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IDE RAID or SATA?

Viper87227

Viper87227

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I am getting a new motherboard, with IDE and SATA RAID. I have a 120GB, 2x80GB, and a 60GB IDE drives. My original though was move my OS from the 120GB to the 60GB, then sell it for 1 oe 2 more 80GB drives and setting up a raid 0 array on the 80GB, and using the 60GB for windows and backup of any files I cant afford to loose the the array goes bad.I would use the RAID array mostly for games. However, woudl I see any performance gain wuing Raid 0? I assume I wont gain a lick of FPS in games, but woud it cut on load times?

My other option would be to get a SATA drive instead, but woult teh tranfer rate of sata be enough to benifit over IDE raid, or waould that still be faster? A third option would be to try and trade off the 2x80GB IDE for 2x80GB SATA drives, do RAID 0 with those, and keep the 120GB and 60B for whatever. What woudl be the best cource of action?
 
RAID Zero array will improve the read/write throughput. I have two arrays. I use the first array on extremely fast Raptor SATA drives for my OS and for my programs. I then use the other array for all music, video, general storage etc....

Your machine will boot faster and load games/maps etc...quicker when using a Raid zero. That array will improve the performance of any program that use a large amount of swap space (graphics, photoshop, etc..)

As far as what do do with all your given drives.

Buying SATA offers you a 30-50% improvement in read/write throughput regardless of raid or not. Raid ATA is slower that Raid SATA. Single ATA is slower than single SATA.

I would probably take the two 80's you have, make them the bootable raid0 array on the MB and then just plug the other drives as separates. You might run out of IDE controllers, depends on the board you buy. You could also buy a raid controller card as well. Promise makes nice ones and they generally perform better than on board RAID because they don't require the CPU overhead.

Hope this helps.
 
dabiggoober said:
RAID Zero array will improve the read/write throughput. I have two arrays. I use the first array on extremely fast Raptor SATA drives for my OS and for my programs. I then use the other array for all music, video, general storage etc....

Your machine will boot faster and load games/maps etc...quicker when using a Raid zero. That array will improve the performance of any program that use a large amount of swap space (graphics, photoshop, etc..)

As far as what do do with all your given drives.

Buying SATA offers you a 30-50% improvement in read/write throughput regardless of raid or not. Raid ATA is slower that Raid SATA. Single ATA is slower than single SATA.

I would probably take the two 80's you have, make them the bootable raid0 array on the MB and then just plug the other drives as separates. You might run out of IDE controllers, depends on the board you buy. You could also buy a raid controller card as well. Promise makes nice ones and they generally perform better than on board RAID because they don't require the CPU overhead.

Hope this helps.
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SO I should just stick with what I have and not get a SATA drive? Maybe PATA to SATA converters, do those actually help? And as far as running out of IDE ports, not an issue at all there. Th board has 2 regular IDE and 2 RAID 1/0 i think by sillicon image, so thats 8 deviced right there, plus i have an ATA133 PCI card that has 2 IDE channels, so in all I could have 12 IDE devices (4 RAID) if I really wanted to..

Also, how much would the raid array due with day to day windows operations. I really would rather not make the raid my bootable windows drive, because I have an 80GB WD drive I dont trust for shit. I can reinstall games if it craps out, but I dont want to have to deal with reinstalling my OS.
 
Then doesn't look like you need any extra drives unless you got money burning a hole in your pocket. If that's the case, buy two SATA WD Raptors spinning at 10k rpm and use those for your SATA OS/proggie drive running on Raid Zero. That's what I do.
 
dabiggoober said:
Then doesn't look like you need any extra drives unless you got money burning a hole in your pocket. If that's the case, buy two SATA WD Raptors spinning at 10k rpm and use those for your SATA OS/proggie drive running on Raid Zero. That's what I do.
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Heh....a 72GB Raptor is what, $200? And you never answer my question, how will raid help just basic operations, id rather keep my OS off the array unless I will see a huge difference. Otherwise...is it possable to do like a raid 1 + 0 with 3 80GB drives where I could have 2 drives in raid 0 and the 3rd drive mirroring just the 80gig with windows on it?
 
Viper87227 said:
Heh....a 72GB Raptor is what, $200? And you never answer my question, how will raid help just basic operations, id rather keep my OS off the array unless I will see a huge difference. Otherwise...is it possable to do like a raid 1 + 0 with 3 80GB drives where I could have 2 drives in raid 0 and the 3rd drive mirroring just the 80gig with windows on it?
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I did answer your question....
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Your machine will boot faster and load games/maps etc...quicker when using a Raid zero. That array will improve the performance of any program that use a large amount of swap space (graphics, photoshop, etc..)
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74 gb raptor is 170 now. You can get two 37's for 200.
 
dabiggoober said:
That's funny. I have that same board sitting in my closet. I prefer the one in my sig file because the overclocking options are better. The other board is nice too though.
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Yeah, it was either this or an NF7-S..but since I dont know much about OCing and will probably only do a small overclock, I decided I would rather have teh added features of the other board.
 
I have 2 Raptors that will be going in a RAID 0, then I have a 80 GB SATA I am putting in, and a regular 13 GB IDE on IDE 0.
Rigth now the 13 GB has all my stuff on it, and I want to copy all that stuff over to the 80 GB Seagate drive that will be going on SATA channel 1.
Then the 2 35 GB Raptors will be going on RAID 0 and I will be using that as my boot drive.
I just want to load up my system operating system and all drivers etc, on my 80 GB SATA drive so that in case my RAID 0 goes down, I will have a bootable system. After I copy the 13 GB on the SATA 80 GB, I will use the 13 GB IDE drive for backup of critical files and documents I don't want to loose.
 
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