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I HATE w/c

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IAmSpoli

Limp Gawd
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I set up my DD w/c system last night, filled it with MCT5 and thought everything to be dandy. I had already leak tested it for WAY more than 24 hours. I did a clean format of the HD and installed windows. I left the baby on overnight just for the hell of it. at 9:00am, I awke up to an obnoxious sound, something wasn't right. I got up to check and stepped in a puddle of CRAP! MCT5...The tube where the liquid was being sucked into the pump crapped out. The clamp broke, or slid, or did something not good. So. The MCT5 went everywhere. I finally took the system apart because it was f`d up and took, yet again, ANOTHER shower in MCT5 which leaked on my leg. all over my leg. I'm in class right now and I have this very odd, very nasty smell to me.

Now, what I'm thinking is straight up selling the watercooling rig for a smaller fitted one, shipped in from germany. My roomate did it, and it is one sweet ass setup.

I'm just sick of having so many damn computer problems. I'm getting pissed off.

I haven't even gotten the w/c to cool an actual system...shit has just been breaking..

Should I stay the course or go back to air without even trying...I just feel so helpless in my quest to further my understanding of all computer aspects....

Anyone get the same problem ever?

Luckily, there was NO damage to any hardware, because of the non-conductive mct5.

Next time I won't get so lucky, becasue I'll be pusing distilled water
 
i use worm clamps and tighten them until it digs into the hose slightly, as well as my hoses fit so tight over the barbs that i think the barb will get ripped out before the hose comes off even without clamps... it took maybe a whole minute of struggling per barb to get the hose on
 
That is why you should have bought Thermaltake BIG Water SE and relaxed. It comes with the nicest setup, and every thing you need for water cooling.
 
sorry to hear that
iam using 10/8mm quick fittings, only leak teat for 20sec, cant even wait til the bubble is gone and i just turn it on, never had any problem
 
im with ryuji, invest in some worm clamps. I also like the fact that im using 7/16 over 1/2 barbs. I usually have to dip the tubing in boiling water to get them on. If I were you, I wouldnt give up, just get some worm clamps!
 
TheToE! said:
im with ryuji, invest in some worm clamps. I also like the fact that im using 7/16 over 1/2 barbs. I usually have to dip the tubing in boiling water to get them on. If I were you, I wouldnt give up, just get some worm clamps!
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I second this. Worm clamps are the best.

What type of clamps did you use when your tubing came loose? They must have sucked...
 
yeah, clamp those bitches!! I have to cut a 1/4" off the end of my hose each time i switch something around cause I tighten my clamps so hard they really bite in to the hose.
 
I don't even know what clamps I used. They came with the kit I bought from someone on [H]. I'm going to sell it though for a small dent in what I paid, but I'm thinking of the Innovatek H20 XXS kit. Looks sweet.
 
sorry to hear your bad luck
i leak test for 72 hours and everytime i get a new pump i test it for 120 hours before i even build the loop
call me overkill but i have had 2 pumps fail but no leaks so far i use zip ties to secure my hoses

i love my w/c tho
 
annaconda said:
That is why you should have bought Thermaltake BIG Water SE and relaxed. It comes with the nicest setup, and every thing you need for water cooling.
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I would agree that fittings on entry level kits seem more reliable, but they're also a bit more flow restrictive by their design. And the experiences of many [H] members has shown the Bigwater SE pump does not need any more resistance. And you're not exactly getting the performance you would expect from WCing, but entry level WCing is always that way...

I'm sure by now, everyone will agree that MCT-5 is well worth the cost to have the piece of mind. And contrary to belief, it actually performs better than distilled (under load).
 
I put the kit for sale. I'm sick of it. I'm going to research some w/c kits. I'll probably pay out the ass for the innovatek which I hear is superb, but the TT seems like a good deal. I'm looking for a reduction in temps to o/c better
 
IAmSpoli said:
I put the kit for sale. I'm sick of it. I'm going to research some w/c kits. I'll probably pay out the ass for the innovatek which I hear is superb, but the TT seems like a good deal. I'm looking for a reduction in temps to o/c better
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You would be much better off buying individual components rather than a kit. The system usually costs less and will perform better.
 
DarkenReaper57 said:
You would be much better off buying individual components rather than a kit. The system usually costs less and will perform better.
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Depends on how much you actually pay for it. I got the Bigwater for $112, and have gotten some really nice performance out of it. When i got the itch to upgrade and got a good feel for watercooling i upgraded the pump and switched the rest of the system to 3/8" tubing. All in all it was a cheap, fool proof way to get into water cooling, and came with room for upgrading.
 
nigely said:
sorry to hear that
iam using 10/8mm quick fittings, only leak teat for 20sec, cant even wait til the bubble is gone and i just turn it on, never had any problem
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I agree, I am using the push fit type as well and you definately only need a few seconds for leak testing because you will either have a huge leak or none at all. After my first leak I figured out the required pressure to push in the hose into the fittings and I haven't had a problem since.
 
Oh man...I saw that leak last night. The tube was just barely hanging on the intake fitting of your pump with that clamp- i guess it slid off overnight from all that tugging on the system tubes.

How far did you OC that X300? :p
 
I got the X300 to X700 speeds. I didn't get to benchmark however...Stupid mct5 leaked
 
How exactly did you perform your leak test? did you leak test it out of the case then move it in the case? Did you leak test it in the case with the stuff hanging loose and all the equipment out?

The best way to leak test is to have your mobo, vid card, anything that you have a waterblock mounted to in the case. You have the waterblocks actually mounted to where they are going to be. The only thing you have plugged in however is the pump. Short the PSU so that the pump runs. This way your leak test is testing the exact configuration that you are going to use, if it works simply plug in the rest of your components, plug in the power and go. If you didn't leak test like this then you could have jarred something loose when installing the blocks onto your hardware.
 
J-Mag said:
I agree, I am using the push fit type as well and you definately only need a few seconds for leak testing because you will either have a huge leak or none at all. After my first leak I figured out the required pressure to push in the hose into the fittings and I haven't had a problem since.
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another good thing is, you dont need to completely drain the whole loop to install a waterblock or change something, only just changed the ati mount to 7800mount, the whole thing only took me 10-15min and now iam waiting for the bubble to go while typing this
 
TheToE! said:
im with ryuji, invest in some worm clamps. I also like the fact that im using 7/16 over 1/2 barbs. I usually have to dip the tubing in boiling water to get them on. If I were you, I wouldnt give up, just get some worm clamps!
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I'm thirding this. I also use worm clamps, and I'll never use anything else. I put them on tight and they stay tight. I just wouldn't trust plastic to keep a tight hold over for any amount of time.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I'm getting this stuff sold quickly here on [H]. I can't wait to get my new w/c setup. I'll let you guys know how it works out! Super excited.

And I did all kinds of leak tests. Out of the case, in the case, mounted, unmounted.
 
tbh.. and this is going to sound harsh (but I don't care)..

if you can't tighten up a worm clip, hose clamp or even make 100% it's working; twice and then give up citing water cooling is crap...

maybe it's you who is crap.
 
Guaranteed worm clamps would have been your best option. I bet your clamp was one of those shitty plastic one's that you squeeze until your fingers hurt? Yeah, PS, those are shit.

I used to have those in my system, but I threw them all out because they were utter crap. They were incredibly difficult to get tight enough to prevent any leaks. Where as with these worm clamps, all you have to do is tighten with a screw driver and you'll be fine.
 
J-Pepper said:
tbh.. and this is going to sound harsh (but I don't care)..

if you can't tighten up a worm clip, hose clamp or even make 100% it's working; twice and then give up citing water cooling is crap...

maybe it's you who is crap.
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In fact this does sound harsh. You don't know what I went through, and you don't know how it happened. Your just a big crap head.

Anyway, if you read my post's you'd know i'm not giving shit up. I'm simply moving on up to a better w/c system. Innovatek XXS..Plz don't gimmie shia bia, cuz ill spia in your fia
 
IAmSpoli said:
In fact this does sound harsh. You don't know what I went through, and you don't know how it happened. Your just a big crap head.

Anyway, if you read my post's you'd know i'm not giving shit up. I'm simply moving on up to a better w/c system. Innovatek XXS..Plz don't gimmie shia bia, cuz ill spia in your fia
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Wow, what an immature post. You screwed up. It happens.
 
i dont see that kit beating a good DD setup or a storm, can i suggest the apex instead?
 
IAmSpoli said:
Plz don't gimmie shia bia, cuz ill spia in your fia
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Erm.. maybe i'm too old (or have to much common sense to go to school and learn to read and write) to understand what that means? :confused:
 
I think he's wanting to go to a different fitting style, you know like push fit or compression...

My real question is this: Why hasn't top nurse come in to say "SEE! Hose barbs really are crap!"....
 
TehRoflcopter said:
Are you in kindergarten? Cause, I could have sworn I said something that childish to someone when I was in kindergarten.
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lmao.

IAmSpoli said:
...Plz don't gimmie shia bia, cuz ill spia in your fia
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Um, yeah. This explains your difficulty in connecting a hose and tightening a clamp properly.
 
LoL. I'm just having some fun guys. You all give me quite some laughs. I mean no disrespect, and however it may come off, I'm just having my fun, childish or not.

The reason I saw my problems happening was because this is my first ever w/c setup. It was bulky with the 1/2in tubing and large pump and I only have a mid-tower case. I saw a good deal and snatched at it, and I got overwhelmed. I had to splice the pump cord and hook it up to the relay, drill two holes in the back of my case, and I was left with little to no room. As a result of the little space to fir through inside my case, I ended up killing my video card because I mishandled trying to get it through the tubes. I just got really angry because I never expected something to be so difficult.

I don't blame the bulkiness however because I know I was totally at fault for all the problems that occured. I'm just lucky nothing shorted thanks to the MCT-5

I should have came here in the first place to ask for some good newbit setup kits. I can't afford the XXS Premium so I'm just going to start with the Vantec Stingray. I've seen some reviews and not one had an effective negative argument. All signs point to yes. I understand it may be lower end, but I've realized that I need to start small. I had clamping problems, which led to a leak, and in fact, I do want to go to easier 3/8 brackets. tubing is smaller. I'll have to keep the pump/resevior outta the case which i don't mind to much becasue g-d forbid I had another leak at the pump (however unlikely) i'd feel safe knowing it can't go and attack my precious parts.


Apologies for the childish remarks, I didn't realize who my audience was. I'm used to amdmb :p
 
Punx_Clever said:
I think he's wanting to go to a different fitting style, you know like push fit or compression...

My real question is this: Why hasn't top nurse come in to say "SEE! Hose barbs really are crap!"....
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Been having fun with FF. I have been laughing at all the silly comments and was waiting for one of you guys to say it. :D In this instance I think it was operator ignorance.

However, push-fits do not have this problem as they either leak the very first time you put the juice to them or they don't leak. Providing you push the tubes in till they stop = no leak. Push release button and pull it apart again. Don't have to cut the tube back everytime you want to reconnect them. So let's have push-fits for everybody. :p
 
sorry to hear about the mess i have never leak tested anything in my system, i know it will catch up to me, but worse to worse it will be a good excuse to get the latest most expensive hardware in one order, without the wife getting mad....anywoh i always do it right the first time, and double check....

many accidents happens when we get over confident and compliance sets in....

go 3/8s if you like it better for routing etc....just remeber that your problems wasnt tube size, and hence it could happen again....an as usual what can go wrong, WILL GO WRONG....

good luck
 
I knew it was just a matter of time before TN showed her face in here...

Theres just something I like about torque'n down on worm clamps, call it piece of mind, whatever.. I think with either fitting, if you just take your time to make sure you did it right, you wont have leaks.
 
i leak tested mine for a week with 1/4 inch tubing. what size tubing did you use? i didnt get a kit. mine came in the case so it was much easier to deal with and for me it was cheaper. try that.
 
ryuji said:
i use worm clamps and tighten them until it digs into the hose slightly, as well as my hoses fit so tight over the barbs that i think the barb will get ripped out before the hose comes off even without clamps... it took maybe a whole minute of struggling per barb to get the hose on
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I did the same thing with my setup, I use 1/2" barbs and 3/8" hose. A few minutes later and alot of bloody knuckles (from the hose slipping off the barb) I get them on, they are so tight that hose clamps arent needed (although I use them to be safe).

Hair dryers work well for heathing the hose up to help slip it over the barb.

My $.02
 
Sounds to me like you used the wrong size hose or something. Whenever I hook up new hose it slides so tight over the barb that pulling it off requires some real hand strength. Odd that this didnt happen with your leak test though.


Oh and if you're frustrated just go back to air and be done with it.
 
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