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I got display problems running doom3 (with pix)

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bluesdoggy

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Specs are sigged.... i was getting random reboots and hangs when i was playing doom3 on ultra mode with an antec 430watt psu... figured the psu was maxing out (i've got quite a few toys in this system after all, and the memory is running at 2-2-5-2 so i'm pumping the ddr voltage at around 2.75 or so ) so i threw in a neo 480. When i tried running the game again, i didn't get any lock ups, but i got the following corruption after i loaded a save game. I quit the program but the corruption stuck around until i rebooted. Not sure what the problem is at this point, although it seems to be video card related at least in part. Vid isn't OC'd, actually, nothing is oc'd.. running stock (the memory is low latency corsair, spec'd and tested at those timings).

Help?

This one is a slightly cropped illustration of the degredation on title screen
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Close up of ingame pic
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Looks like GPU memory problems to me - with core problems you normally see white specs whereas with memory its more like a checkerboard pattern. Try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them.
 
hey try plugging BOTH power supplies in at the same time, but only use one of them to power your graphics card, and the other to power all your other stuff.

then try doom3 and see if its still corrupt. if its fixed, then you obviously have terrible power supplies.
 
Oh also... i moved around a bit in the game just to see if this would stop, and the 5.1 surround sound just cut out...and didn't come back..sound worked outside of game..but the 5.1 was just there..then not there after about 5 minutes of playing.
 
sativa said:
hey try plugging BOTH power supplies in at the same time, but only use one of them to power your graphics card, and the other to power all your other stuff.

then try doom3 and see if its still corrupt. if its fixed, then you obviously have terrible power supplies.
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I kind of have a hard time believeing i'd draw two crap antec psu's...no one's luck is that bad... all voltages look fine through monitoring.
 
sativa said:
also, does this happen in other games?
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I am not a big gamer... so far only things i've tried on this card have been doom3 and farcry...farcry ran fine, although there was some funky texturing or shadow problems, which apparently are issues with the game and nvidia's driver.
 
bluesdoggy said:
I kind of have a hard time believeing i'd draw two crap antec psu's...no one's luck is that bad... all voltages look fine through monitoring.
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hey there's no point in NOT trying it. go for it and tell us how it goes.
 
id have to agree with trinket here. though if it doesnt happen with other games then that would rule that one out . Really dont think it has squat to do with the psu those cards will run on a quality 350 w and you said both are antec perhaps it all boils down to a bad driver or perhaps a conflict with another device
 
well i'm pretty sure the 430 watt was getting stressed too much..the symptoms were right and current being drawn was pretty harsh... 5 drives plus a 6800 ultra is pretty good load i guess...

i'm going to try reinstalling the game...and reinstalling display drivers and see what that does.
 
bluesdoggy said:
well i'm pretty sure the 430 watt was getting stressed too much..the symptoms were right and current being drawn was pretty harsh... 5 drives plus a 6800 ultra is pretty good load i guess...

i'm going to try reinstalling the game...and reinstalling display drivers and see what that does.
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i dont know what reinstalling the game would do to fix a PS issue.

try using one of the PSes for JUST THE VIDEO CARD and your other PS for your system.
 
Have you tried to underclock the memory to see if this problem goes away?
 
I really don't think this is a ps issue... the voltage/amp levels are all fine when the game is running (checked via mobo monitor and my own multimeter)... also it only happens in this game... i just noticed that one of the saved games is corrupted..so tht seems to point to some of the files getting screwy with the hard reboots from my previous psu issue. I'm doing a heavy loop of 3dmark 2k3 at 1280x1024 4xaa, 4xas to make sure it isn't a stability issue on the pc.
 
shake your cable on your video card when it starts to do that my aiw 9800 pro kinda does somethign liek that and wiggling my cable makes it better
 
under clocked my memory...3d mark bluescreened out about 15 loops in...gonna try again now. went down to 2-3-5-2 settings.
 
Your memory timings will not effect the graphic problems you are experiancing, but can be the cause of the BSOD. Try underclocking both memory and core by 10 percent and see if that helps.
 
complex said:
shake your cable on your video card when it starts to do that my aiw 9800 pro kinda does somethign liek that and wiggling my cable makes it better
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Wiggling your cable...heh...I was going to say something juvenile, but thought better of it :p

bluesdoggy, did you reinstall your drivers? Use driver cleaner to get old bits removed completely. I see you're running an IC7-G mobo... Be sure that u use the INTEL EXTREEME graphics option to remove the intel drivers, if you have ever loaded them.

If you solve your problem, please post so we know what it was.
 
Morazl said:
not a big gamer with a 6800 ultra? are you just rich? lol
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lol.. hardly.. i got an amazingly good deal on it... i'm one of those peopple that would rather just have the best and be done with it... if i had it to do over again i'd have probally waited and gotten a bfg ... i really really hope i don't have to RMA this card... i don't want to deal with PNY's customer service.
 
i get very close to the same thing with my computer when i overclock my videocard too far. over 1.2 ghz. even though your card is not overclocked maybe the mem is not getting cooled properly. Mines a little wierder and usually will happen, and then out of no where will reboot, if i drop my overclock the problem goes away. I dont know if its the mem or the core but i would probably asume mem.
 
no offense but the fact that you haven't used the two seperate power supplies at the same time to rule out that aspect of the problem is pretty ridiculous.

use one to just the card and one for everything else. if you still get the corruption then you can rule out the power supplies.

so simple.
 
sativa said:
no offense but the fact that you haven't used the two seperate power supplies at the same time to rule out that aspect of the problem is pretty ridiculous.

use one to just the card and one for everything else. if you still get the corruption then you can rule out the power supplies.

so simple.
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quite simple... but kinda pointless since i'm sure the PSU isn't the problem. I did a hard core benchmark/stability test of my system last night and throughout it all (including a doom 3 session) the psu's voltage and current levels never budged. After letting the time demo in doom 3 run for awhile, i got that same weird distortion with the graphics and the 5.1 audio went away again... Tonight when i get back from school/work i'm going to :

1) read about / try the new nvidia bios
2) reinstall doom3
3) reinstall drivers for vid card (didn't have time to last night, had to get to bed)


And see what that does.

Speaking of the new bios, is it an official nvidia release or a 3rd party?
 
Mutalys said:
I wonder what your computer's internal temp is....
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Not too bad actually, i've got a couple of 80mm fans blowing across the HDs and then a big "smart" 120mm in the back sucking hot air out in the back.... the neo also has a huge 120 mm fan in it and that seems to have helped temps... i haven't made a scientific measurement since i put the neo in, but before that the case wasn't idling more than 8 or 10 degrees above ambient
 
just so you know, i had a similar problem with a leadtek 6800gt i just rma'd and it was in fact the memory, it gave that pattern, but more dense (couldnt make out squat) by doing as little as clicking the start menu. the memory may be just on the tip of being bad, or like what has been rumored, some ultra's are actually using overclocked 2.0 memory, which may be the problem. just wanted to throw in my input, exact same wave pattern too, but mine completely locked up and crashed windows :( rma's suck but it might be in your future...
 
Ok question, and yes i'll google just as soon as post this, but if someone here can give me some good instructions or a link i'd be appreciative. How do i flash the bios on the graphics card? I downloaded the zip with the rev 2 bios in it... but i'm assuming i also need a flash utility that will run off a boot disk or something similiar.. help?
 
Whenever such artifacts are visible, check the following things:

- temperature; the GPU and/or RAM may be overheating. Easiest way to check: remove side panel and point a big fan at the videocard.

- screwy drivers; remove current drivers completely, then install latest drivers. If the problem still occurs, try older drivers.

- physical damage; may be visible or invisible. Invisible would be bad RAM or a failure in the GPU, often caused by ESD. Only visible damage can possibly be fixed (caps, etc.).
 
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