I may need to help spec some dust/waterproof type keyboards for an industrial application. The client was mentioning the crappy plastic covers over a normal keyboard, but I think those suck and get taken off by the users. Anyone know of a good brand that makes this type of keyboard?
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Industrial Keyboards?
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IKEY is very good; I hate to state the obvious but good old Google turned up a bunch of good ones to look at.
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Because you're down everytime the keyboard fail, and because hazardous liquids might be flamable, combustible, and so on. Plain keyboards aren't appropriate for use in hazardous environments; you have to start with a NEMA 4X or 12-sealed unit and make it intrinsically safe.munkle said:
This keyboard is certified for Class I, Class II, and Class III environments.
Still doesnt really justify the cost to me, a keyboard can be swaped in 30 sec, unless you got some crazy enclosure that you dont have access to the ports. And if you work in a place where you spill hazardous liquids on the keyboard frequently, I dont think thats a very good place to work. I have spilt mountain dew all over my keyboard, washed it in a bathtub and it still works fine.mikeblas said:
Anyway what ever floats your boat, I think this would work just as well. Its water and dust proof.
It carries no certifications at all, and is inappropriate for installation in an industrial setting. You'd only need to maim or kill one worker before the justification of the cost becomes very obvious to you, even if the ability for others to be so particular about their work environment still isn't.munkle said:
Well, what ever hes been doing they have been using a normal keyboard. I suggested an alternative that is water and dust proof, and cheap, he would have been using a cheap keyboard and cheap cover anyway, why not suggest a cheap alternative instead of a $400+ keyboard, he can go with what ever he wants. He isnt killing employees or maiming them with his current keyboard, so again I dont see the justification for the cost which Im guessing is an issue or he wouldnt have suggested a normal keyboard and a plastic cover.mikeblas said:
He has? I can't find any part of the thread that indicates there was a previous installation.munkle said:
Meanwhile, a standard keyboard with a dust cover over it isn't an industrial keyboard, and neither are the novelty keyboards that CompUSA sells.
Even if the installation isn't going into a hazardous environment, the cost is justified because Rustynuts wants something that isn't "crappy" and doesn't "suck".
Hey guess what rusty nuts isnt paying for it, hes doing this for a client, the CLIENT suggested a normal keyboard and a cover (hmm... maybe because of cost? or the client doesnt care if it is "crappy" or "sucks" he just want something that works?). So he, Rustynuts, asks for suggestions because he thinks that the covers sucks and the workers just remove them. So you suggest a $400+ keyboard and I suggest a $23 keyboard, no where any where was there set criteria of what the keyboard must be certified for, all that was asked was that it be dust and water proof because of an industrial enviroment, guess what the $23 dollar one is. Just because you dont like the suggestion doesnt mean you have to be nasty, and good job only quoteing one part of my reply cause its the only thing you could refute. By the way, where does it say anywhere that he HASNT been using a normal keyboard, we both can make assumptions if we want about whats going on.mikeblas said:
I didn't need to quote any other part of your post because the whole thing was written with the assumption that there's already a consumer keyboard installed.
Indeed, the client is paying for it. They're the ones who get to decide if the cost is justified or not, and hopefully they'll make an educated and informed decision.
I'm sorry that you can't imagine difficult places to work or applications other than the one you're assuming. But, as it turns out, it's a big world full of chemicals that are much harsher than even Mountain Dew.
Indeed, the client is paying for it. They're the ones who get to decide if the cost is justified or not, and hopefully they'll make an educated and informed decision.
I'm sorry that you can't imagine difficult places to work or applications other than the one you're assuming. But, as it turns out, it's a big world full of chemicals that are much harsher than even Mountain Dew.
So we both have our assumptions, you assume that this is a place where a huge store of chemicals will be, thus they might be spilled on the keyboard and that could possibly lead to a worker injury. (any place has a store of chemicals, so dont try to justify it on a small amount of chemicals alone) Also rustynuts never mentioned chemicals at all, which, he probablly would if they were a concern, as most plastics dont react well with chemicals, but he did mention dust and water which is a concern.mikeblas said:
Im sorry that you can't imagine a world where some times people dont need to spend $400 on a keyboard when a $23 one is just fine, where maybe the client works at a place that is outside, like a construction site and doesn't deal with chemicals and is just dusty and could get rained on. I guess when you grow up with daddy's credit card and you can afford anything, cost can be justified for any reason. But, as it turns out, it's a big world full of places that dont use chemicals in everything, or places that have less than a very slight chance of a spill on a keyboard.
I guess we'll just have to see what rustynuts says then, because WE know almost NOTHING about the situation, just it needs to be dust and water proof for an industrial enviroment. Apparently you can't get off your high horse and accept the fact that a cheap keyboard will do, if the situation justified the $400 keyboard then go for it, as I assumed the situation to be, it is not justified. As you assume you believe it is the only way to go. So for now there is no point to even argue with you anymore because WE BOTH are going off our own ASSUMPTIONS.
So rustynuts, please more info is needed.
EDIT: WTF this is a year old thread that someone bumped, I never looked at the date until now.
So rustynuts, please more info is needed.
EDIT: WTF this is a year old thread that someone bumped, I never looked at the date until now.
If you READ my whole post I said we are both going off assumptions, it is my assumption that cheap keyboard will infact do. Why do you have to argue everything, do you have you try to increase your ego or something, and you dont even argue well, you pick and choose what you want to argue out of a reply? I can cut anything out of a post I want to and make it seem like the meaning of the post was somthing different than what it really was. I think your just arguing now just for arguings sake. BTW this is a year old thread so we will most likely never know about the work conditions, so there is no point to argue anymore.mikeblas said:
First, you said it was a fact that a cheap keyboard would do. Now, you're saying it's just your assumption. Since you know it isn't a fact, then, why do you regard it as lofty of me to assert that cheap keyboards have no place in truly industrial environments?munkle said:
So you proved my point that you just like to argue for arguings sake. Thanks for picking and choosing what you want to argue. All my replys are there for you to read, please go back and reread them, I'm done arguing with someone who cannot read an entire post to see what I meant say and will distort parts of my post. Maybe you stopped at a comma thinking it was a period and didn't finish the rest of a sentence where I said my fact was based on assumption. Please visit HERE if that was the case.mikeblas said: