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Cave_man

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Hello guys,

This is my first thread at this forum.
I have a little question to the people of this forum.
I have a little issue choosing what processor I am going to buy for myself, the two processors are Intel 3930k or the Intel 3820..
Sorry for my lack skills of english, but hope you guys understand.

Edit: my setup so far is
MB: Asus Rampage IV gene
RAM: Corsair Dominator Dominator Platinum 16GB 1866Mhz (2x8)
SDD: Intel 520 series 180 GB
GPU: EVGA GTX 680 2GB
PSU: Corsair AX 850W


Thank you!
 
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Couple of basic questions you have to answer first.

What do you plan to do with your computer?
What is your budget?
 
Tsumi said:
Couple of basic questions you have to answer first.

What do you plan to do with your computer?
What is your budget?
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I have budget that can take the price of the 3930k. Im planing to play games like Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033, doing some Video editing and photoshop ect and run basic programs at the same time.
 
If you *really* need 6 cores, go with the 3930k

If you *really* need 64GB of ram, go with the 3820

Other then that, stick with LGA1155 and get a 3770k or 3570k (assuming you're going to overclock, get the non-k versions if you're not going to OC).

To be honest, if you really need to ask, I think you should go the cheaper LGA1155 route. If budget isn't a worry and you know your task load can benefit from two more cores and lots of ram, going that route should be obvious and not require questioning.

Games don't benefit from huge loads of ram, and don't typically scale well past 4 cores (and HT again is questionably helpful to game performance, sometimes it even makes things worse). "Light" photoshop and video editing, again... I think you should go with a 3570k or 3770k instead. Will save you a load of money.
 
colinstu said:
If you *really* need 6 cores, go with the 3930k

If you *really* need 64GB of ram, go with the 3820

Other then that, stick with LGA1155 and get a 3770k or 3570k (assuming you're going to overclock, get the non-k versions if you're not going to OC).

To be honest, if you really need to ask, I think you should go the cheaper LGA1155 route. If budget isn't a worry and you know your task load can benefit from two more cores and lots of ram, going that route should be obvious and not require questioning.

Games don't benefit from huge loads of ram, and don't typically scale well past 4 cores (and HT again is questionably helpful to game performance, sometimes it even makes things worse). "Light" photoshop and video editing, again... I think you should go with a 3570k or 3770k instead. Will save you a load of money.
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I have already bought myself LGA2011 motherboard and yes I am going to overclock the cpu. I know it would be overkill with 6 but i will be enable to overklock like i want? With the 3820 i can't overclock it like i want? I would love to go for the LGA1155 but I can't.
Thank you for your time sir!
 
Cave_man said:
I have already bought myself LGA2011 motherboard and yes I am going to overclock the cpu. I know it would be overkill with 6 but i will be enable to overklock like i want? With the 3820 i can't overclock it like i want? I would love to go for the LGA1155 but I can't.
Thank you for your time sir!
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You can OC with both the 3820 and 3930K.

The 3930K is easier to OC, all you have to do is increase the clock multiplier. With the 3820 you have to increase the "CPU strap" from 100MHz to 125MHz and lower the multiplier to enable a stable overclock. The annoying thing about increasing the CPU strap is that it also speeds up the ram, gotta "underclock" the ram back down to something the sticks can support.

Moral of the story: 3930K is easier to OC, and has 2 more cores. The 3820 can OC too but the chip is a lot cheaper.
 
colinstu said:
You can OC with both the 3820 and 3930K.

The 3930K is easier to OC, all you have to do is increase the clock multiplier. With the 3820 you have to increase the "CPU strap" from 100MHz to 125MHz and lower the multiplier to enable a stable overclock. The annoying thing about increasing the CPU strap is that it also speeds up the ram, gotta "underclock" the ram back down to something the sticks can support.

Moral of the story: 3930K is easier to OC, and has 2 more cores. The 3820 can OC too but the chip is a lot cheaper.
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Thank you for your reply.
I have to do a little more thinking before deciding. Kinda sad that there aren't any Ivy-Bridge CPUs for LGA2011 yet or if there are ever coming.
 
Get the 3820 and use the $difference$ on more ram. Ram will do more for video editing than the extra 2 cores.

You can always upgrade the CPU further down the road (LGA 2011 will be around for a while).
 
There is currently 8 core chips for SB-E, but only Xeons, this trend will continue for IB-E as well. Consumer level chips will not have an 8 core option. :(
 
I guess part of the question is what LGA 2011 board did you buy? Someone was suggesting 64GB of RAM without even knowing if your board can support it.

If you will end up doing a lot of rendering with the videos, the extra cores mayhelp reduce the time, which might be nice if you are having to wait for stuff to finish.

I'm sure there will be 8 core IB-E 2011s but the better question is will they be i7 or more Xeons, since there are plenty of 8 core Xeons right now on the socket.
 
Yeah, basically it seems like Intel (being the only game in town... gotta love those monopolies) has put a glass ceiling on enthusiasts. We gotta wait another year to get a "maybe" 10% boost overall and be limited to hexacores. We can get octos but then we gotta pay the outrageous and to my mind wildly unjustified extra costs to get a Xeon rig. IMHO, that sucks bigtime.
 
If you chose the 3820 put the money you save into either better video or SSD. It will make more of a difference and allow you to reasonably upgrade to IB-E when it is released. If you bought 6-core now you wouldn't be able to justify IB-E later. And as has been made clear you can OC the 3820, but please tell us you motherboard model so we can clarify our reccomendations and make sure they are valid.
 
TheGardenTool said:
I guess part of the question is what LGA 2011 board did you buy? Someone was suggesting 64GB of RAM without even knowing if your board can support it.

If you will end up doing a lot of rendering with the videos, the extra cores mayhelp reduce the time, which might be nice if you are having to wait for stuff to finish.

I'm sure there will be 8 core IB-E 2011s but the better question is will they be i7 or more Xeons, since there are plenty of 8 core Xeons right now on the socket.
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I bought the Asus Rampage IV Gene, so the maximum support of ram is 32GB of RAM.
The Xeons are very expensive here in Norway so i wouldn't even consider buying one of those.
 
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Relativist said:
If you chose the 3820 put the money you save into either better video or SSD. It will make more of a difference and allow you to reasonably upgrade to IB-E when it is released. If you bought 6-core now you wouldn't be able to justify IB-E later. And as has been made clear you can OC the 3820, but please tell us you motherboard model so we can clarify our reccomendations and make sure they are valid.
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The Motherboard is a ASUS Rampage IV Gene, hope this will help you guys out a little. :)
 
Relativist said:
If you chose the 3820 put the money you save into either better video or SSD. It will make more of a difference and allow you to reasonably upgrade to IB-E when it is released. If you bought 6-core now you wouldn't be able to justify IB-E later. And as has been made clear you can OC the 3820, but please tell us you motherboard model so we can clarify our reccomendations and make sure they are valid.
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So if I go with the 3820 and get a lot of ram, I wouldn't need the 2 extra cores and rather wait for the IB-E?
 
6 cores vs 4 cores will never hurt anything, but I would go with the ram upgrade first. Video can get huge fast, esp when you start adding in a lot of compositing.

Think about it this way. 2 extra cores won't make anything faster if processes are constantly swapping to disk, but having max ram can help ensure swapping to disk is minimal.

Gaming will be fine either way.

If € is no concern, get everything.

:cool:
 
pbassjunk said:
6 cores vs 4 cores will never hurt anything, but I would go with the ram upgrade first. Video can get huge fast, esp when you start adding in a lot of compositing.

Think about it this way. 2 extra cores won't make anything faster if processes are constantly swapping to disk, but having max ram can help ensure swapping to disk is minimal.

Gaming will be fine either way.

If € is no concern, get everything.

:cool:
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Then I'll stick to my 16GB and go for the 3930K.
Thank you for you time, good sir!
 
if you don't need the extra 2 cores, the 3820 will oc further on less cooling.

Mine hit 4625mhz without much trouble or voltage, I know it can go further, but I don't want the extra heat for an additional 1-200mhz.

up to you in the end, if you need more cores, go 3930, if you don't grab a 3820.(btw, strap ocing isn't hard at all, and you don't really need to lower your memory speed if your chips can handle 1660mhz)
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
if you don't need the extra 2 cores, the 3820 will oc further on less cooling.

Mine hit 4625mhz without much trouble or voltage, I know it can go further, but I don't want the extra heat for an additional 1-200mhz.

up to you in the end, if you need more cores, go 3930, if you don't grab a 3820.(btw, strap ocing isn't hard at all, and you don't really need to lower your memory speed if your chips can handle 1660mhz)
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my 3820 i was only ever able to get 4.6ghz out of it. my 3930k i can get 4.9ghz without even trying. im sure i can go as high as 5.2 ghz on this chip.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
if you don't need the extra 2 cores, the 3820 will oc further on less cooling.

Mine hit 4625mhz without much trouble or voltage, I know it can go further, but I don't want the extra heat for an additional 1-200mhz.

up to you in the end, if you need more cores, go 3930, if you don't grab a 3820.(btw, strap ocing isn't hard at all, and you don't really need to lower your memory speed if your chips can handle 1660mhz)
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That is my problem. I dont't know if I want or need 2 extra cores just for the sake of it. There is a $383 price diffrence between these two cpu here and I don't get so much benifits of two extra cores right?
 
So no 8/12cores for me in the near future? Looks like my 3960X will stay with me for a couple more years.

What kind of RAM are you trying to buy?
 
I love my 3930K and 64GB of RAM, although I rarely use it to its full potential. Go 3930K if you can afford it.
 
P4rD0nM3 said:
So no 8/12cores for me in the near future? Looks like my 3960X will stay with me for a couple more years.

What kind of RAM are you trying to buy?
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I got the Corsair Dominator platinum 1866Mhz 16Gb (2x8).
But the there is a lot of money just for 16GB
 
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