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i need a new cooling solution

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Boozer

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alright, well im sitting here in my room. its about 120F in this damn house. i have watercooling, but its just not enough. i was playing BF2 and things just got too hot. my computer crashed and looked at cpu temp. it was 150F, and my ram was hot enough to fry an egg. i couldnt keep my finger on them.

so now, what im looking into is going all out on a custom watercooled computer. i have enough experience to put one together, but i dont have experience on what to get. so far i have these parts.

Aquatube Water Reservoir and the face plate
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aqcoaqwaresi.html

i want a small radiator. or something that will fit inside my case. i have a PC-75B but i think im changing case to a LL V1000B or a V2000B. something like this

Black Ice Pro 120.1 - Single 120mm fan
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/blicepro12si.html

as for a water pump.... im lost. id like to stay with 1/2 inch tubing though. price range is up in the air right now also. i have a koolance water block. i believe ill need a new cpu water block, and vga block. maybe a chipset block. ummmm, thats all i can think of right now. i dont know what else i will need besides tubing, but that will come later. im just asking for advice at this point. thanks a bunch for your help
 
Boozer said:
alright, well im sitting here in my room. its about 120F in this damn house. i have watercooling, but its just not enough. i was playing BF2 and things just got too hot. my computer crashed and looked at cpu temp. it was 150F, and my ram was hot enough to fry and egg. i couldnt keep my finger on them.

so now, what im looking into is going all out on a custom watercooled computer. i have enough experience to put one together, but i dont have experience on what to get. so far i have these parts.

Aquatube Water Reservoir and the face plate
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aqcoaqwaresi.html

i want a small radiator. or something that will fit inside my case. i have a PC-75B but i think im changing case to a LL V1000B or a V2000B. something like this

Black Ice Pro 120.1 - Single 120mm fan
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/blicepro12si.html

as for a water pump.... im lost. id like to stay with 1/2 inch tubing though. price range is up in the air right now also. i have a koolance water block. i believe ill need a new cpu water block, and vga block. maybe a chipset block. ummmm, thats all i can think of right now. i dont know what else i will need besides tubing, but that will come later. im just asking for advice at this point. thanks a bunch for your help
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Could you provide the details of your system?
 
its the system in my sig

AMD 64 3500+
MSI K8N Neo4 NF4 Ultra non SLI
1 Gig ram 2x512
X850XT vid card *exhaust is pointed outside the case so i may not need a water block for this thing.*
4 hard drives
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU
and a bunch of fans, a can controller, and the other basic things such as dvd/dvd burner drives, floppy drive. oo i have two hard drive coolers. i think im getting rid of them though. and thats about it. if anymore info is needed leme know.
 
You could buy new parts, or for probably the same price (especially if you look in the newspaper) you could get a window ac unit. Then you and your computer could reap the benefis.
 
i actually have an AC unit. its sitting on the other side of my bed. but my family is so busy they cannot help me put it in. and im going to be moving rooms soon. so i wouldnt get the benefit, because this is the HOTTEST room of the house, but the room im moving into is hot but not as hot. plus i wanna do this for the experience. i learn by doing hands on work.
 
Watercooling cannot get you below ambient temp. If your room is really "120F" then your watercooling won't be able to bring your system below that, and if you go AC probably nothing below 10c above that (at full load). And a single rad won't help you there. If you need serious cooling, then a double 120mm rad is just about necessary. If you REALLY don't have the room, but have the money, get a Thermochill PA160 from www.DangerDenStore.com . It will give you performance similar to a 120.2 rad, but it is $90.
 
Heh. Your room sounds like my room.

During Summer it gets really damn hot in there. But during winter, it gets cold. Hence forth the reason I upgraded to watercooling and decided to move back into my room. See, one aircooling I got good Temperatures, but on watercooling, they are wicked temperatures. So with the water being super cooled by the outside, I should have really good temps next year.
 
yeah, thats the way my room is. it gets sooooo cold during the winter, but the cpu stays at 50F *when its the coldest*

it may not get any better then the ambient temp, but it can still handle a bigger load. this exos cant do much, it can barely handle my cpu. its a great watercooling unit, but its not enough for the temperatures my computer creates. plus i want a more unit of a computer instead of a bunch of little external pieces.
 
Okay well first off you need to make some decisions on tubing size. The Aquatube will only natively go up to a 3/8" barb. IF you have to have bigger than that then you will need to look at another reservoire like the Innovatek Fass-O-Matic or have the Aquatube modded to 1/4 BSPP. I don't see you gaining a lot by going over 3/8 anyway and I use 6mm tubing on my V2000 case. I suppose I could tweak out 1-2 degrees Celsius more cooling if I went to 1/2", but I'm not trying to win speed demon prizes so 6mm works great for me. With an Aquastream pump you are getting a hell of a lot more flow than your EXOS ever produced. Think of the Aquastream as an Eheim 1046 on steroids that boosts flow up to about 1048 levels + it gives you the ability to adjust your flow. If you want over 3/8" then forget about the Aquastream.

In your case I would strongly consider the BI Pro II or if it fits better two separate BI pro's. On my V2000B I put in three BI Pro's without breathing too hard and still have room for another BI Dual 80 if I want to.

The Aquagratix 800/850 cooler works very well or you can use just a GPU like a TwinPlex or Maze waterblock with some copper ramsinks.

We can go on, but you need to know which tube size you want to do and then your choices will follow themselves.
 
hmmmm okay. i need to see the size of the tubing to know which one i want. i didnt know it was gonna be more specific. hmmm okay, well i was gonna mount the reservoir in the aquabay, because i liked the look and i thought it would give me enough water flow with the size of the hose it gives me *if the tubing is the size i have in my mind*. i think this is what i will need for the fittings Plug & Cool Bent for use with 6mm ID x 8mm OD AC Tubing (at 90 deg angle) (needed if this reservoir is to be mounting in an Aquabay)... so 6mm ID x 8mm? is that okay?

i was thinking about putting one on my video card. but i would just hate voiding the warranty on it. its one of the things i dont keep that long. i just want to be able to sell it even if the warranty is gone u know? ill still be able to but i probably wont get much... ahh i duno. okay yeah ill throw in a GPU cooler. but i think ill get a smaller block with some ram sinks.

thank you for your help. hmmm i think ill think about this a lil more. im really thinking about that BI Pro II. i just wanna make the right decision you know?
 
uhm so is there anywhere else you can buy a thermochill rad from? single or double's only?
 
yeah im gonna go with the BI Pro 2. no more small speedy fans, gonna go for the slower rpm's. im also getting rid of two hard drives. i have a ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe and a 3.0Ghz P4 laying around with 512 of ram and a 5600. so i should have more room to put more ish. im gonna stick with two hard drives. raptor and a 200gig, and putting my raid setup in the P4.

so my question is this. i think im going to put my hard drives in the floppy drive bay areas. i dont think i will need my fan controller there anymore. i wont have any more fans. and this is the last area i can put my two hard drives. but would it be of any benefit to put hard drive coolers on these puppies? i may be able to get away with getting some dvd rom drive bay coolers. i think that would work. but things would get a bit crowded. im gonna take a pic and show the possible setups. again thanks for all your help.
 
okay heres ma computer and what i think i wanna do with the setup
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Booz%20comp%20front.jpg


thats my plan. i dont know if it will work. i showed where the hard drives may be, just to see if they are water cooling worthy. most of the PSU cables wont be there. because im getting rid of the hard drives, fan controller and floppy drive. along with those hard drive coolers.
 
heres another idea
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i can either put a big 120 fan on top or i can use the 80's on the front of the case. but the pump will have to be else where. either on the back of the reservoir *only if i use a certain pump that can mount on the back of the reservoir* or be right next to the radiator for the 80s. or i can use both the 120's and 80's reservoir's. it would take out the hidden factor of some of the components. i didnt want them to be seen much. i know they will be. its all up in the air. just thinking. :rolleyes:

oh yeah and there would only be one pump. just put two pumps in the pic to give an idea on where they can maybe go
 
Well actually the DDC pump has been known to fit on the back of the AquaBay as well if that helps any. :) Also if you use the PC-75B you could easily fit in a Airplex Evo 360 or BI Pro III and have room to put the Aquatube in the top of the case as well. :) You could also mount your pump right next to the MB on the area that your cables are covering right now, just to the right of the ram and HD connectors.

If you want, a good alternative is to use 8mm ID tubing.
 
With a case that large, you can pretty much install whatever you want for a radiator (2 or 3 120mm fans at a minimum. If you want to use the DDC pump, it will fit in your unused floppy bays, there are brackets for a direct mount on the net. And if you want you could just use the rez/pump compo and mount it in a 5.25 bay............... :eek: Lots of options out there, and like I said, with a case as large as yours, you can do pretty much what you want, room shouldn't be a problem.
 
hmmmm i c i c. i think im gonna stick with BI Pro II. just to keep it small for now. it should be sufficient enough.
 
BI Pro II is a super choice................. :eek: Not as good as a heater core, but a heck of a lot easier to install................. :D
 
apparently my limit is about 500 bucks. SO! heres what ive come up with. a lot of people have PMed me and i kinda got pushed towards these parts

AC Aquatube Water Reservoir - Black - $64.95
BI Pro II 120mm - $59.95
AC Aquastream Modified Eheim 1046 Pump - $114.95
AC Cuplex Pro CPU Water Block - $69.65
AC Aquagrati X800/850 VGA Water Block - $89.95
AC Aquabay for Aquatube - $34.95 this is with the black face place so add $16.95
AC Airplex Radiator MP 120mm Fans - 24.95
Thermaltake Big Water UV Sensitive Water Cooling Coolant - $13.95

now i dont think i left anything out. i do need help with tubing, i didnt discuss that with anybody. not sure what kind of tubing to get. its 6mmID x 8mm, im a noob at this. i looked at the site and there is no 6mm x 8mm.. what is the size really? do i need any extra fittings? fittings to attach the hoses to ANYTHING? ummmm oh yeah, will this coolant work?



thank you everybody for your help!

edit: o ya forgot 2x120mm fans
 
Bevous said:
BI Pro II is a super choice................. :eek: Not as good as a heater core, but a heck of a lot easier to install................. :D
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whats the difference between the BI Pro and a Heater Core?
 
teh tuubing?

http://sharkacomputers.com/aqcoplcotucl.html

AC brand, if there is better then leme know. wait, will i need to up the size of the tubing so it fits the fittings of the parts? because the parts themselfs are the same size... unless they make it to fit? ahh sorry just wondering, i wanna get it right the first time. thanks again
 
i feal you on the heat my pc is runnig at 28-33C right now (33C under load)
(i have no AC and live in huntington beach where its 85-90 in my room)
I am using all aqua cumputer items with 3/8" id tygon with a csystems pump and BIP 120.3 and 120.1 ( the 120.1 is not installed yet and will be for the gfx and nbrg )
A also went with 3/8 barbs and 3/8 compression fittings because i do not like the john-gussit style and fear water leaking so everything is clamped down.

if you want to save moeny don't get the larger gfx cooler, get the twinplex and run ram sinks

my setup is a pc-2000s with a dfi ultra d, a64 3000, x800xl(still air cooled as the pumps i ordered are not here yet to run the second loop)
 
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