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I tunes questions

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I wasnt sure if this would go under Audio or Apple, so I'll put it in both.

- Is it possible to listen to Itunes songs outside of Itunes? I try to play them in f00bar but it gives me some error. I attempted to use a program call jhymn, but it doesnt seem to work.

- How long is it suposed to take for the songs to download? It takes like 4 hours for mine to become playable after I click the buy button. It just stays grayed out and says donwloading when I try to play it. I assume its my schools firewall being evil, but figured I'd ask to be sure.
 
I have no experience at all, but it would seem from the site, you are able to burn the songs into audio CDs.

I see no reason you couldn't rip those CDs.
 
From my experience with Itunes (which is vague) the songs you buy & download will not become available to play until Itunes (Apple) sends you the "receipt for your purchase".

That's what it appears to be, from my experience.. Dont forget to "keep your receipts!!!"
 
Othersider said:
I have no experience at all, but it would seem from the site, you are able to burn the songs into audio CDs.

I see no reason you couldn't rip those CDs.
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You mean besides the degredation in sound quality from double lossy compression?
 
GodsMadClown said:
You mean besides the degredation in sound quality from double lossy compression?
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if it comes from 192kbps AAC to 1411kbps AIFF there's not going to be any loss, and if you burn as MP3 at a higher bitrate say 224kbps there's not going to be any loss because it's data
 
illgiveumorality said:
if it comes from 192kbps AAC to 1411kbps AIFF there's not going to be any loss, and if you burn as MP3 at a higher bitrate say 224kbps there's not going to be any loss because it's data
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Transcoding a file from one lossy format to another is even worse than compressing the same file twice. Take a JPEG image, for example, then save it as a GIF file, then re-open it and save it as PNG; you'll end up with a garbled mess that has compression artifacts from 3 distinct ways of compressing the data.

All of this can be avoided, of course, by not buying a player that infests your songs with hair-brained DRM schemes in the first place. Why not buy one of hundreds of other players that show up as USB hard drives on any PC or Mac? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to visit a friend, plug in your player, and painlessly share a few tracks with each other?

Ipod owners will, of course, go to great lengths to justify their purchases though... So lets hear it. Why are you happy with your player and software that was designed to protect the RIAA rather than offer you any flexibility with your "purchased" music?
 
He's not talking about an iPod (which will actually show up as a firewire/usb drive), and can be loaded with any music files you have.
He's talking about songs downloaded from Apple's music store. Thats where the DRM crap comes in.
iPod does not require the music store.
 
DaSmurf said:
He's not talking about an iPod (which will actually show up as a firewire/usb drive), and can be loaded with any music files you have.
He's talking about songs downloaded from Apple's music store. Thats where the DRM crap comes in.
iPod does not require the music store.
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Oops :eek:
I totally thought I was in the "recommend me a portable mp3 player" thread... My bad. The transcoding and DRM comments still apply to iTunes though. Sorry for the other rant :p
 
SilverMK3 said:
Transcoding a file from one lossy format to another is even worse than compressing the same file twice. Take a JPEG image, for example, then save it as a GIF file, then re-open it and save it as PNG; you'll end up with a garbled mess that has compression artifacts from 3 distinct ways of compressing the data.QUOTE]

Erm, no. PNG = lossless http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/

But, your point is well made.
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thanks for the help guys, it turns out that jhymn program did work but was putting the mp3 files it made in some out of the way directory.
 
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