Intel Pentium 4, 1700 MHz OC???

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aznstyl

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The specs below are my cpu. My friend said he can Overclock that to 2.4ghz max. Is it true? If it is, what do I need to OC it and do I need a lof of fans to cool it down? Please advice me. Any input is welcome. Thank you.

CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 1700 MHz (17 x 100)
CPU Alias P68, Willamette, A80528
CPU Stepping D0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
Original Clock 1700 MHz
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 423 Pin PGA
Package Size 5.34 cm x 5.34 cm
Transistors 42 million
Process Technology 6M, 0.18 um, CMOS
Die Size 217 mm2
Core Voltage 1.70 - 1.75 V
I/O Voltage 1.70 - 1.75 V
Typical Power 48.9 - 71.8 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 66 - 96 W (depending on clock speed)
 
It's possible I suppose. Although I don't recall anyone ever OC'ing a Willamette very far. Especially not a Socket 423 Willamette.
 
depends on the chip, all you can do is try. not all chips are created equal; i highly doubt you can get it to 2.4ghz tho, your fsb would have to @141mhz to get there, and i dont see that happening on a s423 chip
 
i overclocked a 1.8 to 2.3 - 2.4 (I cant remember) using only stock cooling. it ran prime 95 for a week without getting any errors
 
how far can I overclock this thing and what program(s) do I need to OC it? I don't want to OC it to the max.. just enough for a little boost if possible. Thanks for the fast reply guys.
 
judging by your knowledge of the subject, im guessing you have an OEM computer? such as dell/gateway/hp ect? in that case, the BIOS options needed for OC'ing are not present and you typically cannot OC an OEM machine
 
If you can get past 2GHz on regular cooling, you're not doing too bad. Willamettes were terrible for overclocking, plus they run very hot due to the stock voltage (1.75v).
 
Hi lithium726, this box was build by a relative of mine.

The mobo I'm having is from a ECS.

Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 62-0610-001131-00101111-040201-SiS645$P4S5A2P4S5A2 Release 06/10/2002
Motherboard Name ECS P4S5A

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 400 MHz
Bandwidth 3200 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type SiS MuTIOL
Bus Width 16-bit

Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1
Expansion Slots 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 AMR
RAM Slots 2 SDR DIMM, 2 DDR DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio
Form Factor ATX
Motherboard Size 240 mm x 300 mm
Motherboard Chipset SiS645
 
ah, ok. all overclocking options are in the BIOS, and for gigabte boards you have to hit a combination of keys (which i cant remember right now) to get to the "advanced" options which allow you to overclock. if your friend knows his way around the BIOS, get him over and have him coach you through it. if that isnt possible, just do some googling on overclocking and read up about it; also, become comfortable with your BIOS, figure out where things are located. once you have done all this, you can start easing up your clock speed, a little bit at a time

hope this helped
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yes, but not that well. ECS doesnt make great boards

also according to that, youre CPU is a s478, not 423

edit: having actually read through it now, you cant overclock it unless your CPU is an ES(engeneering sample) with an unlocked multi, which i *highly* doubt it is. i guess youre out of luck bud:(
 
s478?? where did it say s478? ==> Package Type 423 Pin PGA <== doesn't that say its a socket 423?
 
Socket478 Intel Pentium 4 (Willamette/Northwood core)

they said they tested all 3 mobos with a 478 chip
 
aznstyl said:
can you OC ECS P4S5A mobo?
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I had one of those. The CPU has a S423->S478 adapter between it and the motherboard. Fry's was bundling those almost 2 years ago (S423 CPU + S478 motherboard + adapter).

You can adjust the FSB speed on that motherboard (update the BIOS if you don't have those options), but you don't have any control over the voltage. Don't go too crazy because that motherboard doesn't have a PCI speed lock or alternate PCI divisors. If you overclock too high, you can corrupt your hard drive.

There's not much you can do with that combo. Get a new motherboard and CPU combo. Fry's and outpost has the retail Celeron-D 320/325 and motherboard for around $90 pretty often.
 
aznstyl said:
how did you OC it?
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The guy above your post probably is referring to a different motherboard.

I forgot to mention in my post that overclocking depends on the revision of the motherboard (different clock generators).
 
pxc, I just got out of my BIOS and can't find anything to increase my FSB. All they have is the "FEATURES" in it it have the CPU ratio. Default was set to "H/T" or something I've forgot. Also CPU/DDR 100mhz/100mhz setting. I just flash my bios to 6/10/2004 <-- that's the latest I can find.
 
You might not have a revision of the board that supports overclocking. Open up your case and find the clock generator. It's a rectangular chip usually made by ICS (large ICS letters) or Cypress Semi (tree logo) and it's between the AGP and first PCI slot on that board. Write down the whole part number, including letters and numbers.

If the current BIOS doesn't let you overclock, you might be able to use a program like CPUFSB to overclock. Post the part number for your clock generator and i'll tell you if it allows overclocking and which program you can use.

The version of the P4S5A I had allowed several overclocking steps in CMOS setup, just not by 1MHz steps.
 
pxc said:
If the current BIOS doesn't let you overclock, you might be able to use a program like CPUFSB to overclock. Post the part number for your clock generator and i'll tell you if it allows overclocking and which program you can use.
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i highly doubt htat, HiOda hasnt dont anywork on his utility in a LONG time(stopped in like 99 or something), i dont even think it went into p4 era, and i already checked clockgen, it doesnt support his board
 
pxc said:
You might not have a revision of the board that supports overclocking. Open up your case and find the clock generator. It's a rectangular chip usually made by ICS (large ICS letters) or Cypress Semi (tree logo) and it's between the AGP and first PCI slot on that board. Write down the whole part number, including letters and numbers.

If the current BIOS doesn't let you overclock, you might be able to use a program like CPUFSB to overclock. Post the part number for your clock generator and i'll tell you if it allows overclocking and which program you can use.

The version of the P4S5A I had allowed several overclocking steps in CMOS setup, just not by 1MHz steps.
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I've open the box and can't seem to find any clockgenerator that you've describe. I've search high and low. My mobo is P4S5A2 Revision 1.0
 
lithium726 said:
i highly doubt htat, HiOda hasnt dont anywork on his utility in a LONG time(stopped in like 99 or something), i dont even think it went into p4 era, and i already checked clockgen, it doesnt support his board
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I think he stopped near the middle of 2001 on CPUFSB. Or at least that's the .exe/dll/hlp file dates in cpufsb9.exe (installer). And he continued for a while longer in CPUCool. But anyways...

The clock generator on the board is what's important, not the model of the board. I've used CPUFSB on boards that weren't supported. As long as you choose a clock generator that's compatible, it works. Sometimes it takes a little trial and error to find a motherboard selection that also works.

I also found instructions before on how to modify PLL table to add a new clock generator using the clock generator's datasheet. I wish I had saved the link.
 
aznstyl said:
I've open the box and can't seem to find any clockgenerator that you've describe. I've search high and low. My mobo is P4S5A2 Revision 1.0
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That's really old.

If you can't find the clock generator chip then forget about overclocking that board. That's the easiest step of what you need to do. :p

edit: this is what i'm talking about:
clockgen.jpg
 
pxc said:
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The clock generator on the board is what's important, not the model of the board. I've used CPUFSB on boards that weren't supported. As long as you choose a clock generator that's compatible, it works. Sometimes it takes a little trial and error to find a motherboard selection that also works.

I also found instructions before on how to modify PLL table to add a new clock generator using the clock generator's datasheet. I wish I had saved the link.
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oh i know the board didnt matter with CPUFSB, but with ClockGen (CPUID's OC utility), it does

linkage

id really like that link too, lol... i could get back to trying to OC the Gateway's i have :D
 
lithium726 said:
id really like that link too, lol... i could get back to trying to OC the Gateway's i have :D
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On one of my old backup CDs I probably saved the PLL table format because I added an old Asus board with an ICS clock generator manually. That was probably in 2001. :eek:
 
Hi PXC, I've open the box and research again... I can't find any square box that has ICS on it or a tree logo but I've manage to find a Square box that has XP4 lable on it.

It look like this

XP4
HT7961
PLA5036A1
0143CA

the font goes like that as well from big to small. I hope that's the clock generator. Thanks
 
FWIW....I had a Willy core 1.9 that wouldn't OC if you held a gun to it's head. I upped the Vcore to the point where the local power utility called me and asked me to knock it off but that stupid thing would poop its pants every time you got it up to 2.0G.

My experience is that they are AWFUL overclockers, though I'd be the first to admit YMMV.....

Good Luck - B.B.S.
 
aznstyl said:
I guess my mobo don't have a clock generator then.. I'm out of luck...
:(
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Of course there's a clock generator on the board. But unless you locate it, you won't know if overclocking is possible or not.

Don't stress too much, Willamette P4s were poor overclockers anyways. And that particular motherboard doesn't make it easy, if it can even overclock at all.
 
Maybe the video card is in the way :confused:

I burnt my RAM the first time I tried to overclock, and I didn't have the spare parts around to diagnose, so I had to take it to the computer store. That was many years ago, but I'd suggest holding out 'till you have read every OC article you can.

Vette
 
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