im shaking...i did it.......order complete.

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erf

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it will be here in 3 or 4 days.

x2 4200
evga sli mobo/7800gtx combo
2x1024 ocz value pc3200
160g sataII hitachi hd
nec dvd/cd rw
zalman 7700 120mm
win xp home
logitech 6 button optical mouse
aopen cheap ass kb

total = 1563.65

i will order my cooler master case tomorrow.

im bout to order my NEC 19" here in a bit.

will you guys help me piece this together when i get the parts? thanks. love you.

and to think i was about to order an alienware.....hardocp....please forgive me. love you.
 
need a power supply no? :p

and many people here know how to build (i myself) so of course we will help you build it and put it together

soulsaver_8229
 
I'm sorry, but that PS is just not gonna cut it. You've designed a nice high end PC, your gonna have to use a somewhat high end PS. Look to spend around $100 for a good PS.
 
autobot said:
I'm sorry, but that PS is just not gonna cut it. You've designed a nice high end PC, your gonna have to use a somewhat high end PS. Look to spend around $100 for a good PS.
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damn it! don't say this! i mean will i even be able to run it at all? it's gonna suck to have all these parts and have to wait to get money for a psu. i was almost sure that this psu would work. a reviews i read for non sli gtx's said that 350wtt psu's should be sufficient.
 
It's not the watts, it's the amps. You can have a junker 650w power supply and it still might not run as stable as a high quality 380w.
 
I'd say $80 can get you a good enough Antec PSU. About 430w.
 
what about this case and included power supply?
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Are you a Gamblin Man? Read this..

So I am NOT joking around when I ask you to stay away from the psu's
listed on the Do Not Buy list below, as the best case scenario will be
you having an underpowered rig with instability problems, while the worst case scenario is it blowing up, and burning down computer as well as your house.

I can not stress this enough: your computer is an investment, protect
it. You spent thousands on your computers, some of you, and you want to put a $60 power supply in it. Don't let a $60 supply kill your $3000 computer. You wouldn't want your investment to go by something you were warned about and could have prevented by shelling out another $60.

So without Further ado, I present to you the list of Un-reccomended and

Unscrupulous Power Supply Companies

Achieve
Aerocool
Allied
Aspire
Codegen
Coolmax
Demon
Deer
Devanni.
Dynapower
Eagle
InWin
JustPC
Kingwin
L&C
Linkworld
MGE,
Power-Man
Powmax
Power-Up
Raidmax
Thermaltakes (I’m gonna quote Johnny guru here, but personally I would NEVER put another one in my machine)
Quote:
I think for this crowd, if you recommend any of the Thermaltake ATX12V models, but none of the TruePower 480W PSU's, you wouldn't be doing anyone any disservice


Thats out of the power supply thread sticky..
 
erf said:
damn it! don't say this! i mean will i even be able to run it at all? it's gonna suck to have all these parts and have to wait to get money for a psu. i was almost sure that this psu would work. a reviews i read for non sli gtx's said that 350wtt psu's should be sufficient.
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If there is any part you should spend money on getting a good one of, it SHOULD BE the PSU. What good is $1500 in parts, if theres no electricity in them?
 
Russ said:
I'd say $80 can get you a good enough Antec PSU. About 430w.
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can you suggest one?

see it sucks because i only have 100 for case and psu.
 
Well you have a few options. Cancell order b4 it's processed and charged, and re-think things. Return something. Or buy a decent PSU, and run naked on a desk untill you have enough money. Another thing is that I highly suggest not bothering with some $40-$60 case, you'll regret it like most people do (In case this is what your thinking). Get a solid quality built case from the start.
 
If you are planning on buying a 19" LCD don't waste your money. They only support 1280X1024 like all 17" LCDs. That and usually the response time and contrast ratios are better on 17" LCDs. If you are getting a CRT monitor then disregard this.
 
Major_A said:
If you are planning on buying a 19" LCD don't waste your money. They only support 1280X1024 like all 17" LCDs. That and usually the response time and contrast ratios are better on 17" LCDs. If you are getting a CRT monitor then disregard this.
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i ordered a samsung 915v. i'm not interested in playing above 1280x1024. i'm actually satisfied with 1024x768 but i don't want my gtx to go to waste. this samsung has 8ms response so i should be ok.
 
8ms but poor viewing angles and poor colors, but if you don't have anything different for comparision you probably won't notice. You will want to run at whatever the monitor's native res is however.
 
Russ said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103928

$69, pretty good. Then you can get a Raidmax for $30 or something.
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cool, i went ahead and ordered the cooler master centurion without the power supply and hopefully i'll be able to order this psu in a couple of days.

now i have a really odd question. am i going to need a seperate ethernet board (or whatever you call it) for my high speed internet. the evga board i got has integrated LAN support will this be what i plug my cat5 cable into for broadband? :p and to think that i'm about to be handling 1500.00 in computer tech. :cool:
 
Also, why in god's name did you go for XP Home?

You've got a fresh system..XP Pro x32 at the least, XP Pro x64 Edition preferably!
 
nothing wrong with xp home unless he's going to join a domain or wishes to use remote desktop for some strange reason
 
erf said:
x2 4200
evga sli mobo/7800gtx combo
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I'm sorry. I'm going to have to kill you now.

*sigh* I need more money, I swear.


Well, anyway, on subject, on the lan, you should be fine with the onboard. The drivers will be included with the motherboard's driver disc (and if you didn't get one, someone screwed up with the packaging.) Most are a nvidia chip and the reference drivers will work just fine. Every now and then I see a rare case where the manufacturer elected to use another brand for reasons unknown to me and you have to get later drivers from either the manufacturer themselves or the maker of the actual chip used.

BTW, you might want to look into the VNC clones (my personal favorite being TightVNC) if you DID want remote desktop. Same basic thing, just ever so slightly slower and able to work from OTHER operating systems (eg earlier windows, or linux, or whatever, not just windows xp.)
 
now i have a really odd question. am i going to need a seperate ethernet board (or whatever you call it) for my high speed internet. the evga board i got has integrated LAN support will this be what i plug my cat5 cable into for broadband? and to think that i'm about to be handling 1500.00 in computer tech.
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Yes that's where you plug in your cat5/5e/6 cable in. Be sure to get the latest drivers for your motherboard though.

By the way, I can vouch for that NEC DVDRW you got, it's the ND-3540A right?
 
Marduk said:
Also, why in god's name did you go for XP Home?

You've got a fresh system..XP Pro x32 at the least, XP Pro x64 Edition preferably!
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No sense in getting Winx64 now when Vista will be x64.
 
But if you're going to BUY XP..why not get the best you can for your system for the next 16 months? Why not use the 64 bit you have now, & later?
 
Marduk said:
But if you're going to BUY XP..why not get the best you can for your system for the next 16 months? Why not use the 64 bit you have now, & later?
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Well there's a reason MS is essentially giving the OS away. There aren't many companies writing decent drivers for the OS. 64 bit applications are almost non-existent. The OS reminds me of when Win XP first came out, but eventually XP got the support it needed. Whereas I don't ever see XP 64 getting much support at all.
 
ok boys lets get back on topic.

will my comp run quake 4 ok? i mean my real concern is the unreal 3 engine. damn i'm kinda regretting spending all that bread..........my girly says i cant get a xbox 360 now. fuck. :(

oh and also....how much of a performance leap are we talking about from the sys specs in my sig?
 
I'll try to answer this question the best way I can... How the hell do we know how a game that isn't out yet is going to run? If I were to venture a guess I would imagine the setup will run it just fine.
 
Tiny said:
No sense in getting Winx64 now when Vista will be x64.
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No sense getting XP x64 now when Vista will be x64... and then you can buy XP x64 for half the price, and once you change the skin, it's the same operating system! :D

Actually, in all seriousness, doesn't the program itself need to be 64 bit as well as the OS?
 
ok, heres the deal. when i first bought the system in my sig ut2k4 wasn't out yet....it came out like hmm 18 months after i got my rig. when it came out i was able to play at 1028x724 with all gfx set to low.

are my old rig and the rig i'm getting relative in this sense? i mean the unreal 3 engine is coming out in like 18 months so i wonder if i will be forced to turn my shizzle all the way down to get 100fps.

i hope the recommended requirments are something like:

amd x2 3800, gf 6 series and up direct x9 compatible, 1gb ram, etc.

then i will be like hell yeah, it was worth spending that 100 extra cold ones on that dual core. :D
 
I'm pretty sure you can run 32-bit applications in 64-bit windows, however, you loose every single benefit of using 64-bit mode if you do I think. I think it drags the whole system down to 32-bit mode or something like that even, but, I'm not 100% sure. Either way, it is true that currently 64-bit support is pretty minimal. However, while I don't remember such times very well, I think 32-bit saw the same sort of slow support trend that 64-bit is seeing. That doesn't mean we won't all go 100% 64-bit someday, just not necessarily today. In the meantime, 32-bit winxp is perfectly fine and will play games just as well as the 64-bit version with little to no benefit from 64-bit windows right now.

Anyway, the important thing is the video card, not CPU. Once you meet the minimal CPU needs (eg A64 3200+ or so) you won't notice huge differences in gaming from the CPU (I'm not saying you won't notice any, just very very little) irregardless of any CPU related things like going from 32-bit to 64-bit. For now and a bit to come. However, with video cards, you WILL notice. Even just going from 6600GT to 6800nu you notice. Games are constantly pushing video card limits, but, CPU limits are hard to hit (especially considering that they are talking about removing yet another load from the CPU with hardware physics acceleration which I think I read that Unreal 3 may well end up using.)
 
Nazo said:
I'm pretty sure you can run 32-bit applications in 64-bit windows, however, you loose every single benefit of using 64-bit mode if you do I think. I think it drags the whole system down to 32-bit mode or something like that even, but, I'm not 100% sure. Either way, it is true that currently 64-bit support is pretty minimal. However, while I don't remember such times very well, I think 32-bit saw the same sort of slow support trend that 64-bit is seeing. That doesn't mean we won't all go 100% 64-bit someday, just not necessarily today. In the meantime, 32-bit winxp is perfectly fine and will play games just as well as the 64-bit version with little to no benefit from 64-bit windows right now.

Anyway, the important thing is the video card, not CPU. Once you meet the minimal CPU needs (eg A64 3200+ or so) you won't notice huge differences in gaming from the CPU (I'm not saying you won't notice any, just very very little) irregardless of any CPU related things like going from 32-bit to 64-bit. For now and a bit to come. However, with video cards, you WILL notice. Even just going from 6600GT to 6800nu you notice. Games are constantly pushing video card limits, but, CPU limits are hard to hit (especially considering that they are talking about removing yet another load from the CPU with hardware physics acceleration which I think I read that Unreal 3 may well end up using.)
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hell yeah...so that means that the unreal 3 engine will be gpu denpendant? damn that engine just looks so nice......i can't wait to see what the sys requirements are. so how exactly will the unreal 3 engine utilize multiple cpu architecture? does anyone have a clue about this?
 
Well, you'll need an Athlon 64 to get it running smoothly, and MAYBE even as much as the equivalent of a 3400+ (that includes an oced 3000+ or whatever.) I wouldn't expect much though. You'd be surprised what my old "3400+ barton" (eg 2.5GHz, 200FSB) managed to run smoothly. So, yeah, I'd expect it to be more GPU dependant, however, if it really does take advantage of the hardware physics, it might mean if you don't have the hardware accelerator you'll need some extra CPU power.

Don't know about multiprocessor/core handling, but, as one person elsewhere has pointed out, at the very least the benefit would be that it would run a bit more smoothly just due to the fact that it means those things running in the background can run a bit more smoothly, so they don't affect the foreground as much. Right now I'm not inclined to say it will benefit any huge amount even if they do try to throw in basic multiprocessor/core support.
 
erf said:
damn it! don't say this! i mean will i even be able to run it at all? it's gonna suck to have all these parts and have to wait to get money for a psu. i was almost sure that this psu would work. a reviews i read for non sli gtx's said that 350wtt psu's should be sufficient.
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yes it will run. Just need to get a new more powerful one.
 
32 bit programs on a 64 bit OS will run fine, it's a hassle to find the compatible drivers though.
 
UnMinded said:
yes it will run. Just need to get a new more powerful one.
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Yeah, 350W is pretty well the absolute minimum you need to get things running these days if you want any semblance of stability. Still, a better power supply (and by better I don't necessarily mean a higher wattage output, but, instead, more along the lines of a more stable one) will make the system even more stable. If those voltages jump too much, it will limit overclocking and such since you have to kind of push things to the limits. I saw this back with my previous cpu and this PSU (not really the psu's fault so much as my dirty lines thanks to really crappy wiring in this house) when I was running the minimum voltage to keep the CPU stable at 200x12.5, but, roughly once a week it would dip just low enough at a wrong moment and the system would go unstable on me (usually a reboot.) This is the effect that a low end PSU has, and with dirty lines even a mid range has this effect. Assuming you don't have dirty lines, a good mid-range one is enough. And by low end, I mean things like generic (though the occasional generic may be as good as some brand name ones.)
 
Marduk said:
Also, why in god's name did you go for XP Home?

You've got a fresh system..XP Pro x32 at the least, XP Pro x64 Edition preferably!
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Because for the average user, XP Pro adds no necessary features, for a bit more money. Makes no sense. Same with x64.
 
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