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Intel getting completely destroyed on Twitter

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alxlwson

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Now, I only have a Twitter for social media contests. I was looking through Intel today, and well....

 
Yeah, Inhell got destroyed and is on the verge of an all out revolution. They've been so stuck in status quo that when AMD fired their big guns, Inhell was lax and failed in response. Guess crappy people will never understand the fraud committed by Inhell. Just like AMDs FX fraud, Inhell has it too. I'll be going for a 3900X for $499 and have enough for the next Nvidia or AMD GPU...Maybe an Intel GPU, if they're not fraudulent pieces of crap.
 
KillA_KIA said:
Yeah, Inhell got destroyed and is on the verge of an all out revolution. They've been so stuck in status quo that when AMD fired their big guns, Inhell was lax and failed in response. Guess crappy people will never understand the fraud committed by Inhell. Just like AMDs FX fraud, Inhell has it too. I'll be going for a 3900X for $499 and have enough for the next Nvidia or AMD GPU...Maybe an Intel GPU, if they're not fraudulent pieces of crap.
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Really wouldn't surprise me if the Intel GPU destroys nVidia and AMD
 
shaolin95 said:
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Guess this is what the forum has become after Kyle left...b..hurtt fanboys trolling
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Kyle left?
He's been here the whole time. Lurkmoar.

alxlwson said:
Really wouldn't surprise me if the Intel GPU destroys nVidia and AMD
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Neither. But keep in mind, there are only so many ways to do it, and Nvidia + AMD have cornerstoned that section of the IP supermarket...
 
N4CR said:
Kyle left?
He's been here the whole time. Lurkmoar.


Neither. But keep in mind, there are only so many ways to do it, and Nvidia + AMD have cornerstoned that section of the IP supermarket...
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True... But does the x86 licencing agreement include other things or just x86?
 
I'd say that rather looking at it as Intel being destroyed on Twitter we should all be celebrating the first real of destruction of 4c/8t mass production. Sure they're still around but I don't ever remember seeing so many products from red or blue offering so many different options beyond that 4c/8t barrier. It's downright amazing to me you can easily find laptops with 6/12 or more now. Both companies have had offerings over the last decade but this renewed competition between them has brought about some exciting new gens in the last 18 months with near daily reveals of things in the pipeline.

Don't get me wrong. I've been bashing Intel since 3rd or 4th gen I7's for the lackluster gains but it wasn't until after Ryzen that I began liking AMD again and it was the exhaustive reviews and testing done here at [H]ard that won me over. Not much fan of twitter but no denying it's influences on the world.

 
I never cared much either way...I like the Deals and AMD has always been that Route...if it was a significant jump in performance I would get it..either way if not bad pricing...

And AMD continuing being AWESOME in not having to buy a new mobo for a better drop in replacement..We are gonna be able to Flash and drop in more firepower real soon.
 
People will buy what they want to buy & it shouldn't bother anybody what someone else is running or prefers. That's the joys of CUSTOM building systems. Do I really care about a few extra points in a synthetic benchmark which means nothing me in real world performance? If I wanted bang for buck to just play games on, I would use a PS4 &/or a X-Box ONE as at least I know that the games will run on those platforms & not potentially suffer random glitching (unless it is poorly coded then everybody will suffer the same thing). The world would be a boring place if everyone drove around in the same cars, wore the same clothes, eat the same food, etc. It is called CHOICE & unless you live in China or North Korea, you should just be thankful that you have that available to you in life. There is no right or wrong choice, only what is right for YOU.
 
KillA_KIA said:
Yeah, Inhell got destroyed and is on the verge of an all out revolution. They've been so stuck in status quo that when AMD fired their big guns, Inhell was lax and failed in response. Guess crappy people will never understand the fraud committed by Inhell. Just like AMDs FX fraud, Inhell has it too. I'll be going for a 3900X for $499 and have enough for the next Nvidia or AMD GPU...Maybe an Intel GPU, if they're not fraudulent pieces of crap.
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This is one of those post that a person will go back to in ten years and realize how "edgy" they were trying so hard to be and outright be embarrassed about themselves.
 
compgeek89 said:
I just hope competition continues. We've learned from the last 10 years that lack of competition is disappointing for everyone.
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I do find it weird that we rather blame the companies and not also just recognize that Intel gave us a platform that has worked for almost a decade. As a person who likes Toyotas because of their long time value, I feel like this should be brought up more.

Yeah my Intel chips were more expensive, but my 5960x is still very capable now and will churn a few more years without issues. It's not Intel either. While pretty much declared awful, bull dozer chips from amd actually still do work good enough for most people half a decade after the fact.

While on some points I agree with pointing fingers at companies and screaming "compete!", I also kinda think we were spoiled as balls and a lot people want the unreasonable in 150% the performance for 75% the price. And if they don't get that they blame it on a lack of competition.
 
trentchau said:
I do find it weird that we rather blame the companies and not also just recognize that Intel gave us a platform that has worked for almost a decade. As a person who likes Toyotas because of their long time value, I feel like this should be brought up more.
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As a long time AMD builder who switched after the bulldozer debacle, I would tend to agree. As you can see in my SIG I have 3 Intel boxes doing the most important things in my home. I bought all three processors used and they still kick ass for what I need them to do. So I completely agree on the value over time aspect.
 
I love AMD, I used them for years after my first real gaming build, a Slot A 850mhz Athlon. Then for several Socket A builds, finally culminating with an Opteron 939 build. But then I went 775 Q9300, i5 2500K and my current antique i7 2600K on Z68. I think Ryzen is a boon for us, but don't expect Intel to stand by as long as they did with Athlon whipping Netburst. If I were to build a value rig for this gen, it would surely be Ryzen 2 all the way. AMD is just the value king once again, I hope there are no issues on the horizon for these platforms, we need AMD to push the market in both CPU and GPU value.
 
I don't get what the big deal is over who likes AMD or Intel. You like what you like and I like what I like so who cares. I have no brand loyalty, but have used Intel over my last few builds and have found them to be stable. I also have no problem with going back to AMD if I feel it's what I want to do. The bottom line is competition is great so everyone wins.
 
Corner cases eh...

I got the 1950X for $450 in November. Idk what you could get it for in Australia, but the 9900k was not a competitive choice here.
 
Niner21 said:
I don't get what the big deal is over who likes AMD or Intel. You like what you like and I like what I like so who cares. I have no brand loyalty, but have used Intel over my last few builds and have found them to be stable. I also have no problem with going back to AMD if I feel it's what I want to do. The bottom line is competition is great so everyone wins.
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I agree on competition. But I think it's legitimate to question why someone would buy an Intel offering over AMD given the price and options these days. Not about being a fanboy. I didn't even consider AMD for almost 10 years.
 
compgeek89 said:
I agree on competition. But I think it's legitimate to question why someone would buy an Intel offering over AMD given the price and options these days. Not about being a fanboy. I didn't even consider AMD for almost 10 years.
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Why would you question anyone on how they would like to spend their money? Everyone has their reasons, and there is no reason to defend yourself as being a "fanboy" or not. If you like AMD or Intel at the moment then that's your decision.
 
Niner21 said:
Why would you question anyone on how they would like to spend their money? Everyone has their reasons, and there is no reason to defend yourself as being a "fanboy" or not. If you like AMD or Intel at the moment then that's your decision.
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For the exact same reason you would ask that question.
 
trentchau said:
I do find it weird that we rather blame the companies and not also just recognize that Intel gave us a platform that has worked for almost a decade. As a person who likes Toyotas because of their long time value, I feel like this should be brought up more.

Yeah my Intel chips were more expensive, but my 5960x is still very capable now and will churn a few more years without issues. It's not Intel either. While pretty much declared awful, bull dozer chips from amd actually still do work good enough for most people half a decade after the fact.

While on some points I agree with pointing fingers at companies and screaming "compete!", I also kinda think we were spoiled as balls and a lot people want the unreasonable in 150% the performance for 75% the price. And if they don't get that they blame it on a lack of competition.
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I have the next step down, a 5930K, and it still is fast enough for nearly anything I want to do. I can't say the same for my GTX 970, which is the same age.

And out of the five or six people I know personally that have gaming PCs, three of them are still running AMD FX CPUs (one 6300, one 8320, and one 8350, IIRC) - proof that for some, FX was good enough.
 
I must say back in the day when AMD was getting whipped with their lack of CPU performance one thing did put them ahead in a lot of instances. Basically the majority of the AMD motherboards (even the budget ones) were far better equipped than their Intel counterparts.

For quite a while you could get a budget M-ATX AMD MB with a usable iGPU/USB3/DVI/eSATA/Firewire etc. while the equivalent Intel board wanted $20 more for just 4 USB2 ports, VGA, 3 x PCI slots and a serial port.

Thanks Intel you were really spoiling us!
 
Mr. Bluntman said:
I have the next step down, a 5930K, and it still is fast enough for nearly anything I want to do. I can't say the same for my GTX 970, which is the same age.

And out of the five or six people I know personally that have gaming PCs, three of them are still running AMD FX CPUs (one 6300, one 8320, and one 8350, IIRC) - proof that for some, FX was good enough.
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I'm still running FM2+ series CPUs! Athlon X4 860ks to be exact, in three boxes in my household, all OC'd with tower coolers, with SSDs and A88X chipset mobos and 1866 or 2133 RAM. All perform pretty much any task asked of them with no drama. All are extremely stable with no crashes that come to mind in the last few years.
 
Intel should only let people familiar with sentence structure and grammar write their tweets.

My 8700k is just fine for what I do and will continue to be for at least the next couple of years.

I regret two CPU purchases in my life: an AMD K6-2 and that damn Slot 1 Celeron. My Opty was the only processor I ever truly loved.
 
spine said:
Based on what evidence or precedence? o_O

You'd be abjectly stupid to presume Intel would 'destroy' both AMD and Nvidia in GPUs. :wacky:
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It won't surprise me a bit if we see Intel enter the gaming market much like AMD talks about Navi - its new and brings with it new features to gaming, just the beginning to what's to come, etc, etc, etc...

nVidia has to be loving some of the pressure being off them and on Intel, AMD - Let's see where nVidia takes 7nm, let's see if the competition remains so weak they only need to do minor refreshes with better clocks and price adjustments... My opinion, nVidia is NOT Intel, if pushed, they have a deep development cycle from which they could respond (and perhaps are very ready to do so be it Intel or AMD that releases something more directly competitive performance and feature wise at the upper most ends).
 
It's all about the patents. Intel has a massive uphill struggle here in order to compete and literally has to invent everything from scratch.

Hence hiring Raja.
 
spine said:
It's all about the patents. Intel has a massive uphill struggle here in order to compete and literally has to invent everything from scratch.

Hence hiring Raja.
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Raja, Jim Keller a few "choice" other folks in the tech industry.

Even then IP is a very expensive thing to be screwing with, Intel or not. I am pretty sure them courts would not play ball being dragged into familiar scene of AMD pointing at Intel's ill gotten marketshare etc.

Intel has $$$$$$$$$, but, how long can that last when they are quite behind relatively speaking on their process shrinks and the like (which allowed them, at least part of the reason) they could and did charge whatever they wanted...even if what they just sold you cost a few nickels...

Intel and their GPU will prove interesting, there is much they can do that is "free game" though there is just as much that is quite trade secret covered by who knows how many international laws...

they could just make anyways, be barred from sale from almost everywhere and still be laughing all the way to the bank.. such things happen when you can piss billions do what you want when you want and not feel bad about it...

is that not right Jensen Huang
 
intel isnt bothered by amd's potential uprise on cpu side , just check both companies revenues . intel is about ten times bigger .
Amd might have a better product on their hands for now , the upcomming weeks will prove it or not . i'm leaning back to amd since the A64 .
after that i had C2d and still running a 3770k . the cpu is still good for gaming since 2012 .
 
alxlwson said:
You really think that Intel is going to enter this space haphazardly?
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There’s a big gap between haphazardly and destroy two companies that have been building HIGH and GPUs for decades. To think they are going to destroy their competition on their first attempt is nothing short of retarded.

Oh and lookup Larrabee. They’ve tried once before and failed before it even started.

Let’s also not forget they’re been doing integrated on-die for years and they aren’t as good as APUs from AMD. What makes
You think they’ll destroy discrete graphics when they haven’t been able to destroy the APU?
 
Hopefully Intel comes back really strong with better CPUs then we all win. Their pricing still sucks and will be worst once Ryzen 3 hits the streets. The market may force them to reduce pricing once they start having inventory build up which may take awhile. I am not sure AMD will be able to have enough CPU's produced to saturate the market with TSMC, make headway is about it.

GPU wise, Intel with a clean slat, learn from all the previous GPU designs, not limited by having to be backwards compatible, sufficient R&D funds and add in some rather nice talent => Does indeed improve of the odds for a very innovative design. They can also extend the cross-licensing with AMD with GPU technology which AMD could also benefit from the R&D money spent by Intel to create a GPU, also previous Nvidia Patents that they may have patents that Intel has a license to use. Maybe an interesting read:
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alxlwson said:
Really wouldn't surprise me if the Intel GPU destroys nVidia and AMD
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Why would you think that? Intel does have deep pockets and a serious desire to get into that market. Those are all things in its favor. However, Intel lacks the experience in this area and it will take time to develop an architecture that's competitive. Intel isn't building a GPU that can beat today's Radeon 5700XT or NVIDIA's RTX 2080 Ti. They are trying to build a GPU that beats whatever its competition has in two to three years from now. Nothing about that sounds remotely easy.

viivo said:
Intel should only let people familiar with sentence structure and grammar write their tweets.

My 8700k is just fine for what I do and will continue to be for at least the next couple of years.

I regret two CPU purchases in my life: an AMD K6-2 and that damn Slot 1 Celeron. My Opty was the only processor I ever truly loved.
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Honestly, my Core i7 920 C0 was the only CPU I think I might have regretted purchasing. My dual QX9775's @ 4.0GHz were doing very nicely. We were still largely GPU dependent even then and despite the D5400XS's dependence on slow FB-DIMMs, I didn't really get much out of the "upgrade." I wanted the newer platform, and on paper it sounded better. PCI-Express 2.0, faster DDR3 RAM, etc. just didn't do anything for me in the real world at the time. What was even worse is that my Core i7 920 C0 actually clocked better than my later D0. So I suppose I really regret buying the latter, given that I sold the former to finance the purchase. The follow up Core i7 980X on the other hand was a processor that I very much felt good about purchasing. I got a deal on it at Microcenter. I think I paid about $799.99 for it. Microcenter was slashing prices because the Core i7 990X just hit and the 100MHz clock speed increase wasn't worth the extra cost to me. My 980X was also a stellar overclocker.

nEo717 said:
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It won't surprise me a bit if we see Intel enter the gaming market much like AMD talks about Navi - its new and brings with it new features to gaming, just the beginning to what's to come, etc, etc, etc...

nVidia has to be loving some of the pressure being off them and on Intel, AMD - Let's see where nVidia takes 7nm, let's see if the competition remains so weak they only need to do minor refreshes with better clocks and price adjustments... My opinion, nVidia is NOT Intel, if pushed, they have a deep development cycle from which they could respond (and perhaps are very ready to do so be it Intel or AMD that releases something more directly competitive performance and feature wise at the upper most ends).
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NVIDIA's success is largely due to the fact that the company never rests on its laurels. They've always got something in the works and are rarely caught off guard. ATi and later AMD have had a very hard time competing due to NVIDIA's aggressive development cycles. If you believe all the tinfoil hat crap about NVIDIA, they are even further ahead than we think they are and they drop better cards out only when they feel they need to. But they are a good generation or two ahead of where we think they are. I don't know if I believe that, but it does seem like they release something but always have more in reserve just in case they feel threatened.

alxlwson said:
You really think that Intel is going to enter this space haphazardly?
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No, but they have before. Intel has made two attempts at the GPU market before. The first one failed miserably. Larrabee never even saw the light of day.

RamonGTP said:
There’s a big gap between haphazardly and destroy two companies that have been building HIGH and GPUs for decades. To think they are going to destroy their competition on their first attempt is nothing short of retarded.

Oh and lookup Larrabee. They’ve tried once before and failed before it even started.

Let’s also not forget they’re been doing integrated on-die for years and they aren’t as good as APUs from AMD. What makes
You think they’ll destroy discrete graphics when they haven’t been able to destroy the APU?
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Don't forget about Intel's i740 graphics cards. Those were a dismal failure. I agree with you. Again, Intel's got to compete with future AMD and NVIDIA products. That's not easily done. I expect Intel will release something that's probably a good mid-range card or better which can succeed if priced right. I expect it will be at least a generation or two after that before it truly competes. I think Intel really has the desire to get into the gaming industry in this way, which will eventually lead to some success at least, but its not going to be easy. This is a very long term strategy that still might not pay off for them.
 
Dan_D said:
NVIDIA's success is largely due to the fact that the company never rests on its laurels. They've always got something in the works and are rarely caught off guard. ATi and later AMD have had a very hard time competing due to NVIDIA's aggressive development cycles.
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Underhanded tactics and bullying didn't hurt, either.
 
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