Intel getting completely destroyed on Twitter

Discussion in 'Intel Processors' started by alxlwson, May 29, 2019.

  1. alxlwson

    alxlwson You Know Where I Live

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    Now, I only have a Twitter for social media contests. I was looking through Intel today, and well....

     
  2. KillA_KIA

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    Yeah, Inhell got destroyed and is on the verge of an all out revolution. They've been so stuck in status quo that when AMD fired their big guns, Inhell was lax and failed in response. Guess crappy people will never understand the fraud committed by Inhell. Just like AMDs FX fraud, Inhell has it too. I'll be going for a 3900X for $499 and have enough for the next Nvidia or AMD GPU...Maybe an Intel GPU, if they're not fraudulent pieces of crap.
     
  3. alxlwson

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    Anyone with a differing viewpoint is a fanboy?
     
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  4. alxlwson

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    Really wouldn't surprise me if the Intel GPU destroys nVidia and AMD
     
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    Kyle left?
    He's been here the whole time. Lurkmoar.

    Neither. But keep in mind, there are only so many ways to do it, and Nvidia + AMD have cornerstoned that section of the IP supermarket...
     
  6. alxlwson

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    True... But does the x86 licencing agreement include other things or just x86?
     
  7. Master_shake_

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    yeah a cross-licensing deal with AMD for AMD64
     
  8. lostin3d

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    I'd say that rather looking at it as Intel being destroyed on Twitter we should all be celebrating the first real of destruction of 4c/8t mass production. Sure they're still around but I don't ever remember seeing so many products from red or blue offering so many different options beyond that 4c/8t barrier. It's downright amazing to me you can easily find laptops with 6/12 or more now. Both companies have had offerings over the last decade but this renewed competition between them has brought about some exciting new gens in the last 18 months with near daily reveals of things in the pipeline.

    Don't get me wrong. I've been bashing Intel since 3rd or 4th gen I7's for the lackluster gains but it wasn't until after Ryzen that I began liking AMD again and it was the exhaustive reviews and testing done here at [H]ard that won me over. Not much fan of twitter but no denying it's influences on the world.

     
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  9. JRZoid

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    I never cared much either way...I like the Deals and AMD has always been that Route...if it was a significant jump in performance I would get it..either way if not bad pricing...

    And AMD continuing being AWESOME in not having to buy a new mobo for a better drop in replacement..We are gonna be able to Flash and drop in more firepower real soon.
     
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    People will buy what they want to buy & it shouldn't bother anybody what someone else is running or prefers. That's the joys of CUSTOM building systems. Do I really care about a few extra points in a synthetic benchmark which means nothing me in real world performance? If I wanted bang for buck to just play games on, I would use a PS4 &/or a X-Box ONE as at least I know that the games will run on those platforms & not potentially suffer random glitching (unless it is poorly coded then everybody will suffer the same thing). The world would be a boring place if everyone drove around in the same cars, wore the same clothes, eat the same food, etc. It is called CHOICE & unless you live in China or North Korea, you should just be thankful that you have that available to you in life. There is no right or wrong choice, only what is right for YOU.
     
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    I just hope competition continues. We've learned from the last 10 years that lack of competition is disappointing for everyone.
     
  12. Criticalhitkoala

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    This is one of those post that a person will go back to in ten years and realize how "edgy" they were trying so hard to be and outright be embarrassed about themselves.
     
  13. Criticalhitkoala

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    I do find it weird that we rather blame the companies and not also just recognize that Intel gave us a platform that has worked for almost a decade. As a person who likes Toyotas because of their long time value, I feel like this should be brought up more.

    Yeah my Intel chips were more expensive, but my 5960x is still very capable now and will churn a few more years without issues. It's not Intel either. While pretty much declared awful, bull dozer chips from amd actually still do work good enough for most people half a decade after the fact.

    While on some points I agree with pointing fingers at companies and screaming "compete!", I also kinda think we were spoiled as balls and a lot people want the unreasonable in 150% the performance for 75% the price. And if they don't get that they blame it on a lack of competition.
     
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    As a long time AMD builder who switched after the bulldozer debacle, I would tend to agree. As you can see in my SIG I have 3 Intel boxes doing the most important things in my home. I bought all three processors used and they still kick ass for what I need them to do. So I completely agree on the value over time aspect.
     
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    intel is buthurt xD some desperate reminders haha
     
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    I love AMD, I used them for years after my first real gaming build, a Slot A 850mhz Athlon. Then for several Socket A builds, finally culminating with an Opteron 939 build. But then I went 775 Q9300, i5 2500K and my current antique i7 2600K on Z68. I think Ryzen is a boon for us, but don't expect Intel to stand by as long as they did with Athlon whipping Netburst. If I were to build a value rig for this gen, it would surely be Ryzen 2 all the way. AMD is just the value king once again, I hope there are no issues on the horizon for these platforms, we need AMD to push the market in both CPU and GPU value.
     
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    I just came here to say I have zero regrets having recently purchased a 9900k
     
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    Happy with my 9900K as well... I do wish though it had another 16 lanes (across 2 more slots) directly connected to CPU (add-in cards like 905P and X550)
     
  19. compgeek89

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    How much did you pay?
     
  20. Keljian

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    About 490 USD after conversion. Taking into account that here (Australia) processors especially cost more.

    I got (as mentioned in other threads):
    1. A mature platform
    2. A fast processor
    3. A fancy box
    I confess the latter really doesn't matter to me, and will either be sold on ebay for $50 or sit on the shelf for when I sell the processor in the future, or maybe I'll just keep it.

    Do I care that AMD have a faster, cheaper processor due out in about 20 days? not really. Stability and compatibility are king, and I use "corner case" software occasionally. Loss of work due to crashes costs me money.
     
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    I don't get what the big deal is over who likes AMD or Intel. You like what you like and I like what I like so who cares. I have no brand loyalty, but have used Intel over my last few builds and have found them to be stable. I also have no problem with going back to AMD if I feel it's what I want to do. The bottom line is competition is great so everyone wins.
     
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    Corner cases eh...

    I got the 1950X for $450 in November. Idk what you could get it for in Australia, but the 9900k was not a competitive choice here.
     
  23. compgeek89

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    I agree on competition. But I think it's legitimate to question why someone would buy an Intel offering over AMD given the price and options these days. Not about being a fanboy. I didn't even consider AMD for almost 10 years.
     
  24. Keljian

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    $755.45 United States Dollars here at the moment - That's a far cry from the 490USD I spent on the 9900k.

    For reference the 2950x is $920 USD at the moment.

    http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf is updated daily and our equivalent to microcenter (a discount computer seller), in AUD. Gives you a ballpark of what things cost here.

    http://staticice.com.au gives you a price search engine for pricing on various components

    Sometimes you can get better deals new on eBay from Australian stores, but it gives you a decent price ballpark

    Google will do the currency conversions for you.
     
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  25. compgeek89

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    Have you considered grabbing one on the forums here?
     
  26. Keljian

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    Shipping kills it.
     
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    How much is shipping?
     
  28. Niner21

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    Why would you question anyone on how they would like to spend their money? Everyone has their reasons, and there is no reason to defend yourself as being a "fanboy" or not. If you like AMD or Intel at the moment then that's your decision.
     
  29. compgeek89

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    For the exact same reason you would ask that question.
     
  30. Keljian

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    About 80-100$ USD on the 9900k (when you consider a 25cm square box or so), then you have 10% GST which gets added to low value imports, so 10% on top of the purchase price, and insurance.

    For the difference in price, unless it's substantial, local warranty trumps overseas purchases like that.

    The cheapest shipping (about $15 usd) is on usps small padded envelopes, which I have asked for shipment on a few times, but no insurance, and potential for damage is higher. Even small boxes are expensive.

    About 8 years ago I traveled to the USA on business and bought a 3770 for a fraction (maybe 2/3?) of the price locally from microcenter in Chicago.... it's worth it if you're there for another reason.
     
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  31. xorbe

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    That's uncharacteristically cringey for Intel to post.
     
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  32. Mr. Bluntman

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    I have the next step down, a 5930K, and it still is fast enough for nearly anything I want to do. I can't say the same for my GTX 970, which is the same age.

    And out of the five or six people I know personally that have gaming PCs, three of them are still running AMD FX CPUs (one 6300, one 8320, and one 8350, IIRC) - proof that for some, FX was good enough.
     
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    I must say back in the day when AMD was getting whipped with their lack of CPU performance one thing did put them ahead in a lot of instances. Basically the majority of the AMD motherboards (even the budget ones) were far better equipped than their Intel counterparts.

    For quite a while you could get a budget M-ATX AMD MB with a usable iGPU/USB3/DVI/eSATA/Firewire etc. while the equivalent Intel board wanted $20 more for just 4 USB2 ports, VGA, 3 x PCI slots and a serial port.

    Thanks Intel you were really spoiling us!
     
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    I'm still running FM2+ series CPUs! Athlon X4 860ks to be exact, in three boxes in my household, all OC'd with tower coolers, with SSDs and A88X chipset mobos and 1866 or 2133 RAM. All perform pretty much any task asked of them with no drama. All are extremely stable with no crashes that come to mind in the last few years.
     
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    Intel should only let people familiar with sentence structure and grammar write their tweets.

    My 8700k is just fine for what I do and will continue to be for at least the next couple of years.

    I regret two CPU purchases in my life: an AMD K6-2 and that damn Slot 1 Celeron. My Opty was the only processor I ever truly loved.
     
  36. spine

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    Based on what evidence or precedence? o_O

    You'd be abjectly stupid to presume Intel would 'destroy' both AMD and Nvidia in GPUs. :wacky:
     
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    It won't surprise me a bit if we see Intel enter the gaming market much like AMD talks about Navi - its new and brings with it new features to gaming, just the beginning to what's to come, etc, etc, etc...

    nVidia has to be loving some of the pressure being off them and on Intel, AMD - Let's see where nVidia takes 7nm, let's see if the competition remains so weak they only need to do minor refreshes with better clocks and price adjustments... My opinion, nVidia is NOT Intel, if pushed, they have a deep development cycle from which they could respond (and perhaps are very ready to do so be it Intel or AMD that releases something more directly competitive performance and feature wise at the upper most ends).
     
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    It's all about the patents. Intel has a massive uphill struggle here in order to compete and literally has to invent everything from scratch.

    Hence hiring Raja.
     
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    Raja, Jim Keller a few "choice" other folks in the tech industry.

    Even then IP is a very expensive thing to be screwing with, Intel or not. I am pretty sure them courts would not play ball being dragged into familiar scene of AMD pointing at Intel's ill gotten marketshare etc.

    Intel has $$$$$$$$$, but, how long can that last when they are quite behind relatively speaking on their process shrinks and the like (which allowed them, at least part of the reason) they could and did charge whatever they wanted...even if what they just sold you cost a few nickels...

    Intel and their GPU will prove interesting, there is much they can do that is "free game" though there is just as much that is quite trade secret covered by who knows how many international laws...

    they could just make anyways, be barred from sale from almost everywhere and still be laughing all the way to the bank.. such things happen when you can piss billions do what you want when you want and not feel bad about it...

    is that not right Jensen Huang
     
  40. Dadebraafsie

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    intel isnt bothered by amd's potential uprise on cpu side , just check both companies revenues . intel is about ten times bigger .
    Amd might have a better product on their hands for now , the upcomming weeks will prove it or not . i'm leaning back to amd since the A64 .
    after that i had C2d and still running a 3770k . the cpu is still good for gaming since 2012 .