think I could get away with a rad that is 30/34 mm deep as there is 9mm between the rad and the hardrives and 5 mm between the grills and fans. But I'm unsure about how to mount one without having it in front of me.

Attached is a picture the rad I have installed. The bracket is attached to the back of the rad.
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The BIP240 should be around 10-15% worse than the swiftech QP series, mainly due to the decreased thickness.

It still dissipates about 300w of heat @ 6LPM, 45cfm, 10c temperature delta.
 
Arcygenical said:
The BIP240 should be around 10-15% worse than the swiftech QP series, mainly due to the decreased thickness.

It still dissipates about 300w of heat @ 6LPM, 45cfm, 10c temperature delta.
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Its not even that big of a difference.

The Swiftech is only slightly better than the BIP. For all intents and purposes they perform about the same.
 
Erasmus354 said:
Its not even that big of a difference.

The Swiftech is only slightly better than the BIP. For all intents and purposes they perform about the same.
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You think? I was always under the impression that it was within 5-10&#37; difference, but I read on XS that it was a tad higher than that.

I can't, for the life of me, find that link right now though.

Personal testing showed no difference, as I'm unable to generate more than 330w of heat with my resistor bank.
 
Erasmus354 said:
Its not even that big of a difference.

The Swiftech is only slightly better than the BIP. For all intents and purposes they perform about the same.
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Arcygenical said:
The BIP240 should be around 10-15% worse than the swiftech QP series, mainly due to the decreased thickness.

It still dissipates about 300w of heat @ 6LPM, 45cfm, 10c temperature delta.
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How does the BI Stealth GT 240 rad compare with the Pro 2, better or worse?

I can't seem to find a supplier with any Pro 2's in stock :(

I'm in a rush as my CPU block is leaking and who knows when it will blow! So I want a new system asap.

Thanks
 
The BIPGTS performs much better than the BIP, provided you use the correct fans.

2 fans pushing 60+CFM through a BIPGTS radiator will cool quite a bit better than a BIP240 with 60CFM...

But, 60cfm is loud as hell... If you're shooting for quiet (IE fans around 40CFM or so) the BIP will outperform the GTS by a fair margin.

I "upgraded" to a GTS at one point... but with yate loons at 7v, my temps rose 3c and the noise was higher. I went back to my BIP240 promptly afterwards.

You can usually find the BIP's on the FSFT forums here for around 30$, and Danger Den has it for 33$
 
Hehehe, 2 fans pushing 60CFM generally run around 38dba together...

I couldn't take that! Under load I hover around 28dba on water, and that's soon to drop ;)
 
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