Intel C2750 8-core Atom Questions

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  1. Clickinaway

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  2. pxc

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    There's one seller on Amazon marketplace and eBay listing it for $600. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F0YS3CI

    I'd wait for it to hit other channels, or just purchase a whole server. The price will probably continue to be gouged since it's a very low volume product in the channel.

    8 lower performance cores can easily be outclassed by a quad core Haswell processor. It may even be cheaper to build around a mini ITX Haswell platform than that Atom motherboard since it's so ridiculously overpriced.
     
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    I know the price will be ridiculous....you're right on that.

    However, i'm starting to get the itch to build a small media server/home lab based on a very low power consumption (my home is off-grid and power usage is critical).

    I may still look at the S1260. Think I could get Hyper-V running on that? (I guess that's an entirely different question!)
     
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    the C2550 is worlds faster then the 1260 ...

    Asrock 4 coure C2550 board will be $350 estimated .... hoping for lower
     
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    You do realize that Haswell has the same aggressive idle power consumption limiting built-in as Atom right? While the motherboard makers will not be as aggressive to eliminate idle power on desktop boards, it's still going to be pretty impressive. The idle and low-load for the Core i7-4770K does not exceed 25w (that's the entire system draw) with a single notebook hard drive + 4GB + IGP.

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1347-page5.html

    You can pick up the Core i3 T variant now, which should offer similar performance to the Atom 8-cores. The i3-4130T version is rated at only 35w TDP, so that should keep PEAK power in-check:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116947

    But if that's too much, you can always go with a platform designed for mobile like the NUC and just plug in external hard drives. Still cheaper than the Atom option, and will again run circles around it!

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1315-page5.html

    And the new Haswell NUCs should be available shortly, and if you run these with Windows 8 and the advanced power states enabled, they use half the power of the old NUCs at idle:

    http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-nuc-kit-d54250wyk-review-the-nuc-gets-haswell-power_124251/6
     
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    off grid and internet????? <--- please explain?
    And good luck on low power storage/server
     
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    Its hard because every thread (on many forums) people just hatin' on the Atom...But the power consumption is hard to match. Maybe I should start a new thread....
     
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    I think the C2750 is a fantastic product for high density racks in certain applications where 1 thread maps to 1 CPU core. For a standalone 1P general purpose server? No, there are virtually no reasons to suggest such a high priced platform for that usage.
     
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    so low speed green harddrive or SSDs? what kind of connectivity cellular or satellite? airdrop 2TB drives full of media?
     
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    haven't decided on storage, but i'm also not looking to serve it up to anything except maybe a home wireless network and stream it...unless maybe i can BT out some music to another device.

    Satellite is the connection, could have 4G with another carrier, but my company wont opt for that.

    the cost of the c2750 i'll probably shake my head at, but its a huge leap for sure.

    Did you read the STH review I sent?

    I need to buckle down in finish my 'real' server build here at the office where power isn't a concern as we have multiple servers running already and room in the rack, but I like to keep a few irons in the fire...
     
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    Look at the C2550 and the dual core version. I am hoping for $300 or less for the board (with cpu)

    Asrock has one coming.
     
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    Okashira...that would be very tempting. I love the 32gigs of ram, but the supermicro s1260 has USB 3.0, sata III, dual Nic plus lights out. That's not bad and STH was clocking 16w under load with a platter drive. This release of the C2750 is a BIG leap forward even if you don't like it. Makes me think that next year will be addressing certain concerns...and with time cost will go down. :) gotta consider the 'tick tock' release structure of Intel. Still curious to see total system power consumption. Hopefully STH is on this...i should ask thr dude.
    The whole ARM vs Intel doesn't really mean anything to me until there is a better availability of consumer grade ARM server options. Especially for SFF.
     
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    Very nice indeed.. Even I am searching for cheap power options and you have shared a good one.. I think cost of installation will be very high
     
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    What did they use for the "load" test? The idle power consumption is pretty interesting, but I doubt that load figure represents anywhere near full load. $474 isn't a bad price for the server though. Much better than that overpriced board alone.
     
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    Obviously this proc line will be amazing once it hits the market in a more "mainstream" fashion, with more than a couple SuperMicro & ASRock boards as your only option. But I am coming from a more PC background than a server background. So what I want to know is how well something like the C2750 (and more interestingly, the C2730) would perform in a Win7/WinServer environment, and how it would directly compare with a typical Core iX counterpart? I don't mind dropping $300+ on a motherboard/CPU combo if it will provide me with ultra-low power consumption and a spec sheet that completely outclasses any other available sff board on the market. An LGA 1150 mini-ITX combo would cost you at least $150-250 anyway, and no matter what parts you pick, you'll never get the kind of power efficiency or board capabilities the SuperMicro & ASRock boards offer right now. Nevermind what kind of options you'll have when other manufacturers get onboard. Personally, I love the Asrock boards for a low-power but capable, tiny footprint NAS or home media serving option.
    I would even consider this as an option for a media ripping workstation with a small SSD OS drive, 4 HDD's in RAID 10 for temp storage, and up to 7 ODD's for simultaneous ripping. Leaving one thread/core per ODD, plus one for background OS duties. Unfortunately, no one is doing these kinds of media encoding/transcoding/ripping performance tests, so I don't know how bad it would compare in this situation with say; a Core i7 4765T. Something that by the way, would cost considerably more, with non-existent comparable motherboard options. Nevermind the RAMDisk advantages. A 28GB scratch drive would be very useful. It certainly has been on my HTPC.