Intel you are embarrasing yourself

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kraemer007

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Does anyone here really WANT to have a floppy drive in their system? Many people have kicked them to the curb long ago since Microsoft made sure that Vista and Windows2008 server could load mass storage drivers without them. Yet here we are in 2008 and Intel will only put out its Matrix storage array boot time drivers as floppy images and not .zip files. When I emailed Intel about the situation, they told me to go find a computer with a floppy drive on it.

"These files are not available in any other format. You can create the diskette in any computer with a floppy drive and then copy-paste these files deployed to the diskette to any other media like an USB thumb drive."

Given the choice of making life easier for its customers or telling them to "go find a floppy", Intel chooses the latter, because who doesn't love a good scavenger hunt? Thanks Intel, somebody has to keep that last floppy factory in China open.

Please post a reply, I want to send this to intel once the reply count gets pretty high...
 
Someone is embarrassing themselves here and its not Intel..The whole world does not have Vista and Windows server 2008....some people still use other OS's and need or want a floppy.
 
So because you use a floppy, everyone else should buy one and not use Vista or Server 2008? You are awesome! :)
 
Do you need the Intel drivers for Vista or 2008?
I didn't for my P965 mobo with ICH8R. Does ICH9R? What is your actual issue with installing Vista?

And I agree, no reason they couldn't have just supllied a zip file. There is no reason to have a .exe auto extractor when any user can just open the zip files and copy to a floppy drive. There is no special boot capability or formatting they need to provide.
 
Menelmarar said:
Do you need the Intel drivers for Vista or 2008?
I didn't for my P965 mobo with ICH8R. Does ICH9R? What is your actual issue with installing Vista?

And I agree, no reason they couldn't have just supllied a zip file. There is no reason to have a .exe auto extractor when any user can just open the zip files and copy to a floppy drive. There is no special boot capability or formatting they need to provide.
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oh, no there ISNT an .exe extractor. The driver files are ONLY available on the floppy image!

If you install the OS onto the raid array, it needs the mass storage drivers to do so.
 
Just extract the drivers from the floppy .img. What's so hard about that if you already have a running OS?
 
kraemer007 said:
oh, no there ISNT an .exe extractor. The driver files are ONLY available on the floppy image!

If you install the OS onto the raid array, it needs the mass storage drivers to do so.
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Yea there is, but the .exe extractor ONLY sends it to a floppy drive, which I agree is worthless.
 
Vote with your wallet: sell short on their stock.
 
dude just go fry's buy a USB floppy disk, and return after you done!!!! if u don't like INTEL go with MAC or LINUX
 
Are you referring to the Intel Matrix Storage Manager?

If so, it can be extracted via command and then integrated using nLite. Problem solved.
 
SolidBladez said:
Are you referring to the Intel Matrix Storage Manager?

If so, it can be extracted via command and then integrated using nLite. Problem solved.
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Obviously I have already made the scavenger hunt, I am suggesting that its trivial for intel to put these .zip files on their web site as opposed to telling customers to "go find a floppy drive".
 
Intel is embarrassed because their tools have command-line options?
 
mikeblas said:
Intel is embarrassed because their tools have command-line options?
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So, do you feel that manufacturers should not seek to make install easier for their customers?

The steps would be to go here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/fil...dows+Vista*+64&lang=eng&strOSs=150&submit=Go!

Identify the Storage manager as probably having the drivers, and then assuming the readme below the Storage manager as having the methodology for extracting those drivers.

Wouldn't it be easier if they just put a .zip file with the drivers there as well?
 
I agree, floppy drives are very outdated. no need to hang on to old tech like that.
 
While floppies are dead and everyone has a CD burner or a USB drive, I don't see this was worthy of making an ass of yourself. Its not that hard to crack open a floppy img and get the files out if you really need it. No harder than opening a ZIP or RAR, really.

And yeah, if you don't have an OS installed how are you downloading these files, exactly?
 
kraemer007 said:
So, do you feel that manufacturers should not seek to make install easier for their customers?
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What I think is that you're overstating the problem and making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
 
Hey OP, are you still going to send this thread to Intel...? After all these replies?
 
mikeblas said:
What I think is that you're overstating the problem and making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
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I don't think so, they should make it easer to install an OS forcing a person to use outdated tech like a floppy drive to install drivers for an os is nuts. at least have some options.
 
lov3rboy408 said:
dude just go fry's buy a USB floppy disk, and keep it for next time.
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Fixed.

DON'T BUY CRAP AND RETURN IT WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH IT. /RANT

If you do this at my store and I catch you I WILL SMITE YOU. :D

Back on topic, nothing wrong with floppies, don't hate. I still have working 5.25" around.
 
You don't need a floppy, Zardoz. Check the other posts in the thread explaining one way to get it done.
 
How many of their customers do you think install their own operating systems? Set up their own RAID arrays? How many even know what RAID is? If you're building your own computers and don't have an old floppy on-hand, I can understand your pain, but there are workarounds.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
How many of their customers do you think install their own operating systems? Set up their own RAID arrays? How many even know what RAID is? If you're building your own computers and don't have an old floppy on-hand, I can understand your pain, but there are workarounds.
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Anytime a drive fails.
 
NKDietrich said:
Its not that hard to crack open a floppy img and get the files out if you really need it. No harder than opening a ZIP or RAR, really.
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There is no floppy IMG file, there is only an executable that creates the floppy and no way to extract the image from that executable.
 
I still find floppies to be useful for bios flashing. In fact the first board I used a USB key for bios flashing was my ASUS P5E. The blasted bios file is greater than 1.44MB. ;)
 
Come on guys! Floppy's are dead, let them sit for awhile and half the time they are not even readable.

Anyone one how insists that you should have a floppy is very old school, to say the least. And for them to reply with negative crap ....well is just that.

If I never had to look at another floppy, that would be just fine with me. For a manuf. to not support or provide a basic zip so that someone could just load it on a jump drive is crazy. For intel to do so with their latest raid drivers is truely sad. :mad:
 
Does it count if I have a floppy drive in my case but not actually plugged in? For some reason it feels 'funny' not seeing a floppy on a tower on my builds. Guess it's there in case I ever need it....even though its one less set of cables to clean up inside.
 
kraemer007 said:
There is no floppy IMG file, there is only an executable that creates the floppy and no way to extract the image from that executable.
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install winrar then try to 'extract here' by right clicking on the executable ;) :D
 
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