I'm debating buying a console

Xbox 360s online setup is a million times better then ps3s. You can easily see who is on what games and chat with your friends no matter what they are doing. I feel so more connected with my friends on the 360.

The controller is better too :p
 
darkhunter139 said:
Xbox 360s online setup is a million times better then ps3s. You can easily see who is on what games and chat with your friends no matter what they are doing. I feel so more connected with my friends on the 360.

The controller is better too :p
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This is 100% subjective, but I agree.
 
darkhunter139 said:
Xbox 360s online setup is a million times better then ps3s. You can easily see who is on what games and chat with your friends no matter what they are doing. I feel so more connected with my friends on the 360.

The controller is better too :p
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I agree....the 360s online setup is much more to my liking. Although I find myself playing the PS3 more often then not. Seems to be more games to my liking on the PS3
 
Rampage1329 said:
No you download them and stream. Its not very hard, for me the quality degradation isn't a big deal. None of my friends can tell a difference either.
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Well that's a completely different beast isn't it? They are talking about legal streaming services online (i.e Hulu, Netflix, Vudu, etc.) not illegal downloading of bit for bit bluray rips.

And on topic, I would get a PS3. It simply has the best selection of games of this generation, it's online is free and it has a built in blu-ray player. Xbox Live is a better service imo but it's 60 dollars a year and you only have the Halo's, Gears, and Forza's for exclusives. Well, ones worth playing anyway.
 
Best selection of games? It's like I entered some alternative reality where fiction is truth, and truth is fiction.
 
Dreaz said:
Best selection of games? It's like I entered some alternative reality where fiction is truth, and truth is fiction.
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You could always elaborate but it was an opinionated post, much like all posts here. I have both systems, and the "exclusive" outlook for the future is without question in the PS3's favor. Much like the previous two years the quality of their titles are only going to get better.
 
next-Jin said:
Well that's a completely different beast isn't it? They are talking about legal streaming services online (i.e Hulu, Netflix, Vudu, etc.) not illegal downloading of bit for bit bluray rips.

And on topic, I would get a PS3. It simply has the best selection of games of this generation, it's online is free and it has a built in blu-ray player. Xbox Live is a better service imo but it's 60 dollars a year and you only have the Halo's, Gears, and Forza's for exclusives. Well, ones worth playing anyway.
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i didn't see legal implied or mentioned anywhere in this thread, also xbox has better media capabilities with its integration with media center.
 
Dreaz said:
Best selection of games? It's like I entered some alternative reality where fiction is truth, and truth is fiction.
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Even if the 360 was a consideration here (and it was never mentioned by the OP) do you really think it has a better selection of games? Sure....if your into shooters then you have your fill but I do think the PS3 has a better choice of AAA titles in different genre's so therefore has a better choice of games. Also for a PC gamer, who will most likely play most of what the 360 has as a console exclusive, the PS3 is a more logical choice exclusives wise.

The Wii is even worse. If it doesn't have some kind of Nintendo character driving or running around then it's barely worth playing.

Rampage1329 said:
also xbox has better media capabilities with its integration with media center.
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Couldn't disagree more, in my experience the PS3 shits on the 360 from a massive height multimedia wise. It's quicker, easier to navigate and has the added option of BR. The 360 dash is just too clunky and cluttered for easy access for streaming.....IMO of course. It also can be very fussy, even using PS3 Media Server it will not play 3d trailers in MKV transcoded whereas the PS3 doesn't break a sweat.
 
Rampage1329 said:
i didn't see legal implied or mentioned anywhere in this thread, also xbox has better media capabilities with its integration with media center.
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It was implied the minute EVERYONE was talking about "Internet Streaming", your not streaming off the internet, all your doing is illegally downloading a bit for bit 25GB file, saving it to a NAS/or your PC then using PS3Mediaplayer to "Stream" it through your home network.
 
get a 360 or a Wii


I like my PS3... it actually gets the most play time, but Sony treats their customers like they should be lucky to own such a device. MS isn't great, they nickel and dime you over live and accessories... but they at least pretend to appreciate their customers.

Sony's arrogance just bugs the hell out of me.

If you do get a PS3, get it used :)
 
Tigerblade said:
Couldn't disagree more, in my experience the PS3 shits on the 360 from a massive height multimedia wise. It's quicker, easier to navigate and has the added option of BR. The 360 dash is just too clunky and cluttered for easy access for streaming.....IMO of course. It also can be very fussy, even using PS3 Media Server it will not play 3d trailers in MKV transcoded whereas the PS3 doesn't break a sweat.
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I stream MKV just fine through Media Center Extender. No need to transcode on the fly or anyof that other bs. Also, the ps3 doesn't save your spot in the media, so you can resume in another spot.

I find the ps3 is way more temperamental when accepting formats. As long as it can play via media center, i can stream it. I can even add a tv tuner car, and watch tv via a wired network. This is all built in functionality, with little or no setup. The blue ray doesn't do this at all.

The only thing the PS3 has right now is HULU, and I wasn't that impressed with its library. Plus the xbox has an espn app right now.

next-Jin said:
It was implied the minute EVERYONE was talking about "Internet Streaming", your not streaming off the internet, all your doing is illegally downloading a bit for bit 25GB file, saving it to a NAS/or your PC then using PS3Mediaplayer to "Stream" it through your home network.
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I've seen one quote for internet streaming. Look if you have the media on your network, not via the internet (legal or illegal) you can achieve good enough video quality for most people.
Plus with the XBOX you can rent 1080p movies via the zune service legally.
 
I stream full Blu Ray rips from my computer to my 360 and my eyes cannot see any loss.
 
spindoctor said:
Agreed. The OP is a PC gamer so a PS3 is a much better choice.
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I'm a PC gamer and I easily chose the 360 over a PS3. Why? Simple, all of my friends and coworkers own 360s and I can use my Live gamertag on both my 360 and my PC (GFWL) making for a seemless transition.

PS3 is great and all, but what good is a console if you dont have anyone to play with? I'm 31, I dont go meeting 'new friends' online, my gaming takes place when my son is asleep and my multiplayer gaming takes place when my RL friends are online.

One should always buy a console based on 2 things ..

1. Games
2. Where you friends are.

I have no need for blu ray since I use a combination of Netflix, Hulu and streaming HD movies/tv to my 360. One less collection I have to spend money on. :D

But I"m not knocking people who own a PS3, to each his own. I have no desire to play Sony exclusives since I never owned a PS1 or PS2 ... its all 100% moot to me, I play games I want and where my friends are.
 
Rampage1329 said:
I've seen one quote for internet streaming. Look if you have the media on your network, not via the internet (legal or illegal) you can achieve good enough video quality for most people.

Plus with the XBOX you can rent 1080p movies via the zune service legally.
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Thuleman said:
Just to pitch in that a blu ray player is becoming largely irrelevant unless you make it a habit to rent physical blu rays and/or you have a slow internet connection. The availability of HD streaming for a lower combined price than it costs you to rent some blu ray discs really puts physical discs at a huge disadvantage. Furthermore, buying a stand alone blu ray and a wii will be less expensive than a ps3, and either of those will suck less power than a ps3 if electricity cost is an issue (I know it is for me paying nearly 20 cents/kWh).
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anonmoniker said:
LOL, ummm NO.

There is no comparison whatsoever between "HD" streaming and physical blu rays if you have a good TV.
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Thuleman said:
Actually, there's no difference between HD streaming and a physical blu ray if you have a good Internet connection. 1920×1080 is 1920×1080 no matter where it comes from, the TV itself becomes irrelevant.

The difference is the video codec, the frame rate, and the audio quality. However, I think that it's fair to say that folks who have to ponder whether or not to spend $200 aren't the crowd that necessarily appreciates the actual differences between streaming and physical, so for practical purposes they are the same.
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YeuEmMaiMai said:
love how you have to throw that "if you have" in there. Sorry but I have seen streaming HD on netflix with a 25mpbs cable connection and blu-ray and blu-ray wins hands down not even close see you later.....
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pigwalk said:
No. Just no. Not even close.
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anonmoniker said:
Others have already corrected your ignorance on the topic but I'm going to step in and berate you again. Blu Rays have 25GB+ capacity, tell me what streaming site streams files that large. You can't, because as far as I'm aware no site does, and almost nobody has the connection to stream at that quality regardless. I love how you make a false claim and then try to defend it by saying "oh, OP is an undiscerning rube, he won't notice the difference." Why not just tell the truth and let him make his own decision?

The TV is hardly irrelevant. Spoken like someone who doesn't have a nice TV. On a laptop screen, the difference between a stream and a blu ray isn't going to be nearly as apparent. Similarly, a lot of LCDs are lacking in visual fidelity, as are even the earlier 1080p plasmas from even Panasonic. On my Pioneer Elite, streaming looks like garbage compared to a physical disk.
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Rampage1329 said:
I stream the 1080p hidef mkv rips. I don't notice a difference.
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That was the majority of the discussion before you chimed in and not that it really matters but:

Rampage1329 said:
Plus with the XBOX you can rent 1080p movies via the zune service legally.
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Do you even own a PS3? The PS3 has the PSN Store Movie Section and they have Vudu for legal HD streams/purchases.
 
theNoid said:
PS3 is great and all, but what good is a console if you dont have anyone to play with?
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I only game solo or online vs strangers, I don't game with my RL friends. I drink and cause shenanigans with em.

Like you said, to each his own :D
 
Get a PS3 and use GameFly to rent games. I do 2 games at a time, love it!
 
theNoid said:
I'm a PC gamer and I easily chose the 360 over a PS3. Why? Simple, all of my friends and coworkers own 360s and I can use my Live gamertag on both my 360 and my PC (GFWL) making for a seemless transition.

PS3 is great and all, but what good is a console if you dont have anyone to play with?
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I agree, if playing with friends is the priority then one should definitely pick the console that best satisfies that requirement.

My point was for which one would have the better games. The PS3 shits all over the 360 as far as exclusives go, and since he plays (and prefers) the PC, that's where he would choose to play multiplatform titles. The combination of PC+PS3 would give him a wider choice of better games than the PC+360 would.
 
spindoctor said:
I agree, if playing with friends is the priority then one should definitely pick the console that best satisfies that requirement.

My point was for which one would have the better games. The PS3 shits all over the 360 as far as exclusives go, and since he plays (and prefers) the PC, that's where he would choose to play multiplatform titles. The combination of PC+PS3 would give him a wider choice of better games than the PC+360 would.
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Definitely a good point, if Sony exclusives are something you are interested in than yes the PS3 would be a good compliment to the PC.
 
next-Jin said:
That was the majority of the discussion before you chimed in and not that it really matters but:



Do you even own a PS3? The PS3 has the PSN Store Movie Section and they have Vudu for legal HD streams/purchases.
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Yeah I own one. I think its a loud noisy piece of junk. IMHO, i use it for gt5 and thats it. The media capabilities over the network aren't that good, i don't rent blue rays, and the ps3 netflix isn't that good.
 
Rampage1329 said:
I stream MKV just fine through Media Center Extender. No need to transcode on the fly or anyof that other bs. Also, the ps3 doesn't save your spot in the media, so you can resume in another spot.

I find the ps3 is way more temperamental when accepting formats. As long as it can play via media center, i can stream it. I can even add a tv tuner car, and watch tv via a wired network. This is all built in functionality, with little or no setup. The blue ray doesn't do this at all.
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Your using the wrong software. PS3 Media Server works on both the PS3 and 360 and supports saved spots amongst alot of other things.You may also wanna check a little box called PlayTV too, no need for a PC whatsoever and turns your PS3 into a PVR.....another feather in it's media centre capabilities cap. IIRC it's only available in Europe and Australia but still, it does what it does. Neat little box too.

Rampage1329 said:
Yeah I own one. I think its a loud noisy piece of junk. IMHO, i use it for gt5 and thats it. The media capabilities over the network aren't that good, i don't rent blue rays, and the ps3 netflix isn't that good.
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I'll never get this. You'll spend good money for a machine you think is junk and will never use to it's full potential all for one average game :confused:

ok.......
 
Rampage1329 said:
Yeah I own one. I think its a loud noisy piece of junk. IMHO, i use it for gt5 and thats it. The media capabilities over the network aren't that good, i don't rent blue rays, and the ps3 netflix isn't that good.
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PS3 Netflix is basically the exact same thing except the 360 Netflix has a different interface. The PS3 version allows you to see more movie selections with it's interface. The PS3 has not needed the Netflix disc for awhile now.

It has universally been considered a quiet system especially when compared to the old 360 models pre "S". Saying you only use it to play GT5 seems to be a shot at it's library which is nonsense.

The only legitimate claim you have made this entire thread so far is "maybe" it's media center integration and even then people are bringing up several good points.
 
I've never consiered the PS3 to be "noisy"...especially compared to the old 360s and their built-in Chinooks that power them.
 
If you like playing by yourself, go PS3. If you have friends or like to play with people online, go 360.
 
Dreaz said:
If you like playing by yourself, go PS3. If you have friends or like to play with people online, go 360.
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I can understand that if you have alot of friends on Live but if you have no friends at all on either system then they are a much of a muchness bar yearly costs. They both have sold circa 50mill units so there are plenty of randoms online whatever you decide to play. Only consideration is do you want to go the free route or not......

tbh tho I dunno why this has turned into a PS3 v 360 debate......the OP was deciding between a Wii and a PS3.
 
Tigerblade said:
tbh tho I dunno why this has turned into a PS3 v 360 debate......the OP was deciding between a Wii and a PS3.
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I don't believe you can have any type of conversation on consoles without bringing them both up lol. Especially when we ALL KNOW the Playstation 3 is the superior system :eek: :D

/runs off
 
Dreaz said:
If you like playing by yourself, go PS3. If you have friends or like to play with people online, go 360.
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Sadly, this is incorrect. Playing by yourself you go PS3? They have more than enough people to play online with. So people who own PS3's have no other friends that own one? Right.

PS3 vs. 360 debates always makes me laugh.
 
Tigerblade said:
Your using the wrong software. PS3 Media Server works on both the PS3 and 360 and supports saved spots amongst alot of other things.You may also wanna check a little box called PlayTV too, no need for a PC whatsoever and turns your PS3 into a PVR.....another feather in it's media centre capabilities cap. IIRC it's only available in Europe and Australia but still, it does what it does. Neat little box too.



I'll never get this. You'll spend good money for a machine you think is junk and will never use to it's full potential all for one average game :confused:

ok.......
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To be fair i haven't used ps3 media server in a few years, but i don't really have a need for it. The media center thats built into windows 7 is just too good, no point in using the ps3. I bought the ps3 used from a friend of mine, he got a new one through insurance, and the hdmi port stopped working after an outage. I was hoping to use it for a second tv, to stream videos to it, and it just never worked out.
 
Well I went ahead and bought a PS3. I ordered Demon's souls instead of RDR. I may wait on RDR to come down in price a few dollars. I'm justifying this purchase on the the fact that the PS3 has a blu-ray player.

I've had a Xbox 360 in the past (2006). It was noisy as Hades and had a gigantic power brick which annoyed me greatly. I'll post my impressions on the PS3 when I get it on Tuesday.
 
Wii the least costly of the 3, crude graphics, if you got young kids they won't know the difference!

XBOX 360 has a large back catalog, I see more 1080i(p) games, Netflix, Kinect for Family fun, but I hate you have to pay $59.99 a year for XBOX Live. I do like that I'm finding my old favorites on the marketplace Arcade: Doom, Doom II, WolfenStein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D.

PS3 tends to be $100.00 more but you'll never pay a Yearly Fee, Blu-ray, NetFlix, Vudo on Demand, supports 3D, and the next big trend I see coming is Move FPS Games. Killzone3 with New Sony SharpShooter Move gun comes out Next Week!

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J W said:
Well I went ahead and bought a PS3. I ordered Demon's souls instead of RDR. I may wait on RDR to come down in price a few dollars. I'm justifying this purchase on the the fact that the PS3 has a blu-ray player.

I've had a Xbox 360 in the past (2006). It was noisy as Hades and had a gigantic power brick which annoyed me greatly. I'll post my impressions on the PS3 when I get it on Tuesday.
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Or when they release a RDR GOTY edition with all the included DLCs.

I bought a ps3 last month and it was one of the best purchases I've made.
 
lil layzie said:
Or when they release a RDR GOTY edition with all the included DLCs.
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R* already released a disk with all of the RDR DLC. It's on the Undead Nightmare disk. It doesn't have the main quest so you're still better off getting the normal game. But I think this is all we are getting, no GOTY version.

FYI...most of the DLC is for online multiplayer only, you might want to skip most of it unless you plan on playing online. Undead Nightmare has a fun single player campaign that takes about 6 hours. That's the only single player DLC there is.
 
It's much quieter than I thought it would be. I think it may even be quieter than the PS2. The interface may be a bit more complicated than xbox 360, but it's hardly what I would consider bad.

So far I'm happy with my purchase.
 
Good choice with Demon's Souls. It's one of the best, perhaps the best, exclusive game this generation.
 
J W said:
It's much quieter than I thought it would be. I think it may even be quieter than the PS2. The interface may be a bit more complicated than xbox 360, but it's hardly what I would consider bad.

So far I'm happy with my purchase.
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Glad you like it. The exclusives you'll find are definitely more worth it.
 
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