It's on par with any phone on the same level but in fact beats many phones at the same level.
There are plenty of lower level phones that can be had for much cheaper if not free.
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It's on par with any phone on the same level but in fact beats many phones at the same level.
There are plenty of lower level phones that can be had for much cheaper if not free.
I personally think the phone is worth it, but completely aside from that, you have to remember that this is a one way street. Once you get a smart phone there's no going back. You will miss it if you have to reactivate your old phone.
I would equate it to the first time I got internet access. I loved my first smart phone and blindly thought it couldn't get any better. Then, it did.
If your only concern is the $200, remember that $30/mo for 2 years is $720. Just the data far outweighs the cost of the phone. The total cost of your plan for 2 years will make the one-time cost of the phone seem like nothing.
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anybody else getting an exponential increase in battery life ?
I am into my 14th hour with about 30 percent to go as compared to just 6 hours a few days ago . She gets better every day.
I am into my 14th hour with about 30 percent to go as compared to just 6 hours a few days ago . She gets better every day.
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It's not new-user syndrome? I know mine is lasting longer now that I'm in class 8 hours a day.
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yes it reminds me of the days we needed to break in new batteries
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I've noticed that the phone battery life is HIGHLY dependant on signal strength.
Lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries don't have a memory and don't improve with conditioning or cycling, so it isn't the battery itself (I'm a bit of a battery geek from some of my other toys...).
One thing that is happening is the phone's software is becoming more accurately calibrated in terms of the percentage readout. The battery remaining indicator is nothing more than a simple math equation - after you do a few full cycles, it can more accurately judge the time remaining.
I've got a genuine OEM HTC 1500ma touch pro 2 battery I got for $15 being delivered tomorrow that should improve things some in the battery department.
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I think you hit the nail right on the head here and could not agree more.
$199.00 plus an additional $50.00 off making it $149.99 for me when starting an new two year contract. Immediate rebate with a online purchase or get the rebate at the version store and wait weeks to get it, but the cost is not $199.00 but $149.99
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It's my 4th day with the Droid Incredible and I'm mostly trying to figure out how to maximize battery life as I've had very horrendous battery life the past few days.
I don't even use the phone that much, but yesterday, my batter lasted from 8:30 AM to 4 PM, and it sat there most of the time. Tuesday, I had to charge after 3 hours of being unplugged.
Signal strength seems to be a factor, but I think the really big factor is that the 3G radio is always on, so I disabled that option to see if it affects life.
Right now it's been unplugged for 8:30, and my battery indicator is much better than before (like only 20% down).
However, apps that are 'always connected' will disconnect once the phone locks/sleeps.
I don't even use the phone that much, but yesterday, my batter lasted from 8:30 AM to 4 PM, and it sat there most of the time. Tuesday, I had to charge after 3 hours of being unplugged.
Signal strength seems to be a factor, but I think the really big factor is that the 3G radio is always on, so I disabled that option to see if it affects life.
Right now it's been unplugged for 8:30, and my battery indicator is much better than before (like only 20% down).
However, apps that are 'always connected' will disconnect once the phone locks/sleeps.
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hows you signal strength in your area? Thats a major concern because as a subscriber, i would never think of turning off my radio for whatever reason. Its still a phone regardless, and it must take calls. Weak signals/roaming signals does consume more juice from the battery. Also how many apps you have running which require data?
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The signal strength bounces between low to good (I work in the middle of a building, off the beaten path. The Always on Mobile Data option I disabled doesn't disable the phone abilities, it's mostly used for data services. I think right now, the phone is just always connected to the data network, and that is a bigger battery drain, especially since I run meebo on the thing. I also noticed that the email app defaults to either 5 minute polling intervals, or 15 (I forget), so I changed that since it's not very critical I get emails on time.
The biggest thing that's happened after this change is that my meebo now disconnects after the phone goes to sleep for a while. Everything else though, like mail sync, still functions normally.
However, it's been 10:30 since I unplugged, and now I'm at 50% battery. I also enabled wifi in the last 3 hours (definitely takes more battery), so I think my battery problems are solved...with some minor inconveniences I'll live with.
Now I wait for the 2150 mAh battery.
Having used the devices of Blackberry (storm), Apple (Ipod touch/iPhone), and now this Droid Incredible - I can say that I love BB's email push abilities, the iPod's music player, and the speed/interface of the Droid. I'd like a combination of all of them in a phone.
And I'm out. Less than 1 week phone this lasts one! Incredible my a$$. Ready for my list?
-The green/red hue issue. On dimmest, most of these devices have an extremely red tint and make browsing w/ the lights off a very unpleasant experience.
-3.7" still a little too small IMO
-Keyboard lags far too often for my liking. It's still no iPhone.
-Unusable outdoors, the screen's CRAZY reflective.
-Battery life is hilarious.
-Actual ability to hold signal whether it be wifi, 3G, or phone kinda sucks.
-Speaker not quite loud enough.
-Moving the headphone jack will cause skips (to new podcasts) or voice recognition starting up.
-Camera touches surface.
-Fragile plastic worries me.
-Android still feels a little ghetto to me. Things feel disjointed, there are NO GAMES. And calendar functions lack (no way to schedule 1st and 3rd of a day per mo).
Still, a FANTASTIC phone and Verizon's best. But I really found myself toying w/ the device a lot. So if this thing's going to be a glorified toy, I may as well wait for the grandaddy of them all, Verizon's iPhone. It's probably the only thing that'll satisfy me anyway. Peace!
-The green/red hue issue. On dimmest, most of these devices have an extremely red tint and make browsing w/ the lights off a very unpleasant experience.
-3.7" still a little too small IMO
-Keyboard lags far too often for my liking. It's still no iPhone.
-Unusable outdoors, the screen's CRAZY reflective.
-Battery life is hilarious.
-Actual ability to hold signal whether it be wifi, 3G, or phone kinda sucks.
-Speaker not quite loud enough.
-Moving the headphone jack will cause skips (to new podcasts) or voice recognition starting up.
-Camera touches surface.
-Fragile plastic worries me.
-Android still feels a little ghetto to me. Things feel disjointed, there are NO GAMES. And calendar functions lack (no way to schedule 1st and 3rd of a day per mo).
Still, a FANTASTIC phone and Verizon's best. But I really found myself toying w/ the device a lot. So if this thing's going to be a glorified toy, I may as well wait for the grandaddy of them all, Verizon's iPhone. It's probably the only thing that'll satisfy me anyway.
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You'll probably be waiting awhile then.
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And I'm out. Less than 1 week phone this lasts one! Incredible my a$$. Ready for my list?
-The green/red hue issue. On dimmest, most of these devices have an extremely red tint and make browsing w/ the lights off a very unpleasant experience.
-3.7" still a little too small IMO
-Keyboard lags far too often for my liking. It's still no iPhone.
-Unusable outdoors, the screen's CRAZY reflective.
-Battery life is hilarious.
-Actual ability to hold signal whether it be wifi, 3G, or phone kinda sucks.
-Speaker not quite loud enough.
-Moving the headphone jack will cause skips (to new podcasts) or voice recognition starting up.
-Camera touches surface.
-Fragile plastic worries me.
-Android still feels a little ghetto to me. Things feel disjointed, there are NO GAMES. And calendar functions lack (no way to schedule 1st and 3rd of a day per mo).
Still, a FANTASTIC phone and Verizon's best. But I really found myself toying w/ the device a lot. So if this thing's going to be a glorified toy, I may as well wait for the grandaddy of them all, Verizon's iPhone. It's probably the only thing that'll satisfy me anyway.
Maybe you need to jump on an iphone so you'll see the light then. I dont think its all that cracked up to be, but obviously you need a week with one to see the light.There are no jesus phone, thats why i stick with my BB tour because it gives me everything i need out of a phone. I am jumpin ship for the htc evo phone come august because i want something new.
In an effort to help anyone who's considering buying this phone and sees this list, I'll reply to these issues.
If the screen does anything more than display gray with a pinkish hue, then it is defective and you need to exchange the phone. Currently, all of the OLED screens on phones have this issue.
I recommend the HTC EVO on Sprint which should be out the end of this month or the beginning of next for those that want a larger screen than 3.7".
I only used the HTC keyboard for a couple of hours, and then went immediately to Swype. Typing on any phone with a Swype keyboard, even a Windows Mobile phone, is light years ahead of typing on the iPhone. If your goal is fast texting or typing, a platform that supports Swype should be your #1 choice.
I didn't have anymore issue with this phone than I have with any other, including a Droid or an iPhone/iPod Touch.
This has already been discussed in this thread, so I won't answer it.
This is largely a myth, but there are some defective phones that have issues going around. I have held this next to a Moto Droid at multiple locations. They are within 5dbm of each other. The Droid will display 3 bars, and the Incredible displays 1 or 0. Neither has any issue being used.
Assuming you mean the speakerphone, it could do with being a bit louder. The earpiece speaker is quite loud compared to previous phones I've owned.
I'm not quite sure what is meant here by "moving the headphone jack" but I have not experienced this issue with either my AKG K271 or my Shure E2Cs.
No, it doesn't. The silver ring around the camera lens protector touches. It protrudes further.
This phone is in fact more fragile than the Motorola Droid, but is comparable to the HTC HD2. If you want a durable smart phone, the best choice would currently be a Moto Droid. There is a thread on androidforums where someone had it fly off their truck at speed, and then recovered it in the median with only scratches to the casing.
Games are largely personal preference. I would rather have the SNES and Genesis emulators than all the home brewed games in the world, and am perfectly satisfied with just those and card games.
As for comparing a stock function from one OS to another, the iPhone photo gallery can't crop photos. Is there an app for that? Absolutely, but there's also plenty of Android calendar apps on the market.
If the screen does anything more than display gray with a pinkish hue, then it is defective and you need to exchange the phone. Currently, all of the OLED screens on phones have this issue.
I recommend the HTC EVO on Sprint which should be out the end of this month or the beginning of next for those that want a larger screen than 3.7".
I only used the HTC keyboard for a couple of hours, and then went immediately to Swype. Typing on any phone with a Swype keyboard, even a Windows Mobile phone, is light years ahead of typing on the iPhone. If your goal is fast texting or typing, a platform that supports Swype should be your #1 choice.
I didn't have anymore issue with this phone than I have with any other, including a Droid or an iPhone/iPod Touch.
This has already been discussed in this thread, so I won't answer it.
This is largely a myth, but there are some defective phones that have issues going around. I have held this next to a Moto Droid at multiple locations. They are within 5dbm of each other. The Droid will display 3 bars, and the Incredible displays 1 or 0. Neither has any issue being used.
Assuming you mean the speakerphone, it could do with being a bit louder. The earpiece speaker is quite loud compared to previous phones I've owned.
I'm not quite sure what is meant here by "moving the headphone jack" but I have not experienced this issue with either my AKG K271 or my Shure E2Cs.
No, it doesn't. The silver ring around the camera lens protector touches. It protrudes further.
This phone is in fact more fragile than the Motorola Droid, but is comparable to the HTC HD2. If you want a durable smart phone, the best choice would currently be a Moto Droid. There is a thread on androidforums where someone had it fly off their truck at speed, and then recovered it in the median with only scratches to the casing.
Games are largely personal preference. I would rather have the SNES and Genesis emulators than all the home brewed games in the world, and am perfectly satisfied with just those and card games.
As for comparing a stock function from one OS to another, the iPhone photo gallery can't crop photos. Is there an app for that? Absolutely, but there's also plenty of Android calendar apps on the market.
The first few charges on any lithium ion batter will be poor. Once you start draining the battery and giving it full charges over a few days, the length of charge will increase dramatically.
By the way, I upgraded my Citrix Web Interface/Secure Gateway servers to CSG 5.3 today (released with XenApp 6), and it finally fixed my Citrix Reciever connectivity issues. I can run any of my published Citrix applications from Android (and iPhone) OS's now.
I've tested IE6, 7 and 8 all with full flash funtionality Plus a number of other nifty applications. I almost have no reason to even own a laptop for work anymore. I can manage all of my systems remotely from my damn Incredible.. its.. its ...
*drumroll* Incredible.
note : I manage my companies Citrix farm(s) so I had the capability to make back end changes. If your company uses Citrix, talk to the engineer in charge and see what version of CSG they're running. Citrix Reciever just opened the world to my phone.
I've tested IE6, 7 and 8 all with full flash funtionality
Plus a number of other nifty applications. I almost have no reason to even own a laptop for work anymore. I can manage all of my systems remotely from my damn Incredible.. its.. its ...*drumroll* Incredible.
note : I manage my companies Citrix farm(s) so I had the capability to make back end changes. If your company uses Citrix, talk to the engineer in charge and see what version of CSG they're running. Citrix Reciever just opened the world to my phone.
I would be referring to the next iPhone of course. But I think I'd be quite happy w/ an iPhone as I loved the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. And yes, the Evo does sound interesting provided Sprint keeps current pricing for it. That does excite me...a little...even though it's still Android.
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I went to VZW yesterday and compared my Incredible w/ the reps and low and behold, his was green (white) and mine was red. It was obvious and distracting. Unfortunately, they wouldn't exchange it for this as they couldn't "see color".
Not just because it's 4.3" though, it's also going to be a regular TFT which means non of the funny looking text like on the Incredible. Have you seen hardforum on the lowest brightness? What about mid? It's like a 3D board, lol. The colors are wacked.
Well, quite a few other reviews including Engadget, AndroidCentral, and CNET did have an issue w/ the reflectiveness. It's not just in sunlight though. Any light causes distraction to the screen and I found it significantly harder to see than say, the DROID.
Sadly, that still doesn't make the battery issue go away. It's 1300 out of the box and far too small. I found myself charging much more than the DROID.
I wish it were, but I could watch as my WiFi signal would get low and then it wouldn't move data until I turned off WiFi. Not a myth to me, not a myth to the person in line next to me also returning their Incredible because it was dropping calls.
Mostly, this is an issue in the car. When I connect the device to my stereo using the headphone jack and then mount it in the OEM car mount, the cable moves ever so slightly. From there, the device skips to the next podcast or goes into Voice Recognition mode. It happened all the time in my 1st Incredible, rarely in the 2nd...but I could force it simply by moving it around and pressing on it up and down.
Yes, it does. Both of my Incredibles were flush w/ the silver ring around the camera lens protector. IT DID NOT protrude further.
Suck on Android. Even the Zune HD has Audiosurf. I downloaded 15 games from people's recommedations and they all blew compared w/ some of the stuff out there in Apple's App Store. I played Geo Defense for 20 some hours on an iPod Touch. There's nothing that held my interest for more than a minute on Android. Even that Robo Defense game is terrible...
Overall, it's the best device for a user on Verizon right now, but for me the device needs to be just a little bit more. I feel like we're at the start of some really good netbooks, but it's not quite there yet. Bigger screen, better screen, better build, more mature OS, etc. I can and don't mind waiting. I'm merely expressing the reasons I don't believe it to be the phone for me. If everyone was satisfied by the current crop of whatever, you'd never have anything new. Someone's gotta be the critic...and take apparently take flac for it everytime.
And yes, Charlie Hustle, I don't think you can really know a phone unless you own it for a week. Up until I took it back, I had been discovering it's nuances.
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Jodiuh, most of your comments seem either from a defective device or highly subjective.
I only say that because you seem to be dogging Android at every turn you get but with little more than saying "it sucks" or "its ghetto" to shed some light on why. Which I found to be odd since in other breaths you seem to be comparing this to other Android devices that you enjoyed??
Anywho, thanks for your opinion
I only say that because you seem to be dogging Android at every turn you get but with little more than saying "it sucks" or "its ghetto" to shed some light on why. Which I found to be odd since in other breaths you seem to be comparing this to other Android devices that you enjoyed??
Anywho, thanks for your opinion
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Of course they're subjective, they're my opinion.
Android feels immature to me compared to the shine on WebOS or even the iPhone's OS. Android may over more customization, but things don't always work the same way twice. It makes the OS feel disjointed. Here's some examples:
-variable keyboard input lag (DROID, Nexus One, Eris, Incredible)
-crashing web browser randomly at times
-occasional slowdown in OS
-different load times for gmail and web sites
-weaker apps (Listen for podcasts is the best, but still lacking when it comes to options)
-odd compatibility problems w/ memory (movie players that aren't even on the device standard won't read files off the 8GB included memory, making it useless for that)
And I'm comparing features of Android based phones, not the OS across the board. For instance, the screen on the DROID's sharper and easier to see under light conditions. It also displays colors correctly. But it can't match the actual touch sensor's accuracy of the Incredible.
I don't understand why negative criticism is so frowned upon. The device is not perfect...although pretty close. And I'm pretty sure I've contributed more in the way of pictures, impressions, hell, even a 10 minute video than you copycat. So please don't be so eager to dismiss my thoughts, ok?
Android feels immature to me compared to the shine on WebOS or even the iPhone's OS. Android may over more customization, but things don't always work the same way twice. It makes the OS feel disjointed. Here's some examples:
-variable keyboard input lag (DROID, Nexus One, Eris, Incredible)
-crashing web browser randomly at times
-occasional slowdown in OS
-different load times for gmail and web sites
-weaker apps (Listen for podcasts is the best, but still lacking when it comes to options)
-odd compatibility problems w/ memory (movie players that aren't even on the device standard won't read files off the 8GB included memory, making it useless for that)
And I'm comparing features of Android based phones, not the OS across the board. For instance, the screen on the DROID's sharper and easier to see under light conditions. It also displays colors correctly. But it can't match the actual touch sensor's accuracy of the Incredible.
I don't understand why negative criticism is so frowned upon. The device is not perfect...although pretty close. And I'm pretty sure I've contributed more in the way of pictures, impressions, hell, even a 10 minute video than you copycat. So please don't be so eager to dismiss my thoughts, ok?
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I honestly don't understand your complaints about a laggy typing experience on the Incredible. Typing is blazing fast for me and I've never had to wait for the phone to register input at all. The only limiting factor in how fast I can type on this phone is myself, not the hardware. This goes for almost any sort of task on the phone. The only time I have slowdown is when I run a Live wallpaper (and some are better than others in this respect) or an app is being installed in the background. Everything else is near instantaneous. I've never had the browser crash once, and the only time an app has forcefully closed is a Nexus One app/widget that I installed, which isn't even guaranteed to work anyways.
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I cannot help but wonder, ...... I have sold several hundred MOTO Droid and have had 2 yes 2 legitimate defectives yet there were a few people in this forum that went through several and now the same people are having issues with the Incredible.
Apple payroll or just anal ? Or am I just drunk from the Android coolaide?
Apple payroll or just anal ? Or am I just drunk from the Android coolaide?
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Sorry, the stock keyboard definetely lags and it's because the keyboard doesn't support multi touch. You just can't type fast enough if you don't notice it.
The main problem is that the screen is so sensitive that the spacebar doesn't register if your finger is even brushing another part of the screen. I'll be flying along and then notice my sentence looks something like :
This phone is reallyfreakingsweet except forthefact that it doesn't freakingsupportmultitouch at thekeyboard.
I hate the iphone, but the keyboard on it supports multitouch and is intelligent enough to know which key you meant to press, so you can type significantly faster on it.
Overall though, this phone is ridiculously good. Before rebooting for the OTA update, I had 4 days straight of uptime without the slightest lag, reset, freeze, etc. On windows mobile, I was averaging 3 battery pulls a day. The beautiful thing is that the phone is only going to get better and better once it's rooted and the Android app store grows more mature.
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You can download the Incredible version of Swype from XDA Developers. IT works great.
I had the plasma moving smokey thing on pretty much the whole time because it's soooo pretty. Oh well.
Don't mince words jacuzz, I know you're referring to me. And that's ok. I take pride in knowing flaws won't get by me when they'll cruise by most people. I'm not the only person to experience issues w/ these devices. I'm just NOT one that gushes over a phone and defends it flaws, iPhone included. My biggest beef w/ the iPhone, if you can call it that's, that it really can't be used as a phone out here in AZ. Verizon or bust...
Thank you. HTC is the same. It DOESN'T type as fast as the iPhone and it's annoying.
If you don't notice the issues w/ the phone, great. But don't try to shove me off like I'm the only one in the world that thinks the phone might not be the greatest thing since an LCD. I'm not. And it isn't.
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Do you have haptic feedback on when you type?
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Ah, ok that makes more sense now. With haptic off, I literally can type random gibberish on the keyboard as fast as I can move my fingers with no slowdown. With it on, it slows down considerably doing the same test.
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So Jod.... Did you return it? And what are you using now??
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If you are interested, and think it's worth it, there is a Seidio Innocell 1750 mAh Battery for HTC Droid Eris/Droid Incredible for 55$
Can anyone find it for cheaper or a higher mAh that does not take an extended cover on the back?
Can anyone find it for cheaper or a higher mAh that does not take an extended cover on the back?
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Well i bought mine over the weekend
my dad bought the droid so i got the incredible for free (we split the cost)
they said that i should get it by fri even though verizons website says its back ordered till the 29th
anyone know if verizon can tell when mine will ship?
cant wait to get it
its gonna be my first smartphone
my dad bought the droid so i got the incredible for free (we split the cost)
they said that i should get it by fri even though verizons website says its back ordered till the 29th
anyone know if verizon can tell when mine will ship?
cant wait to get it
its gonna be my first smartphone
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I was at the verizon store yday playin around with the incredible and when I tried to go to youtube to play some videos, it wouldn't work. Said it needed a new flash player.. so when I tried to dl the new flash player on the phone a message popped up saying "This program is not compatible with this phone" or something of the sort. Can someone confrim that youtube actually does work on this phone?
You have to use the youtube app.