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Intel Core Solo

MrFace

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I thought these chips were supposed to be pretty nice? I have a 1.86ghz Core Solo in my laptop and these are the Sandra scores:

Dhrystone ALU: 2682 MIPS
Whetstone FPU: 2503

These are absolutely horrendous scores in my opinion, less than a 1.6ghz Athlon XP!

What gives? I thought these were supposed to be halfway decent? :confused:
 
Poncho said:
Yea... cause good in benchmarks = performance. :rolleyes:

Actually, yes, scoring higher in Sandra would indicate a good processor. It looks like my problem is the damn thing is throttling itself to 800mhz. There is no BIOS option to turn this off either
:mad:
 
MrFace said:
Actually, yes, scoring higher in Sandra would indicate a good processor. It looks like my problem is the damn thing is throttling itself to 800mhz. There is no BIOS option to turn this off either
:mad:

:rolleyes: Ever try power management under the control panel? You may want to know how to use what you have before coming in and waxing intellectual about performance and benchmarks.
 
Poncho said:
:rolleyes: Ever try power management under the control panel? You may want to know how to use what you have before coming in and waxing intellectual about performance and benchmarks.

There is no power control option, please stop talking to me like a retard.
 
MrFace said:
Actually, yes, scoring higher in Sandra would indicate a good processor. It looks like my problem is the damn thing is throttling itself to 800mhz. There is no BIOS option to turn this off either
:mad:
so you are complaining that a 800Mhz CS chip performs like a 1.6Ghz AXP? Am I missing something here?
Go mess with your power management in windows. If you want to suffer the battery life, try selecting something home office/desktop.
 
GLSauron said:
so you are complaining that a 800Mhz CS chip performs like a 1.6Ghz AXP? Am I missing something here?
Go mess with your power management in windows. If you want to suffer the battery life, try selecting something home office/desktop.

Power management control panel has nothing to do with this.
 
MrFace said:
Power management control panel has nothing to do with this.

Actually it does. You'll find that windows is the one doing the throttling of your CPU.
 
Poncho said:
Actually it does. You'll find that windows is the one doing the throttling of your CPU.

Then I'd appreciate if you could tell me where I could disable this.
 
MrFace said:
Then I'd appreciate if you could tell me where I could disable this.


The answer you seek is located in this thread. Go now and begin your search.

LOL
 
Poncho said:
The answer you seek is located in this thread. Go now and begin your search.

LOL

No, it isn't. Telling me check my power management control panel yields nothing that has to do with thermal throttling of my CPU.
 
Well thanks for nothing but smartass replies :p

I went to the Toshiba website and found an application for power management. I installed it and modified the settings for the processor to always stay at max power.

Me right, you wrong. Way to be a jackass Poncho :D
 
GLSauron said:
If you want to suffer the battery life, try selecting something home office/desktop.

No... ME right, YOU wrong.


Chalk this thread up as another one of the useless posts by people who should know better, yet won't take the 5 minuets to search the forums.
 
Its been talked about in countless Core 2 threads about enabling EIST by going to the screen saver tab, selecting power, then to use EIST where it lowers multiplier select laptop.

To turn off EIST (which is what you want to do), select Home/Office Desktop.
 
You may want to look into Notebook Hardware Control (Former Centrino Hardware Control) which allows you to manually select the CPU speed, provided that it supports your notebook. If you want to, you can turn the notebook to run at full speed all the time, or at 800 MHz all the time, saving energy.

The Core Solo is supposed to be rather powerful, I have the precursor to it in my notebook and its pretty nice.

link:
http://www.pbus-167.com/
 
Poncho said:


No... ME right, YOU wrong.


Chalk this thread up as another one of the useless posts by people who should know better, yet won't take the 5 minuets to search the forums.

You fail to understand that those settigs affect display and hard drive power settings, not my processor. Here is a screen shot of the Toshiba Utility I had to use:

poweropetosn.JPG
 
MrFace said:
You fail to understand that those settigs affect display and hard drive power settings, not my processor. Here is a screen shot of the Toshiba Utility I had to use:

poweropetosn.JPG

That toshiba thing gives you more control over everything like fan speed / cooling / screen brightness / etc.

But the power management in windows, when you change it from one mode to the other, it changes those 3 things to predefined times, but you can adjust them back to whatever you want. So all you're really changing is whether or not EIST kicks in.
 
chrisf6969 said:
That toshiba gives you more control over everything like fan speed / cooling.

But the power management in windows, when you change it from one mode to the other, it changes those 3 things to predefined times, but you can adjust them to whatever you want. So all you're really changing is whether or not EIST kicks in.

No, my windows power management does not affect my cpu throttling in any way. It may on desktop systems, but not on my laptop.

EDIT: And yes, I tried setting it to different power settings in the windows control panel. It was still dynamically clocking my chip.
 
It does affect laptop systems... But your benchmark shouldn't really be effected as laptops that are plugged in should throttle up soon as you start benchmarking...

Yes Poncho is an Jass.. Everybody knows that... He works for intel mind you and thinks everyone is below him...
 
Marvelous said:
Yes Poncho is an Jass.. Everybody knows that... He works for intel mind you and thinks everyone is below him...


While I agree I am a jackass.... I'm gonna call bullshit on the last part. I'm just tired of the level of retard that has been with threads on here lately. I pretty much knew it would happen when Conroe released. Seems we are getting a lot of the crap from the AMD side coming over here lowering our overall IQ. Threads like this belong in other sections of the forum, though a quick search here or on the net would have given the OP his answers a hell of a lot quicker and then he wouldn't have to clog up this forum with lame questions. But whatever... it's broken up my day a bit. Appreciate that. LOL
 
Poncho said:
While I agree I am a jackass.... I'm gonna call bullshit on the last part. I'm just tired of the level of retard that has been with threads on here lately. I pretty much knew it would happen when Conroe released. Seems we are getting a lot of the crap from the AMD side coming over here lowering our overall IQ. Threads like this belong in other sections of the forum, though a quick search here or on the net would have given the OP his answers a hell of a lot quicker and then he wouldn't have to clog up this forum with lame questions. But whatever... it's broken up my day a bit. Appreciate that. LOL

Actually, I did do a search for Intel Core solo throttling, and came up with nothing. Sorry to burst your bubble :) I also did search the net and found nothing. I found what I needed by checking out the downloads section of Toshiba's site for some sort of power management utility. You seem to miss this fact.

Also me having an AMD system has nothing to do with my level of intelligence.
 
MrFace said:
Actually, I did do a search for Intel Core solo throttling, and came up with nothing. Sorry to burst your bubble :) I also did search the net and found nothing. I found what I needed by checking out the downloads section of Toshiba's site for some sort of power management utility. You seem to miss this fact.

Also me having an AMD system has nothing to do with my level of intelligence.

Wow... took me about 10 seconds.... and I'm fairly drunk at the moment. Check the first link....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...06-34,GGLJ:en&q=disable+mobile+cpu+throttling

You obviously fail at the internet. /yourself please.
 
Stop.

You're using Windows Vista (a beta OS)? And complaining that it's slow?

LOL!

Load up XP and see what happens.
 
Poncho, you did answer him in a rude way at the first place
even though he asked politely.
"You may want to know how to use what you have before coming in"
If he knows it already, whats the point of asking?

"and waxing intellectual about performance and benchmarks."
Nobody has to post anything if they don't want too.
If somebody wants to help, then help.
Comments like that are the waste in database.

Now some admin need to lock this thread before it gets too deep ;)
 
Straying further off topic.

I feel for Poncho with the fustration of "stupid questions" in the forum lately.(not directed at OP) Everyone & their grandma are getting Core 2 systems, which is great! But they keep asking the same questions OVER & OVER. "How this build look?" & "How are my temps?" !!

There are TONS of threads on the same topic. A stickied thread about the Core 2 database. If someone wants to know what OC to expect (hope for) with a chip they can find it there. What motherboards, DDR2, HSF/coolers are OC'ing best its also in there.

So I've been politely telling people to use the search NEXT time & answering their question (albeit with slightly smart ass comments)! :)
 
I know the frustation from people asking the same question all the time, while searching is the first thing to do.
Especially with Core 2 D lately, want to know your temps, want to know which setup, which board and ram overclock best etc take a look at the first post in Intel forum..

Then, just ignore those people, don't have to answer them.
We could be bashing on new people who just found out about this great community

and I agree with straying out of topic twice ;)
 
Yes but being snappy has a tendency to make them want to use the search function next time or for them not to post. Either way it prevents the cluttering of "How is my temps", "Should I get e6400 or e6300", "How is my build" threads that I read every 10 minutes. If people would search for the answers first, like I do and thats why I have about 3-5 topics posted on this account in about 2-3 years, then they wouldn't get snappy responses that piss them off.

So in conclusion the search function is a wonderful tool and so is google. Learn to use them and you will find that the need to rely on random people seems to ween.
 
i think the issue isnt just that people are too lazy to search or just dont feel like it.....but alos that they feel the need to get just a little bit more attention by having people answer THEIR question about THEIR build, instead of just searching for some question that's already been answered.

that being said....its not going to change not matter how many times someone says "next time use the search." people will always keep asking the same questions for that attention and satisfaction it brings knowing someone is catering to them for that few minutes.
 
ASUDevil83 said:
people will always keep asking the same questions for that attention and satisfaction it brings knowing someone is catering to them for that few minutes.


Which is why I will ridicule these people while NOT answering their questions. :D Really... it serves a couple purposes. 1) I can make people aware of their own stupidity and 2) it entertains me at the most primal level and breaks up the monotony of my day nicely. LOL
 
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