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Intel numbering system

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What do you guys think of Intel's numbering system, its coming whether we like it or not but do any of you agree/disagree with it?

IMO I don't think its a great idea, nor do I think its terrible. I like it more than AMD's numbering system. AMD's system is rather misleading and extremely hard to explain in a retail market (yeah this 2800+ is actually 2.25ghz). As for Intel, I can see the need in a retail market for less technologically inclined consumers to picture it like a car, BMW in particular. A 325 is better than a 318, it has nothing to do w/ its horsepower or anything on the car, but the number is bigger, therefore warrants spending more money. I just want to know what you guys think of all this.
 
makes little difference to me, ill still look at the mhz rating and benchmarks of them. and if i ever upgrade to one with that naming scheme ill still but the mhz in my sig here :D
 
Tweak Monkey said:
What do you guys think of Intel's numbering system, its coming whether we like it or not but do any of you agree/disagree with it?

IMO I don't think its a great idea, nor do I think its terrible. I like it more than AMD's numbering system. AMD's system is rather misleading and extremely hard to explain in a retail market (yeah this 2800+ is actually 2.25ghz). As for Intel, I can see the need in a retail market for less technologically inclined consumers to picture it like a car, BMW in particular. A 325 is better than a 318, it has nothing to do w/ its horsepower or anything on the car, but the number is bigger, therefore warrants spending more money. I just want to know what you guys think of all this.
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I did high tech sales for a firm here in Austin, and for us the Intel scheme had its pros and cons (disregarding the initial learning of the system as a con). It simplifies things for the customer, and yes, like the cars gives them an idea of the features/etc they're paying for. Intel's focus is simply to get attention off of the Ghz and back on things that also matter. The thing is, the system is confusing because there is no standard first number to designate Celeron or Xeon or anything like that, so even while the numbers don't appear to be Mhz like AMD's system, there is no real pattern to follow.

I agree that Intel should push other factors to the consumer, but they should have recognized that two or three aspects of a chip attract people (MHz, FSB, cache) and made those prominent/easier to decipher in a product name -- instead of settling for meaningless digits.
 
Tweak Monkey said:
A 325 is better than a 318, it has nothing to do w/ its horsepower or anything on the car,
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Actually, it does. The first digit is the body style series, and the last two digits are the engine displacement. A 3-series with a 3.0 liter engine is a 330.

They add letters at the end for different options. "ix" is all-wheel drive, "ic" is for convertibles. You can find lots of pictures of a nice 325is here.

Funny thing is, BMW also sells the X3, the X5. Plus the M3 and M5. Maybe numbers aren't enough; why didn't Intel learn from BMW before changing the scheme?

More directly, I'm not sure it's such a great idea. Maybe it's more marketable to non-technical types, but it's hard for technical guys to remember mappings to real features. I guess the non-technical types are more important, though; they have the bigger budgets.

.B ekiM
 
Well, the M denotes that it's the high performance model of that body style, and I believe the X is for SUV's, but I'm not sure. I know the X5 is an SUV, but what the hell is the X3?
 
I don't like intel's number scheme. the GHz madness will never die. it's just not possible. if you have 2 of the same chips but one is clocked higher then the other, the one with the higher clock is always going to perform better. that's just something you can't take away. Intel needs to find a way to make high speed, low power, low heat chips. that's going to be the real challenge for them, not fighting off AMD or anything like that.
 
MPython8118 said:
Well, the M denotes that it's the high performance model of that body style,
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Yeah, I know. I drive an M3 to work, and a 325is on weekends. Was my point too subtle for you?

MPython8118 said:
and I believe the X is for SUV's,
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Yeah, except that BMW calls them "SAV's", for "Sports activity vechicles".

MPython8118 said:
but what the hell is the X3?
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It's a god-damned SAV from BMW!

.B ekiM
 
bountyhunter said:
if you have 2 of the same chips but one is clocked higher then the other, the one with the higher clock is always going to perform better.
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Problem is, Intel sells a few different lines of chips. People who buy them want to know their relative performance potential, and Intel needs to express that in a way that can be learned at-a-glance.

.B ekiM
 
Ou7k4st said:
Isn't that backwards? ;)
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Not at all.

The M3 isn't classed very well; I'd have to run it against Vipers and Corvettes, and it wouldn't stand much of a chance. The 325 cars are classed competitively, so I race mostly against 240Z's and Acrua Integras and enjoy lots of door-to-door time.

Porsche, BMW, Nissan, Volvo, and Saab use lots of numbers for their car models. Seems like everyone else uses names. I wonder how each company came to use each strategy.

.B ekiM
 
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