I have been looking at both the ibook and the mini as a starter mac for me to learn on. I have been checking out he refurbished ones, has anyone ever had a refurb mac item? I assum the only real flaws will probobly be cosmetic. Anyway, which one would you guys recommend? If i buy the mini, i have to buy a monitor now as well because i just gave my brother my old pc. If i buy a monitor must it have a dvi connection? Thanks in advance guys.