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improve true 5.1 headset surround

Terrox

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I've just got myself a pair of cm storm sirus 5.1 headset with the hope that i would be able to use my soundcard creative x-fi xtremegamer with it and get a good result in surround sound so i could locate sounds easy in gaming, but that was not the case.
Instead sounds from the front sounds pretty much exactly like sounds from the back, due to the speakers being the same and just 5 cm from eachother.
And stuff like creatives x-fi-cmss-3d gives better result than 5.1 since it "muffles/blur"
sound from behind. And i noticed that the suris software does the same, that it muffles the sound from the rear speakers(im not gonna use the software though, since it have buzzing noise when no audio is played.

So i wounder if there is somehow to improve the surround localisation while still using 5.1(since the overal sound is better with 5.1 from my test) and the x-fi xtremegamer soundcard, like using the same technique as cmss-3d for example. The only thing i found so far is making the rear speakers weaker, but then 5m from behind can be the same as 10m from front.

Thanks in advance
 
Stereo headphones with a virtual surround algorithm like CMSS-3D or Dolby Headphone sound much better in games than these multi-driver headsets.
 
i kinda guess that, but now when i do have a 5.1 i would like to get to use it instead of buying a new. Like if i could get cmss-3d working with 5.1 setup for example.
 
CMSS-3D sounds like a tin can. Its terrible. Just get nice open backed stereo headphones and let the game do the work.

I have a tritton ax-pro headset and it works for surround, worked best in Battlefield Bad Company 2, not so much in other games. I also noted that it worked best when plugged straight in, with all the bells and whistles disabled. No CMSS-3D, no Creative Crystallization, or EQ's or reverb or any of that filler.

Now I'm using Audio Technica ATH-AD900X plugged straight into the headphone jack on my soundcard, all drivers disabled. Has better surround in stereo than the Ax Pro in 5.1 analog set in every game except BFBC2. Modern games like BF3, Hawken, Crysis, Mechwarrior, etc etc, all have very nice sound built into them. You don't need extra drivers like you used to.
 
Yeah, I would imagine that throwing CMSS or Dolby processing on top of the pseudo surround sound of these headsets is a crap shoot and I'd also try it with everyone off. Since I believe this headsets like to present themselves as 5.1 systems to Windows to function properly, you won't have the option to enable any of the virtual surround features anyway (or shouldn't). That said, as mentioned, you'll get superior surround sound using a decent pair of stereo headphones + CMSS/DH/nothing vs. 5.1 headphones + nothing.
 
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