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Intel Core I7 6950X Extreme Edition Broadwell-E CPU

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The crew at Overclockers Club have published a review of Intel's brand new Core I7 6950X Extreme Edition Broadwell-E processor. It looks as though, with the exception of pricing, they really liked this new CPU. Hit the link for the complete run down. Here's a quote from the full review to get you started.

While you have a bit of financial pain moving to the latest and greatest Extreme Edition processors, you are guaranteed a specific performance window for doing so. In my testing, I found there were very few scenarios where the Core i7 6950X did not exceed the performance of the previous generation Haswell-E Core i7 5960X. In just about every test, the additional core count and Turbo Boost speeds helped out performance. From rendering tasks to gaming, the Core i7 6950X does a great job leveraging the core count of the processor.
 
Looks like almost anything is a better deal than that.
It's like they want to push it into the xeon server chip pricing. The only difference is a slightly higher clock.
 
Intel is drunk. These prices are totally ridiculous. Pretty sure my i7-920 @ 3.8 Ghz will hold me until Zen anyway. I guess they are charging extra for that spytech in the cpu. Fuck you, Intel.
 
I think they just "went for it" price wise, they don't have nothing to lose, just gain. The portion of people who wants to buy it, which is really small to begin with - will buy it.

 
Completely fair price.

I remember an Intel engineer doing a "informal" poll. If we create a i7 10+ CPU, would that be worth a workstation price?

Everyone said YES!

Well finally here.
 
SpeedyVV said:
Completely fair price.

I remember an Intel engineer doing a "informal" poll. If we create a i7 10+ CPU, would that be worth a workstation price?

Everyone said YES!

Well finally here.
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And the initial batches on Newegg went, so SOMEBODY is buying them. Amazing how they can just slap a different label on silicon they're making for servers anyway and rake in the $$.
 
Yeah that is kinda expensive just for a chip you could get 4 top end motherboards for that price. The problem is no real world application except for Video Encoding =)
 
GothamsReckoning said:
Not for the better either. It's a new trend that's quite disturbing either. Pretty soon only those with deep pockets will be able to afford new hardware especially since Canadians have to pay a "Canadian" price premium on hardware thanks to our fantastically low dollar. If you think American pricing is just insane for the flagship part (I envy American pricing) the 6950X isn't even listed on our retailers in Canada yet but the price would be much more and with tax it's almost $2500 Canadian.
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Hopefully the tax will come here since none of these parts are made in the US. Hence we should have to pay the extra high prices that everyone else has to pay. Must be consistent with the bullshit.
 
Armenius said:
FYI: Guru3D is reporting the MSRP of the i7-6950X as $1,569. $1,723 as reported by Overclockers is the going price on eBay at the time the article was posted.
Core i7 6950X / 6900K / 6850K & 6800K Processor Review

Looks like the 6900K is the better deal at $999 unless you absolutely need the 2 extra cores in the 6950X.
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Pricing from what I have seen today (not sure about eBay) is closer to the $1750 range. [the i7-6950X]
 
microcenter here in Atlanta sent an ad out today that the price is $1599, which isn't bad when you do their mobo combos. I'll probably end up getting a 6900k to replace this 5930k.
 
I'm not seeing any full specs anywhere.
Does the 6950x have qpi links ?
Or am I still waiting on the Xeons?

:D
 
trentchau said:
microcenter here in Atlanta sent an ad out today that the price is $1599, which isn't bad when you do their mobo combos. I'll probably end up getting a 6900k to replace this 5930k.
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That price sounds about right for Microcenter. They always have cheaper prices on CPUs. I plan a trip up to Georgia in October to visit the folks so maybe...
 
trentchau said:
microcenter here in Atlanta sent an ad out today that the price is $1599, which isn't bad when you do their mobo combos. I'll probably end up getting a 6900k to replace this 5930k.
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Skott said:
That price sounds about right for Microcenter. They always have cheaper prices on CPUs. I plan a trip up to Georgia in October to visit the folks so maybe...
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Ah yes, good ol' MicroCenter, the ONLY place I buy CPUs from. Yeah I got the email newsletter advertising the $1600 price too. You can always count on them to knock an appreciable chunk of change off of those CPU prices. As much as the 6950X costs, any amount taken off dat insane price is definitely welcome.
 
I hate to be the barer of bad news, but Without competition, we're only going to see stagnant offerings at the same price and high performance for a higher price.

We aren't getting a 10 core for the same price as last-years 8 core, we are getting an 8 core for the same price as last-years 8 core, and a new 10-core that is in a new, more expensive bracket. Essentially, the performance per dollar stays the same.
 
DrezKill said:
Ah yes, good ol' MicroCenter, the ONLY place I buy CPUs from. Yeah I got the email newsletter advertising the $1600 price too. You can always count on them to knock an appreciable chunk of change off of those CPU prices. As much as the 6950X costs, any amount taken off dat insane price is definitely welcome.
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Best part is they also seem to have it Stock when I go there for stuff. It also helps that I live exactly between the two that's in georgia.
 
This is just not worth the price for me. From other reviews, the gaming aspect is just not up to par, and as others have stated, I might as well just go with a Xeon for any professional needs.
 
KazeoHin said:
I hate to be the barer of bad news, but Without competition, we're only going to see stagnant offerings at the same price and high performance for a higher price.

We aren't getting a 10 core for the same price as last-years 8 core, we are getting an 8 core for the same price as last-years 8 core, and a new 10-core that is in a new, more expensive bracket. Essentially, the performance per dollar stays the same.
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To be honest I'm comfortable with it. Intel is competiting with themselves. They aren't rehashing products but offering innovation through either speed or more options, and charging a cost for it.

It's not like they are taking a 5930k, relabelling it 6800k and saying "Buy our old stock!".

Yeah prices are gonna go up, but I don't mind paying an increase price for a very niche product that's not main stream at all. I don't NEED a 8 or 10 core proccessor, photography programs like photoshop and lightroom actually see more gains from raw clock speed on intel chips, but the gear head in me WANTS to at least have some stuff bleeding edge just to ride the wave. It was like this when the first ghz p3 came out for me, I spent $1k on that, a decade after that I was ok buying your basic shit, but recently got back into the high end stuff. It's fun, it's a luxury, and price comes with a luxury.

The lower tier products, which are insanely incredible and are only considered lower tier because of price bracket stays pretty consistent price wise. The 6700k wasn't much more expensive over a 4790k if I remember correctly, which wasn't much over a 4770k, 3770k, and 2600k. And the pretty much best gaming processor ever made i5k series has been consistent for a while while offering competitive evolution against each other gen after gen.
 
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GothamsReckoning said:
How exactly is Intel competing with themselves? For enthusiasts $1000 for a processor is the absolute limit/maximum and that's a very small percentage already. Now they are asking almost 70% more and that's in USD pricing. While there will still be demand and buyers for this Intel is essentially continuously raising prices on it's offerings and products especially with their flagship. In Canadian dollars (dollars is not the proper term considering it's value right now) the 6950X is at $2400 and that's without taxes. Add on for example 13% HST (Ontario as an example) and you are looking at $2712 with taxes just for a processor alone. The 6900K will also be priced quite high considering that the 5960X is selling for $1458 Canadian ($1648 with 13% HST).
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I've got an E5 2690 V4 (spicy version, 3GHz single core boost max) on the way for a mere $349.00 - and it will trade blows with a stock 6950X - which apparently won't overclock much higher than 4GHz on water without getting ridiculously hot. If you don't require the highest single thread performance available for horribly coded games/software, an Extra Spicy Xeon V4 might be a cheap but effective option.

I've already completed several benchmarks and saved screen shots so I can compare my 5820K to the 2690V4, and I'll post the results in the Intel section in case there is interest.
 
GothamsReckoning said:
That's an ES sample right? I might have to look into that as well. Was considering getting the E5 2690 V3 but I may try out the V4 Broadwell version as well.

Edit: Just saw the one you probably bought. Unfortunately it says my Gigabyte X99 motherboard doesn't support it nor will MSI X99 motherboards. That's a shame.
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It is an Extra Spicy version. We can't talk about Engineering Samples here without possibly running into issues.

Have you checked for any new BIOS releases? They might have added support and the seller isn't aware.
 
GothamsReckoning said:
Understood. What does the max turbo clock at with more than a few cores active (Intel ARK only gives turbo-frequency with 1 core maximum)?

Also you are right. Gigabyte released a bios update as of 5/30/2016 that adds V4 Xeon support and Broadwell-E/EP support so I assume that means the V4 E5-2690 is compatible?
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I think max all core turbo is 2.5GHz, but I'll find out for sure tomorrow night.

I had to call up EVGA and ask if the 2690V4 was supported as they didn't add any (Edit - Broadwell-E) Xeons to the compatibility lists. If Gigabyte didn't either, you might be able to call or email their support to find out like I did with EVGA.
 
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I remember quite clearly when the PII-300 came out and was selling like hotcakes for $800+. And I had more than a few friends buying 2 or 3 of them so they could have 1 for a gaming system, 1 for a workstation, and maybe another for a guest/spare system.

...because multitasking sucked before multi-core/SMP, and they required an individual system for their level of computing.

So, $1600 min for just the processors and they still had to move back and forth between multiple systems to multitask.

And here we are today, with an OC'able 10 core, for about that same price....and many are taking that for granted and bitching about the price tag. *sigh*

Truly fucking amazing times we live in, when you stop, reflect a bit, and realize the now vs then.
 
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Too bad your friends didn't have an ABIT BP6 xD

But yes, enthusiast CPUs at enthusiast prices.

Going to wait and see what Zen does as there might be more than just the Intel option. I need more cores for video encoding but don't want a big hit on single thread performance in gaming, when I have time for such things.
 
N4CR said:
Too bad your friends didn't have an ABIT BP6 xD

But yes, enthusiast CPUs at enthusiast prices.

Going to wait and see what Zen does as there might be more than just the Intel option. I need more cores for video encoding but don't want a big hit on single thread performance in gaming, when I have time for such things.
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BP6 was Socket 370 and didn't come out until 1999. This was regarding the PII-300 Slot 1 back in late 1997/early 1998. :)
 
DejaWiz said:
BP6 was Socket 370 and didn't come out until 1999. This was regarding the PII-300 Slot 1 back in late 1997/early 1998. :)
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I was going to say they should've waited but fair point, that's a bit of a wait lol! I do and don't miss those days. Your top of the range CPU was dogmeat in 2 years lol... crazy to think clockspeeds were 3x higher in 2-3 years!
 
N4CR said:
I was going to say they should've waited but fair point, that's a bit of a wait lol! I do and don't miss those days. Your top of the range CPU was dogmeat in 2 years lol... crazy to think clockspeeds were 3x higher in 2-3 years!
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SMP-capable Coppermine T 1000 MHz came out in mid-late 2000, and was priced around $450, iirc. $900 for a "dual core" 1GHz processor setup was a hell of a bargain back then, especially since AMD's Palomino-based Athlon MP wouldn't debut for at least half a year afterwards...and at only $180-300 a pop, depending on the model. ...Which left a lot of SMP CM-T 1GHz buyers pretty mad at Intel's pricing matrix...and the flop Netburst was thus propelled AMD into the CPU throne up until the C2D (and eventual C2Q) came out. And then Bulldozer happened. Been smooth sailing for Intel since. :(

I guess we shouldn't be mad at Intel. They've had every opportunity to jack prices up to PII-300 levels for their SB, IB, HWL, and SLK dual core i3's and leave us paying $1500+ for the non-enthusiast unlocked i7's, but they haven't.
 
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Nearly forgot the Athlon MP, weird little chip!

DejaWiz said:
I guess we shouldn't be mad at Intel. They've had every opportunity to jack prices up to PII-300 levels for their SB, IB, HWL, and SLK dual core i3's and leave us paying $1500+ for the non-enthusiast unlocked i7's, but they haven't.
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True that. Looks like they're starting to ever so slightly try a little harder though.

However, Nvidia is blazing that trail big time.
 
N4CR said:
Nearly forgot the Athlon MP, weird little chip!



True that. Looks like they're starting to ever so slightly try a little harder though.

However, Nvidia is blazing that trail big time.
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Figuring in inflation, the pricing really hasn't gone up much between the i7-2600K and the latest i7-6700K.

2600K was $320 in Jan 2011 when launched ($340 today adjusted for inflation).

6700K was (and still is) $350 when it launched last Aug.

A price jump equating to a ten dollar bill over the course of 4 1/2 years is still a hell of a lot less than I expected when intel has had almost no CPU competition.


nVidia...yeah. That's a whole 'nother conversation that belongs in a certain subforum at GenMay. :p
 
DejaWiz said:
A price jump equating to a ten dollar bill over the course of 4 1/2 years is still a hell of a lot less than I expected when intel has had almost no CPU competition.
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It was a little bit bigger here due to our hardware costing more but fair point, was more that I think in the enthusiast end though, especially with this new 10 core, things are getting a bit ridiculous when a new Xeon becomes attractive, let alone the used server pulls ;)

That said, not complaining. Even a 5960 would be a huge boost for me in encoding... serious time saver. I think this time if they don't clock so well, I'll go for a Xeon pull and spend the savings on a 128Gb supadooperSSD RAMDisk! 10nm will be interesting next year though - this is why I'd be apprehensive to splash out on a new 8-10 core when 5960s are 500USD used now... I'll do some digging and see what's going on..
 
N4CR , we are on the same page I think.
I do video editing/GoPro stuff on Adobe CC.....
I'm on the list for a pair of e5-2687w-v4's.
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Very expensive , but I'm trying to get into 4k video.
I hope it's enough.

:)
 
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DejaWiz said:
I remember quite clearly when the PII-300 came out and was selling like hotcakes for $800+. And I had more than a few friends buying 2 or 3 of them so they could have 1 for a gaming system, 1 for a workstation, and maybe another for a guest/spare system.

...because multitasking sucked before multi-core/SMP, and they required an individual system for their level of computing.

So, $1600 min for just the processors and they still had to move back and forth between multiple systems to multitask.

And here we are today, with an OC'able 10 core, for about that same price....and many are taking that for granted and bitching about the price tag. *sigh*

Truly fucking amazing times we live in, when you stop, reflect a bit, and realize the now vs then.
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Yeah and 200 MB of disk space cost $1,000 back then.
 
arestavo said:
I've got an E5 2690 V4 (spicy version, 3GHz single core boost max) on the way for a mere $349.00 - and it will trade blows with a stock 6950X - which apparently won't overclock much higher than 4GHz on water without getting ridiculously hot. If you don't require the highest single thread performance available for horribly coded games/software, an Extra Spicy Xeon V4 might be a cheap but effective option.

I've already completed several benchmarks and saved screen shots so I can compare my 5820K to the 2690V4, and I'll post the results in the Intel section in case there is interest.
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Bad news - about 30% worse average FPS than my 5820K for FPS in Valley and much lower minimum FPS, much lower minimum FPS in DX12 RoTTR but at least the average only went down by 3FPS, Result (which says it all), and I can't put a full load on it without it crashing my computer. Good thing the seller accepts returns.
 
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jwcalla said:
Yeah and 200 MB of disk space cost $1,000 back then.
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3-4GB were upper mid-range, 0.5-2GB were mainstream, 6-12GB were top end back in 1998. Prices were approx $160 for 6.4GB all the way up to $350+ for 12GB. This was in the Quantum Bigfoot 5.25" HDD era.
 
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