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Intel or AMD

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Lucas Gomez

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I just want to know as the serach is off I can't see for other topics so I want to post a new one.

Which one do YOU think it's better and why?

I'm now changing from Intel to AMD so I would like to know if with your comments I did a good or bad movement.

Thanks & Regards
 
These tyoe if posts just go downhill from here into an argument. Check on the Strictly Intel and Strictly AMD forums and look for things that might help you.

As I understand it, right now AMD is a little cheaper than Intel, but some of the Intels how more power
(Please correct me if I am wrong)


DONT TURN THIS INTO A FLAME WAR
 
Well if you guys see a war, just don't start it, I want to see opinions from different people. I'm not looking for a war post, if you guys know it can turn into one, just don't turn it into. Think. ;)
 
If you read this board on even a SLIGHTLY regular basis, you should already know how this thread is going to turn out. However, if you don't read this board at all, I'll save you the time.

Half the people are going to say they prefer Intel, and the other half is going to say they prefer AMD.

You said in your post that you have already made the decision to switch to AMD from Intel, so why do you need people telling you that you made a good or bad decision? If you read objective review sites and researched which processor fits YOUR needs best, then you should be confident with your choice.
 
it depends intel is more $ but is more stable(its life a newb proof overclocker) if you ge the northwood. Amd on the other hand does better in many benchmarks and the chipsets are better in my opinion.
 
I think AMD is better. That's why I have an AMD chip.

Better doesn't always mean faster. There are other things that make a chip better. Mainly price vs. performance.

AMD Athlon XP2500: $75

AMD Athlon XP1800: $49

Intel Pentium 4 2.4C: $167

As far as performance goes, everyone has their own opinion. Mine is this: If you want to chase the performance crown, be my guest, but my xp2500 sure does feel pretty damn fast, at stock speed even, but especially when it's oc'd to xp3200 speed :)

And my sister really likes her xp1800, not that she even knows what's inside, but it's very nice as well, and the new xp1800's hit 2.2ghz also :)
 
I have used AMD's for many years, but recently switched to a P4. P4's are nice, the HSF's are easy to install, much less of a hassle than trying to clamp down an HSF onto an AMD. Also, P4's seem to run cooler than my AMD at idle, unlike my AMD 1900, the copper HSF was ALWAYS warm at idle.

Either way the performance is close with either side, factoring in similar CPU's. I'll just go with who runs cooler and which HSF is easier to install. And fuck man, those P4 CPU's are SMALL! I never realized it for this whole time until I ordered my own.
 
The new athlon xp mobile chips (barton cores) have a stock voltage of 1.45v, down from the normal 1.65v. I don't know exactly how much difference that translates to, but I expect that they would run significantly cooler than the current 1.65v bartons/tbreds.

Your xp1900 was probably a palomino core, which were notoriously warm with a stock voltage of 1.75v.
 
personally i'm not seeing any benefit of intel over AMD in the near future.

PERSONALLY

but yeah thost p4 HSF's are awesomely easy to install. who knows how many times i've punched my mobo with my screwdrvier because it slipped off the stupid thing.
 
It took me over an hour to figure out how to connect the hsf on my 1.2 gig duron (slot 370)! Finally did a search on google and found out I had to use a screwdriver :rolleyes:

And no, I didnt have the instructions, it came with a mobo I bought.
 
I will always buy Intel and build only Intel based systems for customers. I have had many AMD systems and currently have 2 which are being sold off. AMD just doesn't have the reliability and stability i expected That others claim. My systems run SETI 24/7. The only systems that need occasional reboots are the AMD's. If it weren't for power failures my Intel systems would run forever.
Intel is a simple plug and play no hassle system setup. No aftermarket heatsink/fans needed. Reliable Intel chipsets. Just about every known MB works just fine with the CPU's. I've tried various MB's for the AMD setup's including MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS and still they have problems once in a while. Not often but they do happen.
 
Phoenix, if what you said about AMD not having high reliability and stability was true, nobody would be using AMD at all.

My xp2500/nForce2 has never given me any hassle, has given me zero problems in setting up, and is as reliable as I could imagine.

I won't defend A64 as it seems to be offering a few problems/hassles. But likewise, I hope you aren't claiming to defend prescott chips by saying every known MB works just fine with the CPU's... that will start a war!

I won't even get into the heat issue with the prescott chip, that would be beating a dead horse. Stock heatsink with prescott? I think not.
 
Ok, first off, I'm sorry your first four replies seemed to be unhelpful, but hopefully the last eight, this one, and the following will help you out. Don't get the wrong impression of this forum. We are not ALL 5 year olds that can't control our urges, haven't fully researched the benefits of both processors, and have to lash out like a bunch of retards with pitchforks when someone is using the other processor. GROW UP! So....

It really depends on what you are planning on spending. AMD is currently offering the 64 bit processors. They are nice for bragging rights, games, and do decent in business applications and media. Their prices are pretty good too, but I would not get one yet, cause I like to let new technologies time to unfold and I'm also waiting for a fully compatible 64 bit operating system to utilize it completely. Another thing is even though the processor and even the motherboard is fairly cheap, if you have older ram it is unusable unless it is ecc and registered. So you'll end up buying new ram too. So for the 64 bits, wait for the Socket 939 motherboards. By then if you have fairly new ram, (PC2700 and up), then you will be able to just pop it in.

The other side of AMD is the XP's. Which are extremely cheap right now. This is your overall good processor. It does games good, good price, business applications are done well, and it does alright with media. All current AMD's run stable with stock heatsink and fans. Just be sure to purchase some Artic Silver thermal paste. Personally I would never use factory paste, not even for Intel.

Now onto Intel. I believe if you have just a little more money to spend the Northwoods are really nice. They do an awesome job at video editing, encoding, media. Also they do decent at business apps and games. AMD may currently be the games king, but Intel is no pushover. Very good chips and not very expensive. I suggest going this route if you plan to overclock. Purchase yourself a 2.4c and overclock to 3.6. Currently I own a Athlon 3200XP. At the time I bought it I loved this processor for it's price and the performace I was getting for it. If I had about another 100 to spend I would've went Northwood. They are both awesome processors for good prices right now. So currently it swings both ways.

Now with the latest Intels (Prescotts), last I checked, they ran too hot. So, if you plan on leaving your computer on or playing games for hours on end, then with this processor you will have a problem. Also they are just entirely TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE. And not for me. If you got the money to get one, great, but just be careful you have your case properly vented and a very good heatsink and fan.

Overall honestly if I purchased something it be a hard decision between the Xp's and the Northwoods. When I really think about it, I might actually spend the few extra dolllars on the Northwoods. Fortunately, I don't have to think about it, cause I have an Athlon 3200XP and trust me, I am completely happy with it right now. Good Luck!
 
I am a retail store owner that leverages his location (Cell phone Store) to do occasional system builds for customers.

The reality is that both companies make a very good product. I must however say this.

The overall system architecture of Intel has been more stable.

In my opinion , anyone just starting out should build Intel. WHile AMD makes a good chip, the supporting cast , VIa , Sis for example leave a little bit to be desired.

AMD builds tend to require a little more finesse. A skill beginners dont posess. Most of the individuals who tout no issues with thier AMD have a skill set and level of intelect that is above average and as such have no issues.

I have built both for customers (first time buyers) and more often than not the AMD customer comes to me with issues through no fault of AMD but because the "Newbie" does not and can not understand the complex set of variables that the added headache of Via platforms presents and subsequently foul up thier systems





Just my humble opinion
 
Computers now are so fast that the difference between them is pretty slim.

Yes i have both an intel and amd system as you can see in my sig.
When I am using the computers they are both very snappy.

I used to be always an AMD guy and sill am, but I got the p4 just because many other people were getting them and i wanted to see how great they really were. Well, upon my first boot up on the p4 the whole computer shitted out :rolleyes: ....so that kind of gave me a bad impression. I had to send the motherboard back for RMA. But once i got it back and running again it was flying right up there next to my oc'd AthlonXP.

Honestly I cant recommend one over the other. Yes the p4 will get you like 20-30fps more when running games....but whats the difference when both computers will run games at 250-300fps??? However I have notice that intel motherboards are built up to a little higher spec than AMD motherboards. It come down to budget. Getting an amd system will undoubtly cost less than an intel system. Probably up to 150 less or more.

If those extra 20-30fps matter and if 10seconds off of video editing time matters. By all means go for the p4. But if you want to save that extra $150 and spend it on a better video card or wait for future upgrade, then go for an AMD.

:cool: Good luck with your decision.
 
i seen too many of the similar threads

this is going to be an ongoing battle between opinions

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!!!!
 
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