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IC7-Max 3 quick question

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Jigster2383

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I plan on upgrading my rig and maxing out my mobo in a month or 2 and gonna keep it for atleast another year or so. Gonna probably ebay my cpu and vid card on ebay.

I have a 2.4C northwood and a sapphire 9500 pro on my abit IC7 Max 3 and looking at the 3.2 ranges since the prices have come down alot and are pretty respectable. My manual says northwood only but has anyone tried any prescotts?
Would it be worth that extra 512 cache ??
I don't plan on overclocking. More concerened with a better quality processor.

According to newegg the prescotts are a little cheaper, I have a thermalright sp94 heatsink and a vantec tornado all in a aspire turbocase so heat is not an issue. I am only considering a prescott because I would be possibly getting more performance at a cheaper price perspective, also would that extra 512 cache justify that small price difference over dependability and compatibility? I have been hearing that prescotts are not to much to consider over northwoods from looking at anandtech and toms.
 
Yes, a pressy will work on that board.
Since you dont plan on overclocking, a prescott would be your best choice, just due to price.
A northwood would be slightly faster at stock speeds than a pressy, but not enough to spend the extra $
 
I have my 2.8C@3.6 installed in my Max3 and my 3.0E that also does 3.6 is sitting on the table right now. As for everyday use, I really can't tell the difference between the two but when running benchmarks, the northwood smokes the pressy, so I'm playing with the northwood now.
 
Slammin said:
I have my 2.8C@3.6 installed in my Max3 and my 3.0E that also does 3.6 is sitting on the table right now. As for everyday use, I really can't tell the difference between the two but when running benchmarks, the northwood smokes the pressy, so I'm playing with the northwood now.
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Interesting..... 3.6 versus 3.6 and the northy comes out on top?

I was thinking about buying a prescott to pitt it against my northwood at high OCs
 
its a 2.8c vs. a 3.0E... which means that the NW is gonna have a higher bus speed
 
Jigster2383 said:
I plan on upgrading my rig and maxing out my mobo in a month or 2 and gonna keep it for atleast another year or so. Gonna probably ebay my cpu and vid card on ebay.

I have a 2.4C northwood and a sapphire 9500 pro on my abit IC7 Max 3 and looking at the 3.2 ranges since the prices have come down alot and are pretty respectable. My manual says northwood only but has anyone tried any prescotts?
Would it be worth that extra 512 cache ??
I don't plan on overclocking. More concerened with a better quality processor.

According to newegg the prescotts are a little cheaper, I have a thermalright sp94 heatsink and a vantec tornado all in a aspire turbocase so heat is not an issue. I am only considering a prescott because I would be possibly getting more performance at a cheaper price perspective, also would that extra 512 cache justify that small price difference over dependability and compatibility? I have been hearing that prescotts are not to much to consider over northwoods from looking at anandtech and toms.
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Have you tried overclocking your 2.4C northwood chip? It can probably overclock pretty well.

-MN Scout



 
I have to get the processor oem so I don't get that awesome intel stock heatsink and fan :)

Anyone know why the prescotts are cheaper with that extra 512 cache?? I don't see a how more cache on processor would mean a cheaper price. They both are socket 478 they both do HT and they both come in 533 and 800 mghz flavors??

Seems to me that the northwoords are a better reliable better dependable better quality or they skimmped out in the manufacturing so the availability isn't there and there tougher to get.

As far as overclocking I am not a huge fan. I work my O_O off in a sweaty ass kitchen not to have my computer be the next ingrediant. More concerned with rock solid reliability.

I did one night for the hell of if decided to see my overclocking potential. I got all the apps and spent a good 8 hours of testing. I slowed my memory to slowest and got my bumping on. I got up to 3.2 without touching no voltages and the difference was like 30 points in 3dmark so I just decided to put it back to stock as I wouldn't be gaining any real world performance. I can wait the extra 10 minutes when decoding something and as long as my EverCrack plays smooth then I could careless.


I have the 3d mark scores saved is it possible to just view those withought retesting them? I think I saw an program that could do that on major geeks gonna go get that.

Thanks all for you input !
 
O and thanks txstangguy and Slammin. I am gonna stick with a northwood and wait for a good deal to arise with an oem processor. If I can't get a oem northwood in 1 or 2 months then I will have to stick with prescott. Also the difference in price on the retail units are like about 50 55 bucks between the 2 and the prescotts I have seen in oem so far the prescott has a tiny edge right now. Thanks for your reply's
 
pressys are cheaper ( i think) cause they run hotter, they are slightly slower clock for clock than northwoods, and most importanty, intel is trying to phase northwood out, so they are priced lower to attract people to prescott.
 
its kinda funny how more means less :) I guess Intel under anticipated the springdale chipset implemented a heat burner and more cached processor and everyone got one and overclocked there prescotts rather than hunt for a classy rock cored canterwood with a northwood :). Lets phaze out something great instead of keeping it alive :)

It doesn't matter in the end it was all engineered 4 years ago :)

Technology a movie in the making

just some thoughts
 
I agree with the suggestion above. Overclock your 2.4C and see how high you can get. I got my 2.4C running at 3.0GHz at stock core voltage. Stable and loving it.
 
Chelica I did that I got to 3.2 easily but the difference was 30 to maybe 50 points in 3d mark vs my stock setup and running my memory at spec low latency at 2252. I was running my memmory at the slowest in the bios to see my maximum threshold cpu overclock. I have corsair XmS 3200 512X2 Low latency. I could of pushed the memory more but what for an extra 30 more points for what??? My evercrack plays smooth enough I am not gonna be benefiting and real world peformance to justfy that.

As long as my evercrack doesn't turn into everneverlasting then I am good to go. Half life and doom 3 is just money being burnt to me that I can't afford. I am thinking long term b4 the time comes my computer becomes one of the hp wally world comps when I have to shell out another 1500 bucks on a nasty system to play everneverland.
 
well if you only see minimal increases in increasing the clock speed, i cant imagne you will see anything worthwhile by getting a new processor. the only thing you are doing in buying a new chip is getting a higher multiplier, which, in the end, would acutaly be slower than an overclocked 2.4C. 250x12 is 3ghz just the same as 200x15 is, but that 1ghz FSB is gonna net you higher results.

if you dont notice any difference when overclocking, dont get a new chip. youll regret spending money you didnt have too.
 
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