This is the second thread about this, first getting no replies. Do any of you think Intel stock would be a good investment, after all it's hovering at an extremely low price compared to a few years back. I think it's at 19.50 per share, compared to it's peak at 28+.
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Intel Stock
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Stocks rise on ruomrs, but fall with reality. They've lost some market share and they lost some confidence of some people and whatnot. AMD's shares dropped $2.61 today b/c the investing world knows that it's going to be harder for AMD to continue growing with Intel's Core architecture out. It droped about $5 in the past week or so. As Intels share goes back up and investors are more confident in their progress, it will go back up. I'm just hoping it goes up after i get a job and make some money to buy stocks. I bought their stocks when they were priced at $60...Eihli said:
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I think its a great investment so much so I just bought some last week, b/c I had noticed it was fairly low.
I like this "article" about them: http://www.overclockers.com/tips00928/
Anyway, I believe its a great long term investment as its near a 2 year low, with its best products in 2 years coming out now & in a few months. Now (cedar mill, presler, core duo) and in a few months Conroe. They are well ahead of everyone with the 65nm process, and it looks mature already as the Cedarmills hit 4.5Ghz, and Preslers are hitting 4Ghz all on air, which is A LOT better than than Prescott. So their process technology seems back on track.
I like this "article" about them: http://www.overclockers.com/tips00928/
Anyway, I believe its a great long term investment as its near a 2 year low, with its best products in 2 years coming out now & in a few months. Now (cedar mill, presler, core duo) and in a few months Conroe. They are well ahead of everyone with the 65nm process, and it looks mature already as the Cedarmills hit 4.5Ghz, and Preslers are hitting 4Ghz all on air, which is A LOT better than than Prescott. So their process technology seems back on track.
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^^ I agree. Intel is doing very well and is finally going to outperform AMD in quite some time. I don't think we'll see the $50+ levels like the tech stocks used to do, but I bet it'll get ya $10-15 if you play your cards right.
AMD also claims that it has a brand new architecture so i would not count them out just yet. Overclocks.com was talking about it and was saying that when AMD has information to share, it shares it, but when it remains silent, you know that you are winning.
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i would put intel as a "strong buy" right now. as soon as they regain their marketshare and have a couple strong quarters, stock is going to skyrocket. i'm currently trying to convince my wife to sink a few thousand into INTC while the getting's good.
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right after they missed their guidance a few weeks ago I said this would be a perfect time to buy right after their hit in stock price and right before Conroe comes out. Buy it buy it buy it...
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i bought some several weeks back when it hit it's low at 20.5x ish...and I just bought even more today....With AMD going down in the market - I should think INTC will go up.
even if it's not immediate - I agree - by quarter three INTC should be up in the mid-high 20's at the very minimum.
even if it's not immediate - I agree - by quarter three INTC should be up in the mid-high 20's at the very minimum.
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live2sk8 said:My claim to fame is buying Apple at $22, haha. I couldn't pull the trigger on Nvidia at $9 or AMD/ATI at $5, though
I am also thinking about maybe 50 shares of Intel...could help pay for Conroe if it goes up just a bit, haha.
I bought 1000 shares last week
(and a rolex for my wife a few days later)But then again I'm a big baller.... shot caller....
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E-trade, Scott trade, Ameritrade, Chase, etc..
You need to deposit money in to the account, and then start trading, its fairly easy to trade, now to make money thats the hard part!
I made $13k in one year off of about $20k initial investment, another year I lost of $20k on a stupid invesment. Net gains/losses I'm still at a loss since I've started trading about 6-7 years ago.
Don't put all your money in to one stock at a time. Try to keep 1/2 your money free in case you see a good deal or need to buy more of a stock that has lost a lot of value. To help regain your loss on a bounce back.
You need to deposit money in to the account, and then start trading, its fairly easy to trade, now to make money thats the hard part!
I made $13k in one year off of about $20k initial investment, another year I lost of $20k on a stupid invesment. Net gains/losses I'm still at a loss since I've started trading about 6-7 years ago.
Don't put all your money in to one stock at a time. Try to keep 1/2 your money free in case you see a good deal or need to buy more of a stock that has lost a lot of value. To help regain your loss on a bounce back.
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Depends on the cost per trade. If you invest $100 and there's a $7 per trade fee, then you're starting with a 14% net loss ($7 for the buy, $7 for the sell). That's why it pays to trade in large quantities - the fees take a proportionally smaller chunk.
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Fenris_Ulf said:
QFT - its hard to make up the trade costs with just a few hundred $.
I'd say you need $1000+ to start trading... but it doesn't hurt to put your money in to an account and start saving up.... most of them pay a nice % on the moneymarket / sweep account balance.
I've moved a lot of my money to my trading account b/c the money market account pays like 2.6%.
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sharebuilder is the place to start.
I started there with 300 dollars.
$4 for buying - $16 for selling with the basic plan
no minimum to start.
They also have a 3.8% money market account.
I started with 300 dollars and it quickly grew into thousands....
The previous poster was right...don't put all your eggs in one basket....I actually think starting out with a couple hundred to invest is the best way to start....You get to learn how the whole thing works with such a small sum of money that it won't hurt you too much if you lose the whole thing.
Referall things aren't looked favorable upon here....but if you PM me I'll send you a referral e-mail that will allow you to open an account with sharebuilder with a free $25 dollar bonus in the refer a friend program and it gives me four free trades when you make your first investment. (4 free trades with $16 bucks for me and $25 bucks for you - good deal for both of us ---- in fact good deal for anybody who wants $25 bucks free.)
I started there with 300 dollars.
$4 for buying - $16 for selling with the basic plan
no minimum to start.
They also have a 3.8% money market account.
I started with 300 dollars and it quickly grew into thousands....
The previous poster was right...don't put all your eggs in one basket....I actually think starting out with a couple hundred to invest is the best way to start....You get to learn how the whole thing works with such a small sum of money that it won't hurt you too much if you lose the whole thing.
Referall things aren't looked favorable upon here....but if you PM me I'll send you a referral e-mail that will allow you to open an account with sharebuilder with a free $25 dollar bonus in the refer a friend program and it gives me four free trades when you make your first investment. (4 free trades with $16 bucks for me and $25 bucks for you - good deal for both of us ---- in fact good deal for anybody who wants $25 bucks free.)
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it's still a GREAT time to latch onto intel...They haven't realized the profits of the core duo, and their stock is still way undervalued. In three to six months my guess is that it will be at the 27$ range or higher.
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Its probably still a good time to invest.
The GREAT time would have been back at $17-18/share. But then again hindsight is 20/20.
The GREAT time would have been back at $17-18/share. But then again hindsight is 20/20.
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i bought some intel at 17, 18, 19, and 20.
I'm looking to ride it up!
I got a pm from this forum and a question about stocks and bonds from another forum today...I'm going to post them here since it looks like there are some potential investors with questions right now. This info may be slightly off topic, but it's good sound beginning for young investor advice.
getting started is easy and fun.
I'd open up a sharebuilder or scottrade account.
I have both. Sharebuilder is better for building up money, you can buy stock cheaper and can buy partial shares of expensive stock if you like....scottrade for active trading because their selling fees are cheaper, and they have better tracking tools for tax review time-- but you cannot buy partial shares....I started with Sharebuilder, but currently use both.
Sharebuilder buy = 4 bucks, sell = 16 bucks ---- total for a trade = 20 bucks
Scottrade buy = 7 bucks, sell = 7 bucks ----total for a trade = 14 bucks.
The reason sharebuilder works though is you can buy the same stock every week or month if you like and keep buying without selling, so you are only paying $4 each time you purchase the shares and one total of $16 when you sell it all.
$300-500 is fine, that's what I started with. You gotta start somewhere. Intel is a perfect deal right now if you jump on it. It's about 20.70 and should hit 27ish before you consider giving it up.
If you'd like to sign up for sharebuilder do it - they have a VERY simple online sign up. Scottrader is cheaper trading for active traders...Scottrader allows for referall references to get free trades for both the referrer and the referree - if you are interested in that let me have your e-mail addy and I'll send you a e-mail option for three free trades since you got referred by someone with an account.
AMD will be a good purcase in a couple months. Intel's best purchase time is past(I bought quite a bit of them at 17ish per share, then some at 18, 19, and 20 as I got more funds) but still a great opportunity to make 25% back on your investment in the next several months, as they rise to the high 20's perhaps low 30s per share in my estimation.
I recently posted in another forum about stocks and bonds question for a guy who was looking for a short mid term investment strategy. I'll copy that below for you....
Traditional IRA's have their merit. In fact.
I work at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City and take as many financial classes as I can. I made over 30% on my personal hand picked stock portfolio this year and 23% on my 401K. I've never made less than 20% a year the last 3 years on my individual stock picks and last year I didn't have a loss on any of my stock transactions. I tell you this to let you know that I DO have a bit of knowledge and training here.
The difference in when a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA have their merits depends on what tax bracket you plan to be in when you need to withdraw the money/retire. For a person that plans to retire young and not be working at the time they would access the IRA, the ROTH is worse. Why? Because you are taxed at the traditional income tax bracket for the year of the withdraw ---With the traditional IRA, if you aren't making anything your tax bracket will be the lowest, and your IRA then is taxed at the lowest level which COULD be even lower than you are being taxed at now(assuming you make a mid high income)and since you are investing non taxed money(= more investment money upfront) the money will grow faster in a traditional IRA. SO it's a win/win. However, if you plan to keep working your whole life ---since you will theoretically continue to make more money each year of your life, your tax bracket will be higher at retirment age than it is now and so the lack of tax in the higher tax bracket will be benificial to you - thus choose Roth IRA.
I personally plan to retire before 50 and at 40 or 45 if i can. According to the last financial advisor I spoke with I should be using traditional IRAs.
As far as providing stock advice to a stranger. I peronally frown on that...because people don't get the timing right. I'll tell someone to invest in something. They'll wait 2 or 3 weeks until they get the funds/get it done and by then the stock has gone up 5%. I'll tell someone to sell and the same thing applies, they can't or don't do it right away getting greedy or whatever and wait too long and the trade value loses 5 or 10%. Since I do a lot of my trading for a 10 or 20% gain, their gains are cut in half or even sometimes loose money because they don't listen, or panic and sell without my approval if the stock suddenly drop unexpectedly or something, etc. I've tried it with a couple of aquaintinces and it didn't work out for them. So now I try to only advise friends who are really close.
I'd advise, as far as picking individual stocks, that you research everything yourself, and learn how to do the trading yourself. Only invest in companies you truly are familar with. All my investments based on other folks opinions or recommendations have never been as succesfull as those I picked myself.
Finally - you gotta start somewhere. Open up a sharebuilder account or scottrade account and put 50 a month in from your paycheck, when you get 300 bucks put some money in something. Watch it with smaller amounts you can lose, learn to play by doing it and don't be discouraged if your first few transactions lose money...it's all part of the learning process.
The best thing I can tell you is buy a strong companies stock when everyone else is selling.....Strong companies come back!, sometimes a bad fiscal quarter will make a company lose 5-20% in the course of a couple weeks. People will sell when they hear that news. I tend to buy if I know the companies strong. Next quarter it will have reqgained that 5-20% and you win. The problem with people investing is that they follow recommendations of buying when a stock has been doing well already and has already pretty much peaked out so they buy high and then sell low so to speak as they sell when it starts dropping. Then people think think - ah i can't do this. Just recongize that by the time something goes to print in a magazine about a certain stock being a good buy - most of the time that good buy window has already pased - so joe investor buys and then the stock starts retreating, due to a normal up/down cycle. The trick truly is to buy LOW and sell high. Historical charts are also your friend. It's not hard. If you want a referall link to a scottrade account let me know. Using the refer a friend program both you and I get three free trades under a new signup. No negatives.
As far as a mid term solution like you are looking for. Buy a CD, or if you need the money liquid get a high interst savings account with no withdrawal penalty like Emmigrant Direct's 5% saving account. ING Orange direct has a 4.50% savings account. There is no negative to these accounts, and I prefer them over CDs, as I can move my money around from the stock market to the savings account with no penalty and as often as I like.
As far as a single stock pick for the next 2-4 years. I can't see where Fedex wouldn't be the safest strongest pick I can think of.
Look at fedex's five year chart or 10 year chart.......with the internet, ebay, world shipping etc, and their smart company principles (like capped hourly wages and no unions) they have nowhere to go but up.
Their ticker symbol is FDX.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=FDX
I'm looking to ride it up!
I got a pm from this forum and a question about stocks and bonds from another forum today...I'm going to post them here since it looks like there are some potential investors with questions right now. This info may be slightly off topic, but it's good sound beginning for young investor advice.
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getting started is easy and fun.
I'd open up a sharebuilder or scottrade account.
I have both. Sharebuilder is better for building up money, you can buy stock cheaper and can buy partial shares of expensive stock if you like....scottrade for active trading because their selling fees are cheaper, and they have better tracking tools for tax review time-- but you cannot buy partial shares....I started with Sharebuilder, but currently use both.
Sharebuilder buy = 4 bucks, sell = 16 bucks ---- total for a trade = 20 bucks
Scottrade buy = 7 bucks, sell = 7 bucks ----total for a trade = 14 bucks.
The reason sharebuilder works though is you can buy the same stock every week or month if you like and keep buying without selling, so you are only paying $4 each time you purchase the shares and one total of $16 when you sell it all.
$300-500 is fine, that's what I started with. You gotta start somewhere. Intel is a perfect deal right now if you jump on it. It's about 20.70 and should hit 27ish before you consider giving it up.
If you'd like to sign up for sharebuilder do it - they have a VERY simple online sign up. Scottrader is cheaper trading for active traders...Scottrader allows for referall references to get free trades for both the referrer and the referree - if you are interested in that let me have your e-mail addy and I'll send you a e-mail option for three free trades since you got referred by someone with an account.
AMD will be a good purcase in a couple months. Intel's best purchase time is past(I bought quite a bit of them at 17ish per share, then some at 18, 19, and 20 as I got more funds) but still a great opportunity to make 25% back on your investment in the next several months, as they rise to the high 20's perhaps low 30s per share in my estimation.
I recently posted in another forum about stocks and bonds question for a guy who was looking for a short mid term investment strategy. I'll copy that below for you....
Traditional IRA's have their merit. In fact.
I work at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City and take as many financial classes as I can. I made over 30% on my personal hand picked stock portfolio this year and 23% on my 401K. I've never made less than 20% a year the last 3 years on my individual stock picks and last year I didn't have a loss on any of my stock transactions. I tell you this to let you know that I DO have a bit of knowledge and training here.
The difference in when a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA have their merits depends on what tax bracket you plan to be in when you need to withdraw the money/retire. For a person that plans to retire young and not be working at the time they would access the IRA, the ROTH is worse. Why? Because you are taxed at the traditional income tax bracket for the year of the withdraw ---With the traditional IRA, if you aren't making anything your tax bracket will be the lowest, and your IRA then is taxed at the lowest level which COULD be even lower than you are being taxed at now(assuming you make a mid high income)and since you are investing non taxed money(= more investment money upfront) the money will grow faster in a traditional IRA. SO it's a win/win. However, if you plan to keep working your whole life ---since you will theoretically continue to make more money each year of your life, your tax bracket will be higher at retirment age than it is now and so the lack of tax in the higher tax bracket will be benificial to you - thus choose Roth IRA.
I personally plan to retire before 50 and at 40 or 45 if i can. According to the last financial advisor I spoke with I should be using traditional IRAs.
As far as providing stock advice to a stranger. I peronally frown on that...because people don't get the timing right. I'll tell someone to invest in something. They'll wait 2 or 3 weeks until they get the funds/get it done and by then the stock has gone up 5%. I'll tell someone to sell and the same thing applies, they can't or don't do it right away getting greedy or whatever and wait too long and the trade value loses 5 or 10%. Since I do a lot of my trading for a 10 or 20% gain, their gains are cut in half or even sometimes loose money because they don't listen, or panic and sell without my approval if the stock suddenly drop unexpectedly or something, etc. I've tried it with a couple of aquaintinces and it didn't work out for them. So now I try to only advise friends who are really close.
I'd advise, as far as picking individual stocks, that you research everything yourself, and learn how to do the trading yourself. Only invest in companies you truly are familar with. All my investments based on other folks opinions or recommendations have never been as succesfull as those I picked myself.
Finally - you gotta start somewhere. Open up a sharebuilder account or scottrade account and put 50 a month in from your paycheck, when you get 300 bucks put some money in something. Watch it with smaller amounts you can lose, learn to play by doing it and don't be discouraged if your first few transactions lose money...it's all part of the learning process.
The best thing I can tell you is buy a strong companies stock when everyone else is selling.....Strong companies come back!, sometimes a bad fiscal quarter will make a company lose 5-20% in the course of a couple weeks. People will sell when they hear that news. I tend to buy if I know the companies strong. Next quarter it will have reqgained that 5-20% and you win. The problem with people investing is that they follow recommendations of buying when a stock has been doing well already and has already pretty much peaked out so they buy high and then sell low so to speak as they sell when it starts dropping. Then people think think - ah i can't do this. Just recongize that by the time something goes to print in a magazine about a certain stock being a good buy - most of the time that good buy window has already pased - so joe investor buys and then the stock starts retreating, due to a normal up/down cycle. The trick truly is to buy LOW and sell high. Historical charts are also your friend. It's not hard. If you want a referall link to a scottrade account let me know. Using the refer a friend program both you and I get three free trades under a new signup. No negatives.
As far as a mid term solution like you are looking for. Buy a CD, or if you need the money liquid get a high interst savings account with no withdrawal penalty like Emmigrant Direct's 5% saving account. ING Orange direct has a 4.50% savings account. There is no negative to these accounts, and I prefer them over CDs, as I can move my money around from the stock market to the savings account with no penalty and as often as I like.
As far as a single stock pick for the next 2-4 years. I can't see where Fedex wouldn't be the safest strongest pick I can think of.
Look at fedex's five year chart or 10 year chart.......with the internet, ebay, world shipping etc, and their smart company principles (like capped hourly wages and no unions) they have nowhere to go but up.
Their ticker symbol is FDX.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=FDX