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Intel 4500MHD

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Im looking at picking up a latitude e series, but I have 2 questions regarding the mobile 4500MHD.
1: Can it play high bitrate 1080p H264 (aka ripped movies) fine? Highest bitrate I have is 14GB over 2h:12m. Id want that to play smoothly. (also the single largest file I have)
2: Sins of a solar empire, at middle resolution, would it play smoothly (30fps, not 60)? Thatd be the most intensive gaming Id even consider. Would it work well enough?

Thanks
 
Intel cards suck. don't expect too much.

more specifically: no it probably cant play 1080p, because it cant offload the video from the cpu depending on which player you are using. The game might be playable but at the lowest resolution at the lowest settings.
 
most of the time you are going to better off getting a notebook with a ATI or Nvidia video solution. even the cheaper ones are usually better then intel.
 
risqu3 said:
more specifically: no it probably cant play 1080p, because it cant offload the video from the cpu depending on which player you are using.
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Nope, you're wrong. It supports hardware decoding of AVC & VC-1 (blu-rays) and H264.
 
My T400 has the 4500MHD and it's just fine for viewing movies. Dark Knight looked mighty nice in 1080p. For gaming, it kinda sucks. Counterstrike Source is PLAYABLE on lowest settings. Sins of a Solar Empire will not be playable I'll tell you that much.
 
Yea, 1080p is a myth.. what I mean is that on a 22-32 inch lcd screen you won't even see the difference between 720p and 1080p.

Also, 1080 decoding is mostly on software, instead of hardware. My ATI 3450 can play 1080p on the desktop. The 4500 is superior to it, so I would say it can play that too. You just need CCC group codec, or ffshow codec, and play it with media player classic or zoon player.
 
i thought i heard the 4500mhd was a lot better performing than the other intels and could hold its own with low-mid ati/nvidia laptop solutions
 
yetimandaddy said:
Yea, 1080p is a myth.. what I mean is that on a 22-32 inch lcd screen you won't even see the difference between 720p and 1080p.

Also, 1080 decoding is mostly on software, instead of hardware. My ATI 3450 can play 1080p on the desktop. The 4500 is superior to it, so I would say it can play that too. You just need CCC group codec, or ffshow codec, and play it with media player classic or zoon player.
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actually the 4500 gets stomped in games at least by the 3450 (mobile version)

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-3450.9593.0.html
3450
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-4500MHD-GMA-X4500MHD.9883.0.html
4500MHD

at max settings in those games the 3450 is more then double the 4500, and playable at far higher setting then the 4500. and the avivo HD video support will give you hardware gpu video decoding.
 
mnewxcv said:
i thought i heard the 4500mhd was a lot better performing than the other intels and could hold its own with low-mid ati/nvidia laptop solutions
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You heard wrong.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2327139,00.asp

It can handle video decode, and that's about it. And if you check the above review, it scores the lowest score of anything I've seen recently on the video quality test, so anything getting unscaled will look like crap.

For games, it's still crappier than anything ATI or Nvidia have on-offer.
 
I have the 4500mhd on my dell studio and it does perfectly well at doing blu-ray. As long as you go in knowing you aren't going to game, then there is nothing wrong with it.
 
GLSauron said:
Im looking at picking up a latitude e series, but I have 2 questions regarding the mobile 4500MHD.
1: Can it play high bitrate 1080p H264 (aka ripped movies) fine? Highest bitrate I have is 14GB over 2h:12m. Id want that to play smoothly. (also the single largest file I have)
2: Sins of a solar empire, at middle resolution, would it play smoothly (30fps, not 60)? Thatd be the most intensive gaming Id even consider. Would it work well enough?

Thanks
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1. Should run fine
2. Probably not, but maybe if you're lucky. If it does run it will probably be on the lowest settings and fps will struggle sometimes (below 30FPS at times). I have never played the game and don't know what the graphics look like. The minimal system requirements for Sins of Solar Empire are listed as a Radeon 9600, thus the 4500MHD is boarderline. RE4, Shadowground and C&C Renegade run good on my laptop with a 4500MHD video card, but those are all quite old games.
 
You might be able to run sins if you lower res enough, the game is rather well coded graphically, but you won't be able to play at natural resolution on the laptop.

On my old desktop with a 9800 pro and xp2600+ i was able to play it at around 1600x1200 windowed, with everything else turned mostly down, except textures around medium, and pull very playable frame rates, 20+ for a slower moving RTS.
 
Last question, just to confirm. I won't have any problem running 1920x1200 + 1600x1200 with (win7) aero, right?
 
GLSauron said:
Last question, just to confirm. I won't have any problem running 1920x1200 + 1600x1200 with (win7) aero, right?
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I don't know, really given what your looking for I would skip the 4500MHD based laptop. you can get an ATI version for about the same price and you will be happier with the media capabilities. Nvidia makes some good ones as well (though renaming and some chip set problems would make me wary) I would rather get good video and X2 in a laptop any day of the week then a core two duo with a 4500MHD. some people would disagree but I think that is a better balance then the intel offering. and their are plenty of intel laptops with ATI video as well.
 
OK, to go into a little more background, this is just to tide me over until arrandale CPUs are released; so price is the primary concern. For now it'll be left in the docking bay most of the time, connected to KB/mouse/Gbit/speakers/screens. If I need to game I have a decent desktop for that. I've had a GF9400GS laptop, and it couldn't game either. I knew sins was a longshot. Long as it can play 1080p x264 it'll be just fine.

Come june it'll come with me to summer classes (and need decent battery life, as summer classes are longer each day to make up for few days), and then for the fall semester as well; for spring I expect the replacement to take over.

The actual laptop in question is a Dell E6400 via the outlet (cheap!). I'll get the E-Port plus from ebay, stick in 4GB of ram and eventually a good SSD (which will carry over). I'll get most of the laptop cost back when it's sold, and the SSD and docking stations will move forward to the arrandale latitude. So the whole excersize won't cost much at all. A netbook doesn't make any sense as, yes, its cheap; but it also will sell for less AND not be able to take over as my main machine for the interim. I miss having the mobility of the laptop, and I think this will work quite well. If my thinking is off, let me know.
 
1. H.264 video playback - fine. (it has hardware acceleration)
2. Gaming - you'll not be happy.
 
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