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Install problem - possible PSU problem...

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Lrdtalon

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Ok so the problem i am havinf is when i try and do an initial clean install of either vista ultimate or xp pro. I get BSODs with either install the vista install won't even get into the installer, the xp fails at various stages during the install, but never finishes. I pretty much always get the error 0x0000000A, which i have read/found to indicate a hardware issue, generally associated with bad memory, but not always. I have run memtest on each stick for 9+hours each stick, no errors. I have tried installing with just one stick, as well as both sticks.

I have slipstreamed the XP install with SP3 and the RAID and AHCI drivers for the Motherboard.

The specs of the system are as follows:

Motherboard: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
CPU: Intel Q6600, not OC'd
RAM: 2x2 GB
Video Card: Nvidia 9800 GTX+
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147130

I am really beginning to question the power supply. Everything powers up fine and seems to work, but i am not sure. does anyone have any experience with this PSU, how can i tell if it is the PSU without having to buy a new one? If i do buy a new one, how is this one: RAIDMAX RX-700SS

I would really appreciate some help and or advice.

Thanks for your help :)
 
I sometimes find that a certain CD/DVD drive would do that. I have one drive that always gives me problem when installing OS from, so I use a different one and it works. I'm not saying this is also you problem, but it may be. Try a different CD/DVD drive and see if it works.
 
Buy and use a digital multi-meter to monitor the voltages coming from the PSU. Follow the instructions for "Using a multi-meter to check voltages":
http://www.bfgpower.com/troubleshooting.html#DMM

Even if the PSU wasn't a problem, I'd still recommend replacing it ASAP. Rosewill's PSU quality is pretty low, especially the ones bundled with the case.The Raidmax PSU would be a poor choice. I recommend getting the BFG LS-550 550W PSU instead.
 
How do the +12V rails combine to meet the current requirements for a video card? THe 9800GTX+ requires +12V @ 24A, for the sake of what i have the Rosewill PSU claims to have 2 +12V rails at 15A and 16A respectiviely. Do those amperages add up to form the current spec for the entire +12V rail (i.e. my +12V rail would be 31A)?

If you look at the specs for the rosewill PSU, should that have enough power to power the components that i have? How do you determine that?
 
Lrdtalon said:
How do the +12V rails combine to meet the current requirements for a video card? THe 9800GTX+ requires +12V @ 24A, for the sake of what i have the Rosewill PSU claims to have 2 +12V rails at 15A and 16A respectiviely. Do those amperages add up to form the current spec for the entire +12V rail (i.e. my +12V rail would be 31A)?

If you look at the specs for the rosewill PSU, should that have enough power to power the components that i have? How do you determine that?
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That 24A rating is for the entire system + 9800GT, not just the GPU itself.

You determine the amperage on the +12V rails by first finding out what's the total combined, max load, combined or max wattage set aside for the +12V rails/section alone. Then divide that total by 12 and you get how much amps the PSU has on the +12V rail.

That's the correct way to find out how much amps a power supply has. Don't add up the amps on the +12V rail to figure out the amperage. Doesn't work that way. If the total combined or max wattage can't be found on the power supply, check the manufacturer's page for that PSU for that info. If the manufacturer doesn't provide that information, it's generally a good sign for you to drop that power supply from consideration.

Which Rosewill PSU do you have exactly?
 
Sorry. According the the case page it is RD500-2SB. Although it doesn't have the lights. i am not at home right now, so can only go by what newegg is saying. Thanks so much for your help, things have gotten much more complicated since the last build i did.
 
Lrdtalon said:
Sorry. According the the case page it is RD500-2SB. Although it doesn't have the lights. i am not at home right now, so can only go by what newegg is saying. Thanks so much for your help, things have gotten much more complicated since the last build i did.
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Hmmm, damn newegg. The PSU model number that newegg provided does not match the partial model PSU model number that can be see in the newegg pics of the case. I think it says DR-8500BTX in the case pics while the RD500-2SB PSU pics show SL-8500BTX. Unlike the case pic, the RD500-2SB does not provide the total amount of wattage available on the +12V rail. I think can see the total amount of wattage available on the PSU in the case pics. But they're too tiny for me to see.

You're welcome :)
 
When i get home i will get the real number and post them. I am just frustrated with myself for not siguring this stuff out a head of time.

Hopefully i will get all of this figured out for my next build :)
 
You are in fact correct with the DR-8500BTX. So knowing that do i have enough juice for my box, or do i need to replace it?

I checked each voltage with a DMM and they were within spec +12.19, +5.20, and 3.37. Not sure what the voltages shoudl be set at in the bios for the ram and the cpu though...
 
Lrdtalon said:
You are in fact correct with the DR-8500BTX. So knowing that do i have enough juice for my box, or do i need to replace it?
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Replace it. According to this link, it's a DEER! Get rid of it ASAP!

Deer makes some pretty spectacularly shitty PSUs. I recommend the BFG LS-550 PSU as a replacement.
 
I Realize i should bag it, but i am curious if it it were to live up to the specs would it be able to run my rig?
 
Lrdtalon said:
I Realize i should bag it, but i am curious if it it were to live up to the specs would it be able to run my rig?
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Problem, I still don't know the specs, something you were suppose to tell us (total wattage on each +12V rail), hint hint :D
 
If those specs were right, doable, and capable of being provided without harming the PC, yes that PSU would have been enough.

However it is a Deer so those specs are not right, not capable of being provided without harming the PC and generally worthless. I have never seen a Deer actually be capable of providing its rated specs at 40C and above, the average temperature inside a PSU inside a case.
 
is there anything that is a little cheaper that would work? i am thinking i am going to have to eat the cost for this and don't want to be on the hook for to much...
 
Very low quality. Not worth buying. The only decent Thermaltake PSUs are part of their Toughpower and Purepower RX line of PSUs. The BFG LS-550 from buy.com is still the better PSU.
 
well good, cause i just bought it from buy, and if it doesn't fix my problem then it is going into my i7 build...
 
If anyone was watching this thread i solved the issue. it appeared that either the L2 or L3 cache on the processor had gone bad. I swapped out the processors and it worked like a champ! Thanks for the help everyone :)
 
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