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Impossible $350 build.

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Just a little background, a friend of mine wants to put together a ultra cheap computer since his just died and needs this A.S.A.P. I've been struggling to match his budget becuase $350 is extremely tight for a complete system. Any advice on which direction to go is totally appreciated since this is giving me a bit of a headache! I tried going with a Athlon II X3 455 build, but trying to cram everything else into that budget while keeping the build respectable is such a daunting task and that is why I turned to [H]. So here's the skinny...

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Primarily for gaming. Nothing too serious, but relatively simple games like WoW and Counterstrike. A fair bit of multitasking in there such as having web browsers open, music player, chat program like AIM and such open while gaming.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
Pretty strict budget of $350 total. He lives in Florida if that helps in avoiding tax.

3) Where do you live?
Florida.

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
Most of the major components. He already has the peripherals, case and OS, so the things we need are...

Motherboard
CPU
RAM (Wants 4GB)
Hard Drive (At least 300GB)
WiFi Card
Video Card (Possibly integrated GPU?)
PSU
ODD

All that for $350...whew!

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
The only things he will be reusing are the peripherals like mouse, keyboard, monitor (19") and case.

6) Will you be overclocking?
Highly doubt it.

7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
Pretty ancient 19" CRT.

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
As soon as possible, within the week or so.

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? etc.
Nothing fancy at all, just needs wireless internet. Other than that it's a very standard build with no frills. Just the bare basics listed above.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
Yes, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.
 
Dont build a computer for that price range.

Go to Dell and buy something. It only becomes cheaper/better to make your own at around $800.
You will get more bang for your buck buying a premade stock machine.
 
Microcenter has really good cheap CPU and motherboards. Most of the time they are running a buy a AMD CPU and get a free motherboard -- so for ~$100 you get both a quad core CPU and the motherboard.

Otherwise if no Microcenter is in reach then tiger direct you usually has about the best combo deals I've seen. Sign up for their newsletter. They recently sent out a deal that fits your bill.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits


I'd skimp on the CPU as necessary to avoid integrated GPU if I were you and the intent was gaming. Something like a $50 used 8800GT or 9800GT off this forum in the for sale for trade section would be worlds better than the integrated GPU and worth cutting back somewhere else if necessary.
 
65 ASUS M4A78LT-M LE AM3 AMD 780L Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
55SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
45 Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W Continuous Power ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V
45 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
60 AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3
80 SAPPHIRE 100287L Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB
12 Rosewill RNX-G1 USB 2.0 Wireless
19 ASUS 24X Burner Black SATA

Total: $380
Rebates: $25 (graphics card and motherboard)
Minus Rebates: $355

That's about as good as I could find. You could swap the chip out for an athlon x3 as you mentioned for another $20.
 

OMG you copied me.... almost lol!

Except you used the VGA 5670 instead of the one with the display port that I picked. I'd stay away from VGA at this point. If you read his post he has an old CRT monitor, so it will probably be replaced in the future, and display port is on the way in, VGA on the way out, and he can use the DVI to VGA adapter included with the one I picked.
 
I'd skimp on the CPU as necessary to avoid integrated GPU if I were you and the intent was gaming. Something like a $50 used 8800GT or 9800GT off this forum in the for sale for trade section would be worlds better than the integrated GPU and worth cutting back somewhere else if necessary.

I agree on the part about using a dedicated GPU, especially since he wants to game on it.

I would however stay away from DX 10 GPUs in this case. One of the games he plays is WoW, and wow gets huge FPS gains from DX 11.

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Same hardware, DX 9 vs DX 11.

The other games like counterstrike just aren't that demanding at all.

That being said, he is using a 4:3 CRT, so the max resolution is likely 1280x1024. He won't need much more than the 5670 me and hoss picked out to game with decent quality at that resolution.
 
Dont build a computer for that price range.

Go to Dell and buy something. It only becomes cheaper/better to make your own at around $800.
You will get more bang for your buck buying a premade stock machine.

That was exactly the first thing I suggested, but he shot it down and literally pleaded with me to assemble a custom system since the computer that just died was a Compaq Presario and he absolutely loathed it. :p

65 ASUS M4A78LT-M LE AM3 AMD 780L Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
55SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
45 Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W Continuous Power ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V
45 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
60 AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3
80 SAPPHIRE 100287L Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB
12 Rosewill RNX-G1 USB 2.0 Wireless
19 ASUS 24X Burner Black SATA

Total: $380
Rebates: $25 (graphics card and motherboard)
Minus Rebates: $355

That's about as good as I could find. You could swap the chip out for an athlon x3 as you mentioned for another $20.


Damn you guys are f-ing brilliant! I can't imagine scraping that together was any easy task. Both these builds look pretty solid considering the price though I'm wondering if he can push the budget just a bit more to fit that X3 in. I'm going to go ahead and send him these builds or mix and match parts from everything everyone suggested in this thread thus far.

if he can get by with 2gigs of ram he can save $20 now and get the x3 cpu or a stronger gpu there was a nice deal for a 5770 $119 + fs. He can always add another 2 gig stick later.

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $22.99 + $0.99 shipping.

PowerColor AX5770 1GBD5-H Radeon HD 5770 1GB $119.99 + fs

Hmm, now that is some food for thought, I'll ask him what he thinks about this. Thanks everyone!
 
Well a few people here managed to do it.

So ill admit i was wrong. I guess you can build a computer for that price.
 
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